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    So, rather than burying this subject in an already broad thread I felt this topic, and the study it is based on, deserved its own thread. A debate about whether the protests have been mostly violent or not has been had multiple times in multiple threads so when I saw this analysis it piqued my interest.

    A few key points: It characterizes the BLM movement as "an overwhelmingly peaceful movement." Most of the violent demonstrations were surrounding Confederate monuments. To this mostly non-violent movement, the government has responded violently, and disproportionately so, to BLM than other demonstrations, including a militarized federal response. The media has, also, been targeted by this violent government response. There is a high rate of non-state actor involvement in BLM demonstrations. Lastly, there is a rising number of counter-protest that turn violent. I shouldn't say lastly because there is, also, a lot of data relating to Covid too.

    The Armed Conflict Location and Event Data Project (ACLED) begin tracking BLM demonstrations since this summer, the week of George Floyd's killing. I am linking the entire study for all to read. I am highlighting excerpts I personally found interesting.


    The vast majority of demonstration events associated with the BLM movement are non-violent (see map below). In more than 93% of all demonstrations connected to the movement, demonstrators have not engaged in violence or destructive activity. Peaceful protests are reported in over 2,400 distinct locations around the country. Violent demonstrations, meanwhile, have been limited to fewer than 220 locations — under 10% of the areas that experienced peaceful protests. In many urban areas like Portland, Oregon, for example, which has seen sustained unrest since Floyd’s killing, violent demonstrations are largely confined to specific blocks, rather than dispersed throughout the city (CNN, 1 September 2020).

    Yet, despite data indicating that demonstrations associated with the BLM movement are overwhelmingly peaceful, one recent poll suggested that 42% of respondents believe “most protesters [associated with the BLM movement] are trying to incite violence or destroy property” (FiveThirtyEight, 5 June 2020). This is in line with the Civiqs tracking poll which finds that “net approval for the Black Lives Matter movement peaked back on June 3 [the week following the killing of George Floyd when riots first began to be reported] and has fallen sharply since” (USA Today, 31 August 2020; Civiqs, 29 August 2020).

    Research from the University of Washington indicates that this disparity stems from political orientation and biased media framing (Washington Post, 24 August 2020), such as disproportionate coverage of violent demonstrations (Business Insider, 11 June 2020; Poynter, 25 June 2020). Groups like the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) have documented organized disinformation campaigns aimed at spreading a “deliberate mischaracterization of groups or movements [involved in the protests], such as portraying activists who support Black Lives Matter as violent extremists or claiming that antifa is a terrorist organization coordinated or manipulated by nebulous external forces” (ADL, 2020). These disinformation campaigns may be contributing to the decline in public support for the BLM movement after the initial increase following Floyd’s killing, especially amongst the white population (USA Today, 31 August 2020; Civiqs, 30 August 2020a, 30 August 2020b). This waning support also comes as the Trump administration recently shifted its “law and order” messaging to target local Democratic Party politicians from urban areas, particularly on the campaign trail (NPR, 27 August 2020).

    Despite the fact that demonstrations associated with the BLM movement have been overwhelmingly peaceful, more than 9% — or nearly one in 10 — have been met with government intervention, compared to 3% of all other demonstrations. This also marks a general increase in intervention rates relative to this time last year. In July 2019, authorities intervened in under 2% of all demonstrations — fewer than 30 events — relative to July 2020, when they intervened in 9% of all demonstrations — or over 170 events.

    Authorities have used force — such as firing less-lethal weapons like tear gas, rubber bullets, and pepper spray or beating demonstrators with batons — in over 54% of the demonstrations in which they have engaged. This too is a significant increase relative to one year ago. In July 2019, government personnel used force in just three documented demonstrations, compared to July 2020, when they used force against demonstrators in at least 65 events. Over 5% of all events linked to the BLM movement have been met with force by authorities, compared to under 1% of all other demonstrations.

    Non-state groups are becoming more active and assertive. Since May, ACLED records over 100 events in which non-state actors engaged in demonstrations (including counter-demonstrations) — the vast majority of which were in response to demonstrations associated with the BLM movement. These non-state actors include groups and militias from both the left and right side of the political spectrum, such as Antifa, the Not forking Around Coalition, the New Mexico Civil Guard, the Patriot Front, the Proud Boys, the Boogaloo Bois, and the Ku Klux Klan, among others (see map below).3

    Between 24 May and 22 August, over 360 counter-protests were recorded around the country, accounting for nearly 5% of all demonstrations. Of these, 43 — nearly 12% — turned violent, with clashes between pro-police demonstrators and demonstrators associated with the BLM movement, for example. In July alone, ACLED records over 160 counter-protests, or more than 8% of all demonstrations. Of these, 18 turned violent. This is a significant increase relative to July 2019, when only 17 counter-protests were reported around the country, or approximately 1% of all demonstrations, and only one of these allegedly turned violent.
     
