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    Almost put this in the Media Tracker thread

    Interesting read and definitely goes against the commonly heard narrative
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    Every news outlet from FOX to CNN to The New York Times to local newspapers has a story with attention-grabbing headlines like “US cities hit all-time murder records.” Fox News and Republicans have jumped on this and framed it as a “Democrat” problem. They blame it on Democrat’s “soft-on-crime” approach and have even referred to a New York District Attorney’s approach as “hug-a-thug.” Many news stories outside of Fox have also purported that police reform is responsible for this rise in murder and have pointed to cities like New York and Los Angeles.

    There is a measure of truth to these stories. The US saw an alarming 30% increase in murder in 2020. While 2021 data is not yet complete, murder was on the rise again this past year. Some “blue” cities, like Chicago, Baltimore, and Philadelphia, have seen real and persistent increases in homicides. These cities—along with others like Los Angeles, New York, and Minneapolis—are also in places with wall-to-wall media coverage and national media interest.

    But there is a large piece of the homicide story that is missing and calls into question the veracity of the right-wing obsession over homicides in Democratic cities: murder rates are far higher in Trump-voting red states than Biden-voting blue states. And sometimes, murder rates are highest in cities with Republican mayors.

    For example, Jacksonville, a city with a Republican mayor, had 128 more murders in 2020 than San Francisco, a city with a Democrat mayor, despite their comparable populations. In fact, the homicide rate in Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s San Francisco was half that of House Republican Leader Kevin McCarthy’s Bakersfield, a city with a Republican mayor that overwhelmingly voted for Trump. Yet there is barely a whisper, let alone an outcry, over the stunning levels of murders in these and other places.

    We collected 2019 and 2020 murder data from all 50 states. (Comprehensive 2021 data is not yet available.) We pulled the data from yearly crime reports released by state governments, specifically the Departments of Justice and Safety. For states that didn’t issue state crime reports, we pulled data from reputable local news sources. To allow for comparison, we calculated the state’s per capita murder rate, the number of murders per 100,000 residents, and categorized states by their presidential vote in the 2020 election, resulting in an even 25-25 split.

    We found that murder rates are, on average, 40% higher in the 25 states Donald Trump won in the last presidential election compared to those that voted for Joe Biden. In addition, murder rates in many of these red states dwarf those in blue states like New York, California, and Massachusetts. And finally, many of the states with the worst murder rates—like Mississippi, Kentucky, Alabama, South Carolina, and Arkansas—are ones that few would describe as urban. Only 2 of America’s top 100 cities in population are located in these high murder rate states. And not a single one of the top 10 murder states registers in the top 15 for population density.

    Whether one does or does not blame Republican leaders for high murder rates, it seems that Republican officeholders do a better job of blaming Democrats for lethal crime than actually reducing lethal crime.

    Trump-Voting States Account for 8 out of the 10 Highest Murder Rates in 2020.​

    If you’re tuned in to the media, you’d think murder is rocketing skyward in New York, California, Illinois. But those states don’t even crack the top ten............

    Three of the five states with the largest increase in murder rate were Trump-voting Wyoming at 91.7%, South Dakota at 69%, and Nebraska at 59.1%. These states are decidedly rural and do not conform to the chaos-in-the-city meme that has overtaken the crime debate. Biden-voting Wisconsin came in at the number three spot at 63.2% and Minnesota came in fifth at 58.1%. Out of the top ten states, six were Trump-voting states—with the additional three being Kentucky, West Virginia, and Kansas. The remaining states in the top ten were Delaware and Washington. Only one of the top ten states in murder rate increases, Delaware, was among the top twenty in population density......



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    Deflection is strong with you, no?

    The District Attorney (DA) is a constitutionally elected county official. The District Attorney is responsible for the prosecution of criminal violations of state law and county ordinances occurring within a county under California Government Code Section 26500.
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    I said underlying policy issues/the root causes of crime. I don't know why you keep bringing up the police and DA. Try to keep up.
     
    Deflection is strong with you, no?

    The District Attorney (DA) is a constitutionally elected county official. The District Attorney is responsible for the prosecution of criminal violations of state law and county ordinances occurring within a county under California Government Code Section 26500.
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    https://www.counties.org › district-at...

    District Attorney - California State Association of Counties


    You put the blame on mayors, who run cities. What you quoted in support of that is about the person that prosecutes state- and county-level crimes. You are terrible at comprehending things.
     
    You put the blame on mayors, who run cities. What you quoted in support of that is about the person that prosecutes state- and county-level crimes. You are terrible at comprehending things.
    I give examples for people to think,anyone that knows politics knows how major cities are run, for example Chicago has wards,and aldermen and women
     
    I said underlying policy issues/the root causes of crime. I don't know why you keep bringing up the police and DA. Try to keep up.
    How is it the state legislation? It's local and to analyze crime in big cities you first have to see who runs them, then the social causes of poverty and Democrat taxes ran away and continue to run away good middle class jobs to the suburbs, to other county's, out of state and overseas
     
    That's so false it's comical, what's a mayors job just to kiss baby's? Of course mayors have control of his corrupt Union workers
    Here in Boston the Boston Police Patrolmen's Association and the fire department argue with the mayor over pay all the time and have been for decades and decades. The mayor's political leaning is irrelevant. It's about budgets.
     
