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    So, rather than burying this subject in an already broad thread I felt this topic, and the study it is based on, deserved its own thread. A debate about whether the protests have been mostly violent or not has been had multiple times in multiple threads so when I saw this analysis it piqued my interest.

    A few key points: It characterizes the BLM movement as "an overwhelmingly peaceful movement." Most of the violent demonstrations were surrounding Confederate monuments. To this mostly non-violent movement, the government has responded violently, and disproportionately so, to BLM than other demonstrations, including a militarized federal response. The media has, also, been targeted by this violent government response. There is a high rate of non-state actor involvement in BLM demonstrations. Lastly, there is a rising number of counter-protest that turn violent. I shouldn't say lastly because there is, also, a lot of data relating to Covid too.

    The Armed Conflict Location and Event Data Project (ACLED) begin tracking BLM demonstrations since this summer, the week of George Floyd's killing. I am linking the entire study for all to read. I am highlighting excerpts I personally found interesting.


    The vast majority of demonstration events associated with the BLM movement are non-violent (see map below). In more than 93% of all demonstrations connected to the movement, demonstrators have not engaged in violence or destructive activity. Peaceful protests are reported in over 2,400 distinct locations around the country. Violent demonstrations, meanwhile, have been limited to fewer than 220 locations — under 10% of the areas that experienced peaceful protests. In many urban areas like Portland, Oregon, for example, which has seen sustained unrest since Floyd’s killing, violent demonstrations are largely confined to specific blocks, rather than dispersed throughout the city (CNN, 1 September 2020).

    Yet, despite data indicating that demonstrations associated with the BLM movement are overwhelmingly peaceful, one recent poll suggested that 42% of respondents believe “most protesters [associated with the BLM movement] are trying to incite violence or destroy property” (FiveThirtyEight, 5 June 2020). This is in line with the Civiqs tracking poll which finds that “net approval for the Black Lives Matter movement peaked back on June 3 [the week following the killing of George Floyd when riots first began to be reported] and has fallen sharply since” (USA Today, 31 August 2020; Civiqs, 29 August 2020).

    Research from the University of Washington indicates that this disparity stems from political orientation and biased media framing (Washington Post, 24 August 2020), such as disproportionate coverage of violent demonstrations (Business Insider, 11 June 2020; Poynter, 25 June 2020). Groups like the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) have documented organized disinformation campaigns aimed at spreading a “deliberate mischaracterization of groups or movements [involved in the protests], such as portraying activists who support Black Lives Matter as violent extremists or claiming that antifa is a terrorist organization coordinated or manipulated by nebulous external forces” (ADL, 2020). These disinformation campaigns may be contributing to the decline in public support for the BLM movement after the initial increase following Floyd’s killing, especially amongst the white population (USA Today, 31 August 2020; Civiqs, 30 August 2020a, 30 August 2020b). This waning support also comes as the Trump administration recently shifted its “law and order” messaging to target local Democratic Party politicians from urban areas, particularly on the campaign trail (NPR, 27 August 2020).

    Despite the fact that demonstrations associated with the BLM movement have been overwhelmingly peaceful, more than 9% — or nearly one in 10 — have been met with government intervention, compared to 3% of all other demonstrations. This also marks a general increase in intervention rates relative to this time last year. In July 2019, authorities intervened in under 2% of all demonstrations — fewer than 30 events — relative to July 2020, when they intervened in 9% of all demonstrations — or over 170 events.

    Authorities have used force — such as firing less-lethal weapons like tear gas, rubber bullets, and pepper spray or beating demonstrators with batons — in over 54% of the demonstrations in which they have engaged. This too is a significant increase relative to one year ago. In July 2019, government personnel used force in just three documented demonstrations, compared to July 2020, when they used force against demonstrators in at least 65 events. Over 5% of all events linked to the BLM movement have been met with force by authorities, compared to under 1% of all other demonstrations.

    Non-state groups are becoming more active and assertive. Since May, ACLED records over 100 events in which non-state actors engaged in demonstrations (including counter-demonstrations) — the vast majority of which were in response to demonstrations associated with the BLM movement. These non-state actors include groups and militias from both the left and right side of the political spectrum, such as Antifa, the Not forking Around Coalition, the New Mexico Civil Guard, the Patriot Front, the Proud Boys, the Boogaloo Bois, and the Ku Klux Klan, among others (see map below).3

    Between 24 May and 22 August, over 360 counter-protests were recorded around the country, accounting for nearly 5% of all demonstrations. Of these, 43 — nearly 12% — turned violent, with clashes between pro-police demonstrators and demonstrators associated with the BLM movement, for example. In July alone, ACLED records over 160 counter-protests, or more than 8% of all demonstrations. Of these, 18 turned violent. This is a significant increase relative to July 2019, when only 17 counter-protests were reported around the country, or approximately 1% of all demonstrations, and only one of these allegedly turned violent.
     
    Oh look everyone. Farb remembered a word he heard used before but has no clue of what it really means.
    And this moved along the conversation by..............

    but yeah, sick burn kiddo.
     
    I'm just asking questions.