    But they do and they said. You can argue semantics but you actually know it, you just don't want to believe it.
    Don’t know it at all. Once again you pretend to know what I think. 🤦‍♀️
     
    Well, considering where we are in the public education of children, then yes, I don't want the government anywhere near 'educating' my kids. Prove they can do a better job (which was assumed until a light was shined on it because of the pandemic).

    simplest terms, the opposite of capitalism with Marxist communisms being the big evil brother of socialism.

    You make schools in the U.S. sound like Chinese re-education camps. What part of public education has you that concerned? Math? Chemistry? History?

    That last sentence, how about you elaborate because it makes absolutely no sense, unless you are just afraid of the big bad Marxist boogeyman.
     
    You make schools in the U.S. sound like Chinese re-education camps. What part of public education has you that concerned? Math? Chemistry? History?

    That last sentence, how about you elaborate because it makes absolutely no sense, unless you are just afraid of the big bad Marxist boogeyman.
    Chinese, no. They would not tolerate the woke agenda in their schools. Most societies educate in the courses you laid out. Not gender theory, critical race theory and leftist activism.
    You can see that by the amount of parents pulling their kids from the public system and going to private/homeschooling.

    Ok essentially, Marx preached anti- captialism with the end being a workers revolt followed the utopia of a society where the government sets prices/salaries, essentially providing for all, while still leaving private property and some privatization of production.
    This inherently leads to communism because no matter the intent, man craves and wants power and with that power, they want more (see Toa/Lenin to Stalin and all the other attempts at a socialist government). That power is derived by also controlling the means of production/industry.
     
    Chinese, no. They would not tolerate the woke agenda in their schools. Most societies educate in the courses you laid out. Not gender theory, critical race theory and leftist activism.
    What do you consider "leftist activism"? Where are gender theory and critical race theory taught? What's so horrible about critical race theory?

    Ok essentially, Marx preached anti- captialism with the end being a workers revolt followed the utopia of a society where the government sets prices/salaries, essentially providing for all, while still leaving private property and some privatization of production.
    This inherently leads to communism because no matter the intent, man craves and wants power and with that power, they want more (see Toa/Lenin to Stalin and all the other attempts at a socialist government). That power is derived by also controlling the means of production/industry.

    So, the first thing you need to understand, is that Das Kapital was published in the 1860s. The world looked vey different back then; it was basically a tale of the haves and the have-nots, with an almost non-existent middle class. Marx wasn't as much "anti-Capitalism" as he was pro-working class, and recognized the contradictions and fallacies of the system as it was back then.. The large middle classes that we see today in the U.S. are the result of socialist principles implemented by the U.S. government after the 2 WW's.

    Socialism does not inherently lead to Communism. That is as ridiculous a statement as to say Capitalism inherently leads to Fascism or monarchy.
     
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    You can see that by the amount of parents pulling their kids from the public system and going to private/homeschooling.

    Where's the evidence that is happening?

    According to the most recent data from the National Center for Education Statistics, public schools still attract far more students than private schools, with 50.7 million students attending public school as of 2018. Private school enrollment in the fall of 2017 was 5.7 million students, a number that is down from 6 million in 1999.

     
    https://www.springfieldnewssun.com/...y-school-students/VQGZ74RCZNGKBFKHPPHNLQQO7A/

    "The school principal told officers that a group of Black students gathered several white students on a spot of the playground “and forced them to state, ‘Black Lives Matter,’ against their will,” the report stated.

    The principal said a few of the students who tried to avoid the situation were “chased down and escorted, dragged or carried” back to the spot on the playground, and one student was punched in the head by one of the suspects, according to the report.
    The group of students also reportedly recorded the students who were forced to make the statement."


    I guess that whole slippery slope of CRT educating students that one group is the oppressor from the past/present and the other is the oppressed has arrived.
    Is this considered a hate crime?
     
    https://www.springfieldnewssun.com/...y-school-students/VQGZ74RCZNGKBFKHPPHNLQQO7A/

    "The school principal told officers that a group of Black students gathered several white students on a spot of the playground “and forced them to state, ‘Black Lives Matter,’ against their will,” the report stated.

    The principal said a few of the students who tried to avoid the situation were “chased down and escorted, dragged or carried” back to the spot on the playground, and one student was punched in the head by one of the suspects, according to the report.
    The group of students also reportedly recorded the students who were forced to make the statement."


    I guess that whole slippery slope of CRT educating students that one group is the oppressor from the past/present and the other is the oppressed has arrived.
    Is this considered a hate crime?

