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    This probably needs its own thread. It ties in with a lot of different R culture wars: Attacks on universities, attacks on CRT and “woke”. Classifying teachers and librarians as “groomers”. Pushing vouchers to send tax money to private, often religious, schools. Betsy DeVos was an advocate for all these policies that will weaken public education, and there are several billionaires who also want to dismantle public education. Public education may have its faults, but it is responsible for an amazing amount of upward mobility. Kids from poor areas can still get a college prep education in a public school.

    Vouchers (sometimes disguised as “school choice”) are a particular peeve of mine. Public money is diverted from poor schools to wealthy private schools, which aren’t required to offer accommodations for special needs or challenged students. Families with special needs kids are left out. Rural areas often suffer disproportionately because there are no private schools to attend, but their public schools still see the reduction in funding. Often the families who take advantage of the voucher money are upper class and the private schools simply raise tuition knowing the families are getting taxpayer money now.

    Greg Abbot is being particularly vile in this area. No surprise. Voters will have to make a statement about public education. If we want to halt the growing divide in this country between the “haves” and “have-nots”, we need to pay attention to public education.

     
    And I answered you. Clearly said I couldn’t acknowledge. So to repeat again the answer to your question is No. If you ask me again, it will still be no.
    Your answer is wrong. Neo-Nazi's do gravitate to Republicans and Republicans welcome them. I can show the same for the KKK, Aryan Brotherhood and other fascist groups if you'd like.





     
    Your answer is wrong. Neo-Nazi's do gravitate to Republicans and Republicans welcome them. I can show the same for the KKK, Aryan Brotherhood and other fascist groups if you'd like.






    Despite the overwhelming evidence, his answer to everything he doesn't like, including absolute truth's about the R's party soft spot for the Nazis, KKK and white nationalists will forever be disingenuous ignorance and denial......Quite a pattern here.....
     
    And I answered you. Clearly said I couldn’t acknowledge. So to repeat again the answer to your question is No. If you ask me again, it will still be no.

    Is that clear enough for you.

    Are you saying you don't want to accept it, or that you don't think it's real?
     
    I also believe that the charges of antisemitism by the administration has absolutely nothing about caring about antisemitism

    It’s just a convenient excuse so they can hassle universities and their protesting students
    Most importantly - their Muslim students. Their anti-Semitism is less strong than their Islamophobia.
     
    You said you agreed with a post that was making a point that all the "woke" accusations are bullshirt.

    I know and you should know that the person you responded to believes that "woke" bullshirt is part of the fascist attack on inclusion and equality for all.

    It seemed to me that you were agreeing with what they thought about the "woke" bullshirt being an example of fascism. I apparently misunderstood you, but I didn't intentionally misrepresent you.

    I may have also misunderstood what I thought @Optimus Prime's was implying. or maybe you missed what Optimus Prime
    I was responding to a specific statement in plain written English and not all the other crap you think I should know about OP. So stating I agreed to anything more than what I responded to is false and misleading. It is putting words in my mouth. It is dishonest.

    Of course if it was unintentional, you can always delete it or retract it.
     
    I was responding to a specific statement in plain written English and not all the other crap you think I should know about OP. So stating I agreed to anything more than what I responded to is false and misleading. It is putting words in my mouth. It is dishonest.

    Of course if it was unintentional, you can always delete it or retract it.

    Obviously you have difficulty reading the English language.

    Back-to-back posts. lol
     
    I can think of two legitimate reasons you can't acknowledge reality. You either don't believe it or you don't wish to confront it. Which one is it?
    If you are trying to convince me the the GOP is some kind of Neo Nazi party, the no, I do not acknowledge that and I do not agree with your assessment. But if that’s what you believe, then vote accordingly.
     
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    If you are trying to convince me the the GOP is some kind of Neo Nazi party, the no, I do acknowledge that and I do not agree with your assessment. But if that’s what you believe, then vote accordingly.

    I never said that. It is putting words in my mouth. It is dishonest.

    Of course if it was unintentional, you can always delete it or retract it.
     
    I never said that. It is putting words in my mouth. It is dishonest.

    Of course if it was unintentional, you can always delete it or retract it.
    I didn’t say you did now did I? Also notice I responded with the statement beginning with IF. A little basic English goes a long way in conversation skills.

    But since we are on the subject of what you are or are not saying, maybe you can tell us all just what you are trying to say. Let’s start there. What is the point of all these Neo Nazi questions? Care to just come out and say what you are driving at.
     
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    Well what are you trying to say CM? What is the point of all these Neo Nazi questions? Care to just come out and say what you are driving at.

    It's easy. You said this:

    I respect your opinion. I simply don’t agree that Trump and the GOP are the second coming of Hitler and the Nazi party. Most conservatives I know want limited government. That seems at odds with facism and authoritarianism and totalitarianism.

    I asked this:

    Do you at least acknowledge that Neo-Nazis are a part of the GOP?

    And you've spent two days refusing to answer. You keep shifting the goalposts and creating strawmen, but you never address this actual question.
     
    It's easy. You said this:



    I asked this:



    And you've spent two days refusing to answer. You keep shifting the goalposts and creating strawmen, but you never address this actual question.
    So what is your point? Why should I care what the Neo Nazis do or what they think or whom they vote for?

    Explain to me what relevance this question has to me?
     
    BS. Explain the relevance. I don’t give a shirt about your promises or your assurances. Been down that road with you before. It doesn’t play out.
    Come on Joe, even I a lowly woman who bears the insults of you and your compatriot on here, can figure out what the connection is. (At least I have one in mind).

    You can figure it out too.
     
    Come on Joe, even I a lowly woman who bears the insults of you and your compatriot on here, can figure out what the connection is. (At least I have one in mind).

    You can figure it out too.
    Then he can easily spell it out so there is no confusion and no accusation of putting words in other peoples mouths.
     

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