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Ohio appears to be the first state to purchase shoot houses – mobile homes designed for indoor firearms training – to better prepare public school staff “to respond to an active shooter”.

The Ohio controlling board, which helps oversee changes to the state budget, approved public safety officials’ request for $78,028 last month to purchase two shoot houses to help train public school employees that are allowed to carry firearms at work.

“Currently, we have movable canvas walls that can be configured to simulate responding to an active shooter in a school, like walking down a hallway, but there are limits,” said Jay Carey, a spokesperson for the Ohio department of public safety. “The more realistic we can make the training, the better prepared armed school staff will be to respond to an active shooter.”


Carey said the state is “looking to purchase” shoot houses because they “offer several advantages like doors and windows so armed school staff can practice opening doors and looking through windows just like they would find in a school”.

Though Ohio is still in the “early stages of procurement”, the shoot houses could be incorporated into teacher firearm training as early as this summer, Carey said.

The purchase of shoot houses is the latest in a string of wins for gun rights supporters in Ohio, who regularly and successfully seized on deadly mass shootings to loosen firearms restrictions in the state – especially inside classrooms. One of the largest expansions of Ohio gun rights came in 2022, after 19 children and two teachers were killed by a gunman at an elementary school in Uvalde, Texas. Ohio Republicans responded by lifting restrictions on school teachers, custodians and bus drivers from carrying firearms at work…….

Ohio to purchase mobile homes to train public school staff in firearms

In a first, the state has purchased shoot houses designed for indoor gun training to help school staff ‘respond to active shooter’

www.theguardian.com

Once again my state keeps demonstrating its sprint further into stupidity. Cops are supposed to be trained yet how many times do we hear that it took several cops firing a multitude of bullets to kill someone who was shooting at them. So, what happens when one of these open carry teachers accidentally kills a kid or when a kid steals the teacher’s gun and shoots somebody?

 

[MT15]

Horrible tragic situation. I hope he gets charged with murder.

Ohio man, 81, fatally shoots Uber driver, 61, after scammers target both of them, officials say

William Brock told investigators he shot Loletha Hall because he thought she was working with a man who called and threatened him and his family. Hall didn't threaten Brock and didn't have a weapon or assault him, according to the sheriff’s office and court documents.

www.nbcnews.com

When Hall arrived at the home and approached the front door, Brock confronted her with a gun and asked her who she was working for, Shultz said. He took her cellphone and prevented her from getting in her vehicle and driving away.

“When she tried to get away, he shot her once, then there was more exchange between them," Shultz said. "Mr. Brock was at some point injured to his head, and he shot Ms. Hall a second time. There was more conversation, and then he shot her a third time. Only after he shot her a third time did he then make contact with authorities to report the incident."

Hall did not threaten Brock, have a weapon or assault him, according to the sheriff's office and a complaint filed in Clark County Municipal Court. She was taken to a hospital where she died from her injuries, according to the complaint.

 

[Optimus Prime]

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Kudos to all involved getting this guy, especially to the friend who reported it
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A Maryland student has been arrested after police say he threatened to shoot up his high school and former elementary school.

Alex Ye, 18, of Rockville, is alleged to have written a chilling 129-page manifesto detailing plans to gun down his classmates at Thomas S Wootton High School, and his former elementary school.

He was arrested on 17 April and charged with threat of mass violence, a misdemeanour crime punishable by up to 10 years in jail.…..

Teenager arrested for plotting mass shooting after manifesto revealed chilling plans

Police alerted by a friend who had been given access to Google Doc on planned shooting

www.independent.co.uk

 

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Texas 7-year-old shot and killed stranger sleeping in RV after grabbing gun from glove box in grandpa’s truck, child allegedly admits years later​

7-year-old shot and killed stranger sleeping in RV, child allegedly admits years later

A now 10-year-old child suddenly confessed he fatally shot a sleeping stranger years ago, just one week before he turned 8, Texas authorities allege.

lawandcrime.com

 

[Optimus Prime]

Starting in July 2024, California will be the first state to charge an excise tax on guns and ammunition. The new tax – an 11% levy on each sale – will come on top of federal excise taxes of 10% or 11% for firearms and California’s 6% sales tax.

The National Rifle Association has characterized California’s Gun Violence Prevention and School Safety Act as an affront to the constitution. But the reaction from the gun lobby and firearms manufacturers may hint at something else: the impact the measure, which is aimed at reducing gun violence, may have on sales.

As a professor who studies the economics of violence and illicit trades at the University of San Diego’s Kroc School of Peace Studies, I think this law could have important ramifications.


