Next Speaker of the House? (1 Viewer)

[MT15]

There’s a lot of doubt that Kevin McCarthy will be able to get enough votes to become Speaker. It certainly won’t happen on the first ballot. Already Boboert and MTG are publicly at odds over it.

Maybe this is worth it’s own thread to watch. One person mentioned is Scalise.

 

[Saintman2884]

McCarthy of all people should know that public shaming will now work. The super MAGA hardliners don't care about him or the country. All they do is look out for their own good. And they definitely feel no shame.

It's just laughable that this guy (with is little stones) is going with the "good of the country" in regard to his election as Speaker.

Some of the MAGA hardliners not voting for McCarthy just don't like him personally or his temperament, personality and ineffectiveness as a would-be leader. And lets not be too overly sympathetic or feel too sorry about McCarthy's miserable embarrassment, humiliation currently. He's made his bed by trying to appeal and cultivate a relationship with far-right idealogues and flying down to Mar-a-Lago what is, two weeks after initially condemning Trump's involvement and culpability in the Jan. 6 riots/insurrection. If he had stuck to his guns, like McConnell did and stayed that way, he might be Speaker of the House right now.

This defeat or rejection by his own party in being nominated for House Speaker shows that even if the GOP is divided, being held hostage by a small minority fringe element, McCarthy is a naked, weak politician who can't be relied upon to deliver on Congressional promises.

Even back in 2015 after Boehner's retirement, McCarthy lost his nomination for House Speaker due to his perceived clumsiness, buffooniah behavior and pissing off partisan Republicans by admitting the obvious that the Benghazi hearings were really designed to make 2016 Democratic Pres. candidate Hillary Clinton look bad. This is before MAGA really took hold, before Boebert, MTG, or Gaetz rose to media prominence, he still wasnt popular enough or seen as a savvy, shrewd political operator that he could be named this nation's third most powerful politician. Thats how important Speaker of the House position is. In 1981, God forbid, if the worst possible series of calamities had occurred where both Reagan and George HW Bush had both been hurt or incapacitated by John Ray Hinckley walking out of that downtown D.C. Hilton hotel, Tip O'Neal, a liberal Massachusetts Democrat, wouldve been the temporary acting President, maybe permanent if the worst possible scenario happened. Highly unlikely, but that wouldve been the proper order of succession and considering the rash of assassinations, attempted assassinations on acting Presidents from JFK, RFK, George Wallace, there were two attempts to kill President Ford in less than two weeks in 1975 in California(one in Sacramento, the other a few weeks later, as Ford walked out the front of a downtown S.F. Hilton Hotel) and then attempt on Reagan's life early in 1981.

 

[Saintman2884]

The “normal” Rs did vote for McCarthy, just like he said. I don’t know why you think his prediction was wrong. Maybe I’m not understanding you.

Everyone who voted against McCarthy is a radical R, plus all the Dems who voted for Jeffries.

In the sense that he, Kinzinger, believed giving into the radical R's demands would actually help him solidify getting their votes, then no, his prediction that it would enable him to buy off enough of them to become House Speaker hasn't come true.

Or did I misinterpret the intention or meaning of Kinzinger's statements, which is possible, I suppose.

 

[MT15]

It would seem to me that the “normal” Rs have a responsibility to put up someone who can work with Democrats and would sideline the insane radical Rs. I would imagine a deal with Dems could be struck.

 

[Optimus Prime]

they said that a total of 434 votes had been cast - but didn't say who didn't vote or why

 

[Optimus Prime]

Matt Gaetz just went full blast on McCarthy and nominated Jim Jordan (who nomintaed McCarthy)

 

[MT15]

 

[Saintman2884]

It would seem to me that the “normal” Rs have a responsibility to put up someone who can work with Democrats and would sideline the insane radical Rs. I would imagine a deal with Dems could be struck.

I certainly agree but Kevin McCarthy isn't that man to be involved in the process and honestly, we shouldn't feel too upset or broken up by him being totally humiliated, embarassed by losing this first, major important first vote. Let's not too feel sorry for a man who has no clear principles, isn't well-liked by some in his own party, is highly temperamental, confrontational and nasty on occasion when things don't go his way, every time.

He pales in comparison to Mitch McConnell, Chuck Schumer, and Nancy Pelosi.

 

[brandon]

McCarthy loses again.

 

[coldseat]

I certainly agree but Kevin McCarthy isn't that man to be involved in the process and honestly, we shouldn't feel too upset or broken up by him being totally humiliated, embarassed by