Seymour Hersh: Obama and Kamala threatened to invoke the 25th Amendment on Biden before he dropped out (1 Viewer)

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    ...It’s not surprising that the long overdue unraveling of President Joe Biden’s re-election campaign happened when it became impossible to keep his increasing impairment covered up. It was the big-time money backers of the Democratic Party who called off the game of see no evil, hear no evil, after Biden’s shocking performance in his June debate with Donald Trump. They balked at continuing to give millions of dollars to the party now that there was evidence that the president is not always there.

    ...Who in Washington didn’t know that Biden was failing? We all did, up to a point. I had learned months earlier from a federal official that those in the front rows of university events where Biden was speaking were warned not to move if the president tripped while walking to the podium. Secret Service agents were on hand to pick him up immediately. There would be no front-page photos of a college valedictorian helping the president climb to his feet.

    The American public could see Biden’s slow decline. The Journal reported that nearly three-fourths of those polled thought Biden was “too old to seek another term.” Cabinet meetings in the past few years largely disappeared or turned into rote sessions, as recorded by the C-SPAN, which faithfully televises all White House events. Biden would join the seated Cabinet heads and read from a prepared text, with each page covered with a plastic sheet. It was far from vibrant television.

    After the debate, there was mounting pressure on Biden to drop out. The White House and the president himself denied that he was suffering from anything more than a bad day, a cold, and jet lag. There were newspaper stories about Hunter Biden, the president’s convicted son, keeping by his side and warning all White House staffers that anyone who even hinted at the truth would be fired. That message quickly was leaked to the press. Soon the White House press corps suddenly discovered that they were being misled by the president’s press secretary. There were lots of tortured questions and broken hearts, but the message was the same: the president is in good health and is going to run for re-election this fall and carry on serving for four more years after he defeats Trump.

    On Monday, July 15, Biden took off on Air Force One on a campaign trip to Nevada, a tossup state that Biden won in 2020 by a little more than 30,000 votes. On Tuesday he gave the keynote address to 5,000 members of the NAACP at its annual convention. The next day, the president, apparently stricken while campaigning with a yet-to-be-revealed illness, broke from his schedule and made a police escort race to Air Force One after initially telling police they were heading to the nearest emergency room.

    A series of blog posts, local police reports, internet messages, and report in the Daily Mail disclosed further details of Biden’s trip to Las Vegas and his abrupt return home to Delaware. I went over these reports this week with a senior official in Washington who helped me fashion an account of a White House in complete disarray, culminating in the president’s withdrawal from the race. It’s a story not unlike Seven Days in May, the Cold War thriller in which a colonel played by Kirk Douglas foils a coup staged by a general played by Burt Lancaster. None of what you read below comes from an official account by the White House.

    At that point, according to Emily Goodin, a Daily Mail reporter who was in the traveling press pool, the president was “deathly pale” and Air Force One flew at maximum speed to Delaware, where the president has a weekend retreat at Rehoboth Beach. The press pool was told that Biden had COVID. Nothing more was said on Air Force One. After Biden’s return to Delaware, the White House told the public that Biden had contracted a COVID infection and would be in isolation. He was said to have upper respiratory symptoms, a runny nose, a cough, and was fatigued.

    That was the last straw for a core group of Congressional leaders, government officials and some senior Biden funders who were withholding huge amounts of committed contributions. “There was pressure on donors to come across on their pending commitments,” the official told me. “It was understood that Biden had a physical problem in Las Vegas and the family was saying no” to continued pressure from donors and senior Democrats in Congress to withdraw from the presidential campaign. Initially, the president could not be reached.

    By Saturday, July 20, former President Barack Obama was deeply involved, and there was talk that he would place a call to Biden. It was not clear whether Biden had been examined or just what happened to him in Las Vegas. “The Big Three,” the official said, referring to former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Senate Majority Leader Charles Schumer and House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, continued to be directly involved. “On Sunday morning,” the official told me, with the approval of Pelosi and Schumer, “Obama called Biden after breakfast and said, ‘Here’s the deal. We have Kamala’s approval to invoke the 25th Amendment.” The amendment provides that when the president is determined by the vice president and others to be unfit to carry out the powers and duties of his office, the vice president shall assume those duties.