One way to think about it is to compare state tax policies on firearms with those on alcohol and tobacco products. It’s not for nothing that these all appear in the name of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, also known as ATF.……..

California is imposing a new tax on guns. Will it impact sales?

Beginning July, state will become the first to charge an 11% excise tax, on top of federal and sales taxes, with an aim to reduce gun violence

www.theguardian.com

 

[DaveXA]

Starting in July 2024, California will be the first state to charge an excise tax on guns and ammunition. The new tax – an 11% levy on each sale – will come on top of federal excise taxes of 10% or 11% for firearms and California’s 6% sales tax.

The National Rifle Association has characterized California’s Gun Violence Prevention and School Safety Act as an affront to the constitution. But the reaction from the gun lobby and firearms manufacturers may hint at something else: the impact the measure, which is aimed at reducing gun violence, may have on sales.

As a professor who studies the economics of violence and illicit trades at the University of San Diego’s Kroc School of Peace Studies, I think this law could have important ramifications.


One way to think about it is to compare state tax policies on firearms with those on alcohol and tobacco products. It’s not for nothing that these all appear in the name of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, also known as ATF.……..

California is imposing a new tax on guns. Will it impact sales?

Beginning July, state will become the first to charge an 11% excise tax, on top of federal and sales taxes, with an aim to reduce gun violence

www.theguardian.com

I'm not opposed to an excise tax, but 11% feels high. If you make it too high, you'll see a lot more black market gun sales, which doesn't help anything. I'd rather a lot of legitimate sales that can be tracked to legal owners than a lot of black market sales that can't be tracked.

 

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Atlanta officer accused of killing Lyft driver allegedly said victim was ‘gay fraternity’ recruiter​

https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out...medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark

 

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When the Covid-19 pandemic hit the US, it wasn’t just a deadly virus that swept the country. It also ushered in a period of unprecedented access to firearms.

New gun ownership surged, particularly in Black, Latino and Asian American communities, alongside rising anti-Asian hate crimes, police violence and a general climate of fear. In the past, spikes in gun purchases tended to occur in conservative states, in response to changes in gun policy.

“For the first time ever,” said Paul Nestadt, a suicide researcher and co-director of the Johns Hopkins suicide prevention working group, “there were more guns bought in blue states than red states.”

The devastating ripple effects of that spike in new gun ownership are now becoming apparent in rising firearm suicide rates among children and teens over the past four years. In 2022, nearly 27,000 people died by gun suicide – the highest on record – and young people of color bore the brunt of this hike. For the first time, the gun suicide rate among Black teens surpassed that among white teens. Firearm rates rose 63% among young Latinos and 71% among young Asian Americans over the past decade and a half, the latter being the largest growth of any racial or ethnic group.


The increase is driven as much by compounding racial trauma as unfettered access to firearms, suicide researchers and community organizers say. Informed prevention and intervention strategies, they said, should focus on destigmatizing mental illness and fostering an understanding that suicide isn’t just a mental health issue but also an impulsive act of violence.…….

Behind the alarming rise in US gun suicides among youth of color

Surging gun ownership and unaddressed racial trauma have contributed to an uptick in youth firearm suicides

www.theguardian.com

 

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When the Covid-19 pandemic hit the US, it wasn’t just a deadly virus that swept the country. It also ushered in a period of unprecedented access to firearms.

New gun ownership surged, particularly in Black, Latino and Asian American communities, alongside rising anti-Asian hate crimes, police violence and a general climate of fear. In the past, spikes in gun purchases tended to occur in conservative states, in response to changes in gun policy.

“For the first time ever,” said Paul Nestadt, a suicide researcher and co-director of the Johns Hopkins suicide prevention working group, “there were more guns bought in blue states than red states.”

The devastating ripple effects of that spike in new gun ownership are now becoming apparent in rising firearm suicide rates among children and teens over the past four years. In 2022, nearly 27,000 people died by gun suicide – the highest on record – and young people of color bore the brunt of this hike. For the first time, the gun suicide rate among Black teens surpassed that among white teens. Firearm rates rose 63% among young Latinos and 71% among young Asian Americans over the past decade and a half, the latter being the largest growth of any racial or ethnic group.


The increase is driven as much by compounding racial trauma as unfettered access to firearms, suicide researchers and community organizers say. Informed prevention and intervention strategies, they said, should focus on destigmatizing mental illness and fostering an understanding that suicide isn’t just a mental health issue but also an impulsive act of violence.…….