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    I give examples for people to think,anyone that knows politics knows how major cities are run, for example Chicago has wards,and aldermen and women

    Congratulations, you have identified the legislative structure for the city of Chicago. Your family must be proud.
     
    How is it the state legislation?
    You see, in government, the state legislators make rules and laws that govern the entire state. That includes all of the localities. So those local authorities have to follow the rules and laws of the state as long as the state doesn't try to enact laws that violate the US Constitution.

    The US Constitution was written to establish the national government of American and America's laws. I codifies the basic rights of all Americans.
    It's local and to analyze crime in big cities you first have to see who runs them,
    Sorry but this incorrect. Surprisingly though, that can be said about political parties. Right now, when you analyze the Republican party, you find that it is run by shameless hypocrites and craven cowards who worship at the alter of a known habitual liar.
    then the social causes of poverty and Democrat taxes ran away and continue to run away good middle class jobs to the suburbs, to other county's, out of state and overseas
    Wow. You can't be serious. This can't be real. Alan Funt must be hiding behind a keyboard.
     
    ……Meanwhile, Republican, largely rural states with low populations — Mississippi, Louisiana, Wyoming, Missouri, Alabama, and Alaska — had the six highest per capita rates of gun deaths.

    These states also had the highest rates of gun ownership for the same period. In Mississippi, about half of adults live in a household with a gun.

    In 2020, the per capita murder rate was 40 per cent higher in states Donald Trump won during the 2020 election, according to a recent reportfrom the centre-left thinktank Third Way.

    “Murder rates are far higher in Trump-voting red states than Biden-voting blue states. And sometimes, murder rates are highest in cities with Republican mayors,” the reports authors write. “Yet there is barely a whisper, let alone an outcry, over the stunning levels of murders in these and other places.”

    The states with the lowest rates of gun deaths — Hawai’i, Massachusetts, and New Jersey — all were Democratic and have stricter gun laws.

    Rural America, which struggled with economic challenges, mental health, and social dislocation just as much as anywhere else during the pandemic, saw nearly the same spike in homicides as cities did in 2020, with deaths rising by 25 per cent, the largest increase since CDC began tracking the figure.

    “It was like people lost their ever-lovin’ minds,” Rebecca McCoy, a prosecutor in Arkansas’s rural White County told the Wall Street Journal, of the unprecedented rise in rural violence.

    And it’s a trend that’s been a long time coming.

    Between 2008 and 2014, 21 of 33 states with sufficient gun violence data showed equal or greater gun violence in rural areas compared with large metro areas, according to an analysisfrom the John Jay College of Criminal Justice — even in favoured GOP punching bags like Californa and Illinois.

    Part of the explanation for these trends has to do with the intersection of rural gun access and mental health…….




     
    It’s hardly surprising there would be a correlation between the number of guns and murder rates. It makes perfect sense.
     
    .....Across the country, Republicans and allied groups have spent tens of millions of dollars running tens of thousands of crime-related ads over the past two months — often with racist undertones or worse.

    The Congressional Leadership Fund, the main super PAC affiliated with House GOP leadership, has emphasized crime more than any other topic but the economy in its ads.

    “Murder, shooting, stabbings, rapes, carjackings are skyrocketing. Bloodthirsty criminals are laying waste to Democrat-run cities,” Trump said at one typical rally last month. “Crime is rampant like never before.”

    Though the MAGA crowd is not one to let facts get in the way of a good attack, let’s pause the fearmongering for a moment to consider a few relevant truths:
    Violent crime is not soaring. In fact, it might be declining.

    Most violent crime is committed by White people.

    Violent crime is generally worse in Republican-run states.

    Crime did soar in 2020 during the pandemic, which also happened to be Trump’s final year in office. But in 2021, the FBI found in its annual report on crime last week, crime was stable. In fact, overall violent crime declined slightly, by 1 percent, from 2020, largely because of a 9 percent drop in robbery. Homicides increased slightly, by 4 percent.

    The numbers aren’t highly reliable because a change in data collection requirements in 2021 led fewer jurisdictions to cooperate and forced the FBI to rely more than usual on estimates. Still, the FBI findings are consistent with others.

    The Council on Criminal Justice found that homicides increased in the cities it studied by 5 percent in 2021, about the same as the FBI found. Also, year-to-date statistics from 90 big U.S. cities compiled by AH Datalytics show homicides are down about 5 percent this year.

    Those “who do the crime,” as Tuberville put it, aren’t the color the Alabamian supposes they are.

    A report last year from the Justice Department’s Bureau of Justice Statistics, using 2018 data, found that White people were offenders in 52 percent of nonfatal violent crimes overall (and 56 percent of rapes or sexual assaults) in which the victim identified the race of the offender.

    Black people were offenders in 29 percent of nonfatal violent crimes (22 percent of rapes or sexual assaults). Hispanics were offenders in 14 percent of nonfatal violent crimes.

    The proportion of Black offenders was high relative to the Black proportion of the population (likely a reflection of poverty) but not the stuff of Republican ad-makers’ crime fantasies...........

     
    interesting take

    Forget the U.S. Census divisions, which arbitrarily divide the country into a Northeast, Midwest, South and West using often meaningless state boundaries and a willful ignorance of history. The reason the U.S. has strong regional differences is because our swath of the North American continent was settled by rival colonial projects that had very little in common, often despised one another and spread without regard for today’s state boundaries.
     

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