    “It was clear at this point,” the official said, “that she would get the nod”—that is, the support to run for the presidency in the November election. “But Obama also made it clear,” the official said, “that he was not going to immediately endorse her. But the group had decided that her work as a prosecutor would help her deal with Trump in a debate.”

    One possible drawback, I was told, was Harris’s sometime disdain for the work of the US Intelligence Community. She is known not to be especially interested in the President’s Daily Brief, a highly classified summary of current intelligence that is prepared overnight by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence and delivered by hand to the most vital offices in Washington, including the vice president’s. The document, which includes signals intelligence, is to be read by the addressee in the presence of the delivering intelligence officer. I was told that Harris often showed little interest in reading the document and at some point asked the agency to stop delivering it to her. Now, as a presidential candidate, she is being kept up to date on all significant intelligence matters.

    A key factor in the decision to force Biden out of office by invoking the 25th Amendment was a series of increasingly negative polls on the president’s standing against Trump that had been commissioned by the funders, the official said. “The downward slope was increasing.” Polling would also be important for the vice president, I was told, and it was agreed that if the polls did not continue to show her gaining traction, other options would be considered, including an open convention. I was unable to learn if Harris was aware of such considerations or whether she intends to abide by them.

    The official, who has decades of experience in fundraising, told me that Obama emerged as the strongman throughout the negotiations. “He had an agenda and he wanted to seek it through to the end, and he wanted to have control over who would be elected.”

     
    This word salad is incomprehensible and you still make zero sense. Carry on in your fantasy world, though. I’m sure it’s comforting to you.
    Biden went from, I am going to run and beat Trump to I quit in under 12 hours. This is a fact, so what changed his mind?

    Silly I can imagine what can be and be unburdened by what has been. Which is Kimbala Paris IQ
     
    Biden went from, I am going to run and beat Trump to I quit in under 12 hours. This is a fact, so what changed his mind?

    Silly I can imagine what can be and be unburdened by what has been. Which is Kimbala Paris IQ
    You don’t know, and neither do I, for sure. But it damn sure wasn’t the threat of impeachment and you can count on that being true. What I have read is that the polling continued to go down after the debate to the point that he couldn’t ignore it any longer. But nobody knows how long he’d been thinking about it or what his reasoning was, except for what he said. He became convinced it was the right thing to do for the good of the country.

    He’s not senile. And his execution of the departure was politically brilliant. He politically outmaneuvered the GOP for his entire term. So if this is senility, what is going on in the GOP? 😄
     
    Or he rope a doped your side into wasting your convention and picking JD Vance as Trump's running mate by simply saying he wasn't dropping out.

    I believe he and the Dems planned on dropping out for weeks but they waited until after the convention was over.

    R's spent the whole time bashing a guy that isn't even running.

    Now all that is left is Project 2025 and a guy who is completely owned by Peter Thiel.
     
    You don’t know, and neither do I, for sure. But it damn sure wasn’t the threat of impeachment and you can count on that being true. What I have read is that the polling continued to go down after the debate to the point that he couldn’t ignore it any longer. But nobody knows how long he’d been thinking about it or what his reasoning was, except for what he said. He became convinced it was the right thing to do for the good of the country.

    He’s not senile. And his execution of the departure was politically brilliant. He politically outmaneuvered the GOP for his entire term. So if this is senility, what is going on in the GOP? 😄
    LOL the fact is that since you just admitted to not knowing that it could have been the threat of impeachment. See all you had to do was think to see it my way

     
    There isn’t and wasn’t a credible impeachment threat. You cannot threaten someone with something that just doesn’t exist.
    Adam Schiff, Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi all said that Biden should reconsider, and he did. You are arguing with yourself at this point, you do know that your opinion does not change reality, right? The fact is that Biden is a drop out and that this will be recorded by history
     
    ...It’s not surprising that the long overdue unraveling of President Joe Biden’s re-election campaign happened when it became impossible to keep his increasing impairment covered up. It was the big-time money backers of the Democratic Party who called off the game of see no evil, hear no evil, after Biden’s shocking performance in his June debate with Donald Trump. They balked at continuing to give millions of dollars to the party now that there was evidence that the president is not always there.