Behind the alarming rise in US gun suicides among youth of color

Surging gun ownership and unaddressed racial trauma have contributed to an uptick in youth firearm suicides

www.theguardian.com

People used a lot of that pandemic money to buy guns and now they're suffering the consequences with their families.

Smh, will other people ever learn?

 

[SamAndreas]

People used a lot of that pandemic money to buy guns and now they're suffering the consequences with their families.

Smh, will other people ever learn?

I wonder instead if that might not be just another Guardian Gusher. I noticed right off that it was a Guardian article because it was a gusher.

I can't understand the premise of this article. During the COVID epidemic every local gun shop that I know of in my area closed their doors and have not since reopened. New startup gun shops have replaced some of those old gun shops in the area, but not all of those gun shops have been replaced even to this day.

So begs the question, where did they buy those guns?

Or maybe it's a case that this Guardian Gusher is exaggerated. Maybe it didn't all happen that way. Some of it probably did, but not all of it.

 

[coldseat]

I wonder instead if that might not be just another Guardian Gusher. I noticed right off that it was a Guardian article because it was a gusher.

I can't understand the premise of this article. During the COVID epidemic every local gun shop that I know of in my area closed their doors and have not since reopened. New startup gun shops have replaced some of those old gun shops in the area, but not all of those gun shops have been replaced even to this day.

So begs the question, where did they buy those guns?

Or maybe it's a case that this Guardian Gusher is exaggerated. Maybe it didn't all happen that way. Some of it probably did, but not all of it.

Gun sales spiked during and after covid. I remember reading several articles from different sources about it at the time. Especially among minorities. Some of it was a response to Floyd's murder. Some of it was due to more available funds due to stimulus money.

 

[SamAndreas]

Gun sales spiked during and after covid. I remember reading several articles from different sources about it at the time. Especially among minorities. Some of it was a response to Floyd's murder. Some of it was due to more available funds due to stimulus money.

I remember seeing those article as well, and I remember then wondering "where?, " back then.

Maybe in other states, I didn't see it in my part of California. Last time, two weeks ago, I was in Fresno I noticed that the big gun shop on the northside along HWY 41 had reopened under new name and new ownership. It had been closed for four years, since the beginning of COVID.

One gun shop out of the of two in my town has been reopened. The gun market here is recovering, I guess. Very slowly recovering.


New people running it, in the reopened shop. I stopped by after they reopened and met the new people, but I'm not helping them to stay in business very much. They said business has been real slow for them.

20 years ago I went in there and bought a box of 12 gage shotgun shells. This year I went there an bought a box of 12 gage shotgun shells. I'm a loyal 20 year customer, but it doesn't help them that much because on average I only buy one 12 gage shotgun shell a year. I do buy them ahead 20 years at a time, if that helps. But I doubt that it helps very much.

I do buy the more expensive eco-friendly kinds of shotgun shells, they have none of that awful poisonous Lead metal in them.

 

[SaintForLife]

Massie is correct that it's only the media and the Democrats that claim there is a gunshow loophole and there isn't.

 

[SamAndreas]

What's with this massive messy Massy myth, with or without those gun grabbers?

SFL this a Red Massy is corn planter, see. It would be Red if it weren't in a black and white photo:

This video is of a Red Massy reaper binder being pulled by a Red Cockshut. Red and red.



What had been a Red Massy corn chopper, (has rusted to a brown rust color now):



It's all just over cooked cornpone dressed up in a Red Massy conspiracy theory.

 

[MT15]

Putting this here because it involved ammunition. Looks like one guy got released. Good on Fetterman and the State Dept.

 

[MT15]

Oh, this Massie guy? Yeah, I’m going to listen to someone who wants to bring back polio and measles.



Some people are too stupid to ever listen to them. Most people are not this stupid.

 

[Booker]

So tired of reading these kind of stories...

Teens went to a sporting goods store to return airsoft guns. An armed man fatally shot one in the back, authorities say | CNN

An armed man who “took it upon himself” to conduct surveillance outside a sporting goods store in suburban Seattle has been charged with murder after he fatally shot in the back a teenager who had an airsoft gun in his pocket, prosecutors said.

www.cnn.com

 

[bird]

So tired of reading these kind of stories...

Teens went to a sporting goods store to return airsoft guns. An armed man fatally shot one in the back, authorities say | CNN

An armed man who “took it upon himself” to conduct surveillance outside a sporting goods store in suburban Seattle has been charged with murder after he fatally shot in the back a teenager who had an airsoft gun in his pocket, prosecutors said.

www.cnn.com

Lock him up for the rest of his life.