    Based on what we know, it seems like a hate crime to me.
     
    I guess that whole slippery slope of CRT educating students that one group is the oppressor from the past/present and the other is the oppressed has arrived.
    No. That whole thing is a something you made up and scared yourself with. It's not real.
    Is this considered a hate crime?
    Based on the information, the students were targeted because of their race so if charges are filed against the group, hate crime charges could definitely be a possibility.
     
    https://www.springfieldnewssun.com/...y-school-students/VQGZ74RCZNGKBFKHPPHNLQQO7A/

    "The school principal told officers that a group of Black students gathered several white students on a spot of the playground “and forced them to state, ‘Black Lives Matter,’ against their will,” the report stated.

    The principal said a few of the students who tried to avoid the situation were “chased down and escorted, dragged or carried” back to the spot on the playground, and one student was punched in the head by one of the suspects, according to the report.
    The group of students also reportedly recorded the students who were forced to make the statement."


    I guess that whole slippery slope of CRT educating students that one group is the oppressor from the past/present and the other is the oppressed has arrived.
    Is this considered a hate crime?

    Color me suspicious, but it seems to me like something may have happened that proceeded that incident. I'm curious what the whole story is.
     
    Color me suspicious, but it seems to me like something may have happened that proceeded that incident. I'm curious what the whole story is.
    Ok. What would justify these actions to you?
     
    Ok. What would justify these actions to you?
    I don’t think it’s trying to justify these actions. It’s trying to make a decision on whether it should be viewed as a hate crime.

    For example, if the attack was in response to some activity by the white boys who were targeted, a response to them calling the attackers names or something - it’s just a run of the mill crime. But if the white boys were targeted simply because of their race with no other mitigating factors then you could consider it a hate crime.

    You‘re pretty quick on the trigger there, though. Lol.
     
    Ok. What would justify these actions to you?

    Never said the actions where justified. I'm also not taking what was reported at face value. Something is just off with this story. Waiting to see what develops.
     
    Guess this can go here
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    Two years after an attacker shot five volunteers before a Black Lives Matter march in Portland, Oregon, killing a 60-year-old woman and leaving one of her young friends paralyzed, a new visual investigation of the attack reveals that the assailant tried to provoke a stand-your-ground situation, daring three women to fight him, before suddenly opening fire when they refused.

    The research agency Forensic Architecture collaborated with survivors on a reconstruction of the attack, analyzing helmet-camera video recorded by one of the victims, police radio traffic obtained through public records requests, and the testimony of 11 witnesses – including the volunteer armed guard who stopped the rampage by shooting and disarming the gunman.

    The accumulated evidence flatly contradicts what Portland’s police chief told the public and city council staff in the days after the attack: that the gunman, 43-year-old Ben Smith, had opened fire only after he had been confronted by “armed protesters”.


    That false characterization of the unarmed victims as aggressors, which was repeated in dozens of local and national news reports, remains uncorrected on the website of the Portland police bureau (PPB) even today, as the survivors mark the second anniversary of Smith murdering their friend, June Knightly.

    The attack took place on 19 February 2022 before a march in north-east Portland to demand justice for two young Black men killed by police officers in Minneapolis, Daunte Wright and Amir Locke.

    The shooting victims were part of a community of antifascist volunteers that formed spontaneously in 2020 to keep the racial justice protesters who filled Portland’s streets day after day safe by redirecting traffic away from marchers, a role known as “corking”, providing them with emergency medical aid and using principles of de-escalation to talk down aggrieved bystanders.

    The new evidence reveals that Smith first approached the volunteers about 30 minutes before the shooting as they were discussing the march route.

    He asked one of them, a woman who uses the nickname Deg while corking, what the protest was about and how long they planned to be there.

    When Smith returned about half an hour later, the volunteers said, he called the corkers “terrorists”, screaming a misogynistic slur and ordering them to leave. One of the women, who goes by Hank while corking, recalled Smith saying: “If I ever see you again, I’m going to shoot you in the head.”


    Footage from a helmet camera worn by another volunteer, Dajah Beck, shows that Smith appeared intent on drawing the women into a physical confrontation, daring them to “make” him leave. Beck shared her footage with police following the attack, but did not make it public until now because the raw video is graphic and distressing. “It was very obvious that he was trying to engineer a ‘stand-your-ground’ situation,” Beck said.

    When one of the corkers, Allie Bradley, refused to take the bait, Smith charged at her as if to hit her, shouting: “Do something!” the footage shows. Raising her arms to protect herself, Bradley told Smith: “I don’t want to fight with you. Just go home. Go home and have a good night.”

    A male medic who had heard the shouting arrived and tried to reason with Smith. “No laws are being broken here, friend,” the medic said. “Why don’t you just go home?”