    ...Who in Washington didn’t know that Biden was failing? We all did, up to a point. I had learned months earlier from a federal official that those in the front rows of university events where Biden was speaking were warned not to move if the president tripped while walking to the podium. Secret Service agents were on hand to pick him up immediately. There would be no front-page photos of a college valedictorian helping the president climb to his feet.

    The American public could see Biden’s slow decline. The Journal reported that nearly three-fourths of those polled thought Biden was “too old to seek another term.” Cabinet meetings in the past few years largely disappeared or turned into rote sessions, as recorded by the C-SPAN, which faithfully televises all White House events. Biden would join the seated Cabinet heads and read from a prepared text, with each page covered with a plastic sheet. It was far from vibrant television.

    After the debate, there was mounting pressure on Biden to drop out. The White House and the president himself denied that he was suffering from anything more than a bad day, a cold, and jet lag. There were newspaper stories about Hunter Biden, the president’s convicted son, keeping by his side and warning all White House staffers that anyone who even hinted at the truth would be fired. That message quickly was leaked to the press. Soon the White House press corps suddenly discovered that they were being misled by the president’s press secretary. There were lots of tortured questions and broken hearts, but the message was the same: the president is in good health and is going to run for re-election this fall and carry on serving for four more years after he defeats Trump.

    On Monday, July 15, Biden took off on Air Force One on a campaign trip to Nevada, a tossup state that Biden won in 2020 by a little more than 30,000 votes. On Tuesday he gave the keynote address to 5,000 members of the NAACP at its annual convention. The next day, the president, apparently stricken while campaigning with a yet-to-be-revealed illness, broke from his schedule and made a police escort race to Air Force One after initially telling police they were heading to the nearest emergency room.

    A series of blog posts, local police reports, internet messages, and report in the Daily Mail disclosed further details of Biden’s trip to Las Vegas and his abrupt return home to Delaware. I went over these reports this week with a senior official in Washington who helped me fashion an account of a White House in complete disarray, culminating in the president’s withdrawal from the race. It’s a story not unlike Seven Days in May, the Cold War thriller in which a colonel played by Kirk Douglas foils a coup staged by a general played by Burt Lancaster. None of what you read below comes from an official account by the White House.

    At that point, according to Emily Goodin, a Daily Mail reporter who was in the traveling press pool, the president was “deathly pale” and Air Force One flew at maximum speed to Delaware, where the president has a weekend retreat at Rehoboth Beach. The press pool was told that Biden had COVID. Nothing more was said on Air Force One. After Biden’s return to Delaware, the White House told the public that Biden had contracted a COVID infection and would be in isolation. He was said to have upper respiratory symptoms, a runny nose, a cough, and was fatigued.

    That was the last straw for a core group of Congressional leaders, government officials and some senior Biden funders who were withholding huge amounts of committed contributions. “There was pressure on donors to come across on their pending commitments,” the official told me. “It was understood that Biden had a physical problem in Las Vegas and the family was saying no” to continued pressure from donors and senior Democrats in Congress to withdraw from the presidential campaign. Initially, the president could not be reached.

    By Saturday, July 20, former President Barack Obama was deeply involved, and there was talk that he would place a call to Biden. It was not clear whether Biden had been examined or just what happened to him in Las Vegas. “The Big Three,” the official said, referring to former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Senate Majority Leader Charles Schumer and House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, continued to be directly involved. “On Sunday morning,” the official told me, with the approval of Pelosi and Schumer, “Obama called Biden after breakfast and said, ‘Here’s the deal. We have Kamala’s approval to invoke the 25th Amendment.” The amendment provides that when the president is determined by the vice president and others to be unfit to carry out the powers and duties of his office, the vice president shall assume those duties.

    “It was clear at this point,” the official said, “that she would get the nod”—that is, the support to run for the presidency in the November election. “But Obama also made it clear,” the official said, “that he was not going to immediately endorse her. But the group had decided that her work as a prosecutor would help her deal with Trump in a debate.”

    One possible drawback, I was told, was Harris’s sometime disdain for the work of the US Intelligence Community. She is known not to be especially interested in the President’s Daily Brief, a highly classified summary of current intelligence that is prepared overnight by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence and delivered by hand to the most vital offices in Washington, including the vice president’s. The document, which includes signals intelligence, is to be read by the addressee in the presence of the delivering intelligence officer. I was told that Harris often showed little interest in reading the document and at some point asked the agency to stop delivering it to her. Now, as a presidential candidate, she is being kept up to date on all significant intelligence matters.