    The exact same question you often ask when there are videos of white people being racist.
    That is very true and very fair. I was just being a smart a$$.

    Anywho, no idea but I would guess not much since the filming was coming from the BLM side, so if this guy did something, that would be posted too, but who knows. From past experiences with BLM, I would guess the guy did nothing at all besides being white and not taking orders from a mob.
     
    That is very true and very fair. I was just being a smart a$$.

    Anywho, no idea but I would guess not much since the filming was coming from the BLM side, so if this guy did something, that would be posted too, but who knows. From past experiences with BLM, I would guess the guy did nothing at all besides being white and not taking orders from a mob.
    Facts don't are about your guesses.
     
    More non-violent Marxist revolutionaries.



    Are you just throwing around scary sounding words now with full realization that they have no connection with the individual seen here?
     
    Are you just throwing around scary sounding words now with full realization that they have no connection with the individual seen here?
    Are you saying they are not BLM activists or are you saying BLM is not a Marxist revolutionaries?
    Either way, you are wrong. They are BLM and BLM is a marxist organization according to their founders.

    So which one were you wanting to argue about?
     
    They are BLM and BLM is a marxist organization according to their founders.
    This is a lie @Farb that I've seen you repeat over and over again and no matter how many times your repeat it, it will still be a lie. If you can show me that I'm wrong, I'll admit it as soon as you admit you were wrong on your previously discussed assertion. Until such time, you are lying about BLM being a Marxist organization and I strongly suggest and urge you to stop being a liar on this site.
     
    So perceived data is an acceptable form of data to use in looking at a situation?
    You’ll need to define “perceived data.”

    What you perceive something to be, without sufficient evidence, is not acceptable data, no.
     
    @Farb
    Data should only be reviewed by experts or at least academics in the field.

    In other words, not you.

    If we need help recalibrating the hot dog spinner at 7-11, we will get you
     
    This is a lie @Farb that I've seen you repeat over and over again and no matter how many times your repeat it, it will still be a lie. If you can show me that I'm wrong, I'll admit it as soon as you admit you were wrong on your previously discussed assertion. Until such time, you are lying about BLM being a Marxist organization and I strongly suggest and urge you to stop being a liar on this site.
     
    @Farb
    Data should only be reviewed by experts or at least academics in the field.

    In other words, not you.

    If we need help recalibrating the hot dog spinner at 7-11, we will get you
    So very elitist of you.
    Do you mean the 'experts' and 'academics' that tell us that men can have babies, the vaccine are effective, safe and free? I can see why you keep believing them.

    Yes, a person that repairs things in the world is far below someone like you, I am sure. We will be in touch if we need to lay to siege to a police station or attack the police.
    Until then, enjoy your soy latte. You better hurry though, Starbucks is closing a bunch of stores in Portland because of the crime problem after your wonderful idea of 'defund the police'. Maybe I should see if they need help pulling out their equipment since it will take some tools and when I was there, I didn't see a lot of men that could handle the job.
     

    This has been discussed before on here. With you specifically. One or two members of an organization don’t speak for the entire organization. BLM doesn’t promote or espouse Marxist principles. It doesn’t matter how many times you say it, it still won’t be true. That you would even think this is somehow proof of what the organization stands for, rather than looking up what the organization actually says it stands for, is just proof you are completely trolling with this “Marxist” nonsense. This is why people have no other choice but to assume you are either lying or trolling.
     
    So very elitist of you.
    Do you mean the 'experts' and 'academics' that tell us that men can have babies, the vaccine are effective, safe and free? I can see why you keep believing them.

    Yes, a person that repairs things in the world is far below someone like you, I am sure. We will be in touch if we need to lay to siege to a police station or attack the police.
    Until then, enjoy your soy latte. You better hurry though, Starbucks is closing a bunch of stores in Portland because of the crime problem after your wonderful idea of 'defund the police'. Maybe I should see if they need help pulling out their equipment since it will take some tools and when I was there, I didn't see a lot of men that could handle the job.

    I am better than you Farb, yes. Facts bear that out, not opinions.

    Now that we have that out of the way, we can you go ahead and talk to your post about Starbucks closing stores due to crime.

    First they are closing 23 nationwide and two are in Portland. Wanna guess where the other ones are? I will give you a hint, they have been in the news about it lately.

    Starbucks is closing the two locations that it says are due to worker safety. The union, which has successfully organized 10 in metro Portland was set to unionize those two as well, says it was due to stopping the union. I know how much you hate unionized working people.

    And as an aside, it is interesting you said you saw no one was building here. We are in the top of fastest growing cities and our unions are strong.

    You all hate us because we (the west coast) have succeeded wildly compared to the conservative parts of the country. liberal policies have CA almost $80 billion in surplus. Meanwhile, your state can’t afford to fill potholes without federal help.

    Your whole state is a welfare queen.
     
    This is why people have no other choice but to assume you are either lying or trolling.
    I believe both.
    If we need help recalibrating the hot dog spinner at 7-11, we will get you

    Yes, a person that repairs things in the world is far below someone like you, I am sure.
    Oh snap. I thought that was just some kind of shot at you. I had no idea you do vendor repair.
     

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