    As Smith spun around, shouting: “fork you!” Knightly, who was tall but walked with a cane and had lost her long hair to a round of chemotherapy, stepped between him and Deg and demanded that he leave. “Push me! Do something!” Smith can be heard shouting. When Knightly spoke to him more quietly, Smith repeated: “Make me! Make me go!”

    Moments later, Smith pulled out a concealed semi-automatic pistol, clicked off the safety and shot Knightly in the mouth and Deg in the neck. He then fired at the medic, who was already diving for cover, shooting him through the hand and the side of his head. He then shot Bradley twice at close range and turned back to shoot Beck, the bullet penetrating the side of her chest.…….

     
    Guess this can go here
    =================
    Two years after an attacker shot five volunteers before a Black Lives Matter march in Portland, Oregon, killing a 60-year-old woman and leaving one of her young friends paralyzed, a new visual investigation of the attack reveals that the assailant tried to provoke a stand-your-ground situation, daring three women to fight him, before suddenly opening fire when they refused.

    The research agency Forensic Architecture collaborated with survivors on a reconstruction of the attack, analyzing helmet-camera video recorded by one of the victims, police radio traffic obtained through public records requests, and the testimony of 11 witnesses – including the volunteer armed guard who stopped the rampage by shooting and disarming the gunman.

    The accumulated evidence flatly contradicts what Portland’s police chief told the public and city council staff in the days after the attack: that the gunman, 43-year-old Ben Smith, had opened fire only after he had been confronted by “armed protesters”.


    That false characterization of the unarmed victims as aggressors, which was repeated in dozens of local and national news reports, remains uncorrected on the website of the Portland police bureau (PPB) even today, as the survivors mark the second anniversary of Smith murdering their friend, June Knightly.

    The attack took place on 19 February 2022 before a march in north-east Portland to demand justice for two young Black men killed by police officers in Minneapolis, Daunte Wright and Amir Locke.

    The shooting victims were part of a community of antifascist volunteers that formed spontaneously in 2020 to keep the racial justice protesters who filled Portland’s streets day after day safe by redirecting traffic away from marchers, a role known as “corking”, providing them with emergency medical aid and using principles of de-escalation to talk down aggrieved bystanders.

    The new evidence reveals that Smith first approached the volunteers about 30 minutes before the shooting as they were discussing the march route.

    He asked one of them, a woman who uses the nickname Deg while corking, what the protest was about and how long they planned to be there.

    When Smith returned about half an hour later, the volunteers said, he called the corkers “terrorists”, screaming a misogynistic slur and ordering them to leave. One of the women, who goes by Hank while corking, recalled Smith saying: “If I ever see you again, I’m going to shoot you in the head.”


    Footage from a helmet camera worn by another volunteer, Dajah Beck, shows that Smith appeared intent on drawing the women into a physical confrontation, daring them to “make” him leave. Beck shared her footage with police following the attack, but did not make it public until now because the raw video is graphic and distressing. “It was very obvious that he was trying to engineer a ‘stand-your-ground’ situation,” Beck said.

    When one of the corkers, Allie Bradley, refused to take the bait, Smith charged at her as if to hit her, shouting: “Do something!” the footage shows. Raising her arms to protect herself, Bradley told Smith: “I don’t want to fight with you. Just go home. Go home and have a good night.”

    A male medic who had heard the shouting arrived and tried to reason with Smith. “No laws are being broken here, friend,” the medic said. “Why don’t you just go home?”

    As Smith spun around, shouting: “fork you!” Knightly, who was tall but walked with a cane and had lost her long hair to a round of chemotherapy, stepped between him and Deg and demanded that he leave. “Push me! Do something!” Smith can be heard shouting. When Knightly spoke to him more quietly, Smith repeated: “Make me! Make me go!”

    Moments later, Smith pulled out a concealed semi-automatic pistol, clicked off the safety and shot Knightly in the mouth and Deg in the neck. He then fired at the medic, who was already diving for cover, shooting him through the hand and the side of his head. He then shot Bradley twice at close range and turned back to shoot Beck, the bullet penetrating the side of her chest.…….

    The Supreme court striking down gun restrictions combined with "stand your ground" laws will probably end up being to MAGA fascists what Félicien Kabuga and machetes were to the Hutu in Rwanda.
     
    The Supreme court striking down gun restrictions combined with "stand your ground" laws will probably end up being to MAGA fascists what Félicien Kabuga and machetes were to the Hutu in Rwanda.
    The damning thing to me is how the pigs STILL won't tell the truth.

    Portland is as liberal a city overall as you could ask for but the cops somehow remain a gang of ACAB liars.
     

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