    A key factor in the decision to force Biden out of office by invoking the 25th Amendment was a series of increasingly negative polls on the president’s standing against Trump that had been commissioned by the funders, the official said. “The downward slope was increasing.” Polling would also be important for the vice president, I was told, and it was agreed that if the polls did not continue to show her gaining traction, other options would be considered, including an open convention. I was unable to learn if Harris was aware of such considerations or whether she intends to abide by them.

    The official, who has decades of experience in fundraising, told me that Obama emerged as the strongman throughout the negotiations. “He had an agenda and he wanted to seek it through to the end, and he wanted to have control over who would be elected.”


    Is that the teaser? Damn! Must be a really long article.
     
    LOL the fact is that since you just admitted to not knowing that it could have been the threat of impeachment. See all you had to do was think to see it my way


    That same doctor rated Biden as in better health than Trump a few weeks back. Kinda long, so you may want to skip to the end.
    (Yes, he's using an AI program to reduce bias. He goes on about it's accuracy.)

     
    Biden went from, I am going to run and beat Trump to I quit in under 12 hours. This is a fact, so what changed his mind?

    Silly I can imagine what can be and be unburdened by what has been. Which is Kimbala Paris IQ

    It's extremely common to say you are staying in the race right up until you drop out.

    If you guys would read some mainstream news you would have seen articles like this:


    This was 3 days before the dropout announcements. It's highly likely the decision was already made, and the details were being worked out.
     
    Biden went from, I am going to run and beat Trump to I quit in under 12 hours. This is a fact, so what changed his mind?
    Biden's top campaign advisors showed him new internal data that showed Biden likely wouldn't win and Harris likely would. So he stepped down for the good of the country instead of being selfish like Trump.

    Silly I can imagine what can be and be unburdened by what has been. Which is Kimbala Paris IQ
    Thanks for only taking 5 posts to show your true self to everyone.
     
    That same doctor rated Biden as in better health than Trump a few weeks back. Kinda long, so you may want to skip to the end.
    (Yes, he's using an AI program to reduce bias. He goes on about it's accuracy.)


    History is recording Biden as a quitter no matter how hard you stomp your little feet
     
    Deal with it they have tried the impeachment thing it failed just like the GOP is a big failure.
    Grow up kid, Nixon wasn't impeached either he quit just like Biden. Besides impeached means literally nothing as Clinton was impeached and stayed in office. So wake up

    Biden is a loser and a quitter, Trump already beat him as Biden is going home to his ice cream cone maker
     
    Grow up kid, Nixon wasn't impeached either he quit just like Biden.
    Nixon quit to avoid being impeached and removed from office by the Senate. Biden quit to make sure Trump loses.

    Trump already beat him as Biden is going home to his ice cream cone maker.
    Biden beat Trump in 2020. Biden decided to let Harris beat Trump in 2024.

    Biden may be going home to his ice cream cone maker, but Trump will be going to some form of confinement for the crimes he committed.
     
    Grow up kid, Nixon wasn't impeached either he quit just like Biden. Besides impeached means literally nothing as Clinton was impeached and stayed in office. So wake up

    Biden is a loser and a quitter, Trump already beat him as Biden is going home to his ice cream cone maker
    Typical. The rest of the country has moved on and you are still stung over Biden putting the good of the country over his own personal goals. Trump has never beaten Biden. That won’t change because you come on a message board and wave your little fists and stomp your little feet.
     
    History is recording Biden as a person who put the common good above his own desires. History is recording Trump as a person who puts his own desires ahead of of the common good.
    Actually history is recording that Biden was told that he could not beat Trump and that he must quit as he did. Look kid this is all past tense and can't be changed. Capish
     
    Typical. The rest of the country has moved on and you are still stung over Biden putting the good of the country over his own personal goals. Trump has never beaten Biden. That won’t change because you come on a message board and wave your little fists and stomp your little feet.
    Thanks for admitting that Biden quit because the USA does not need a demented president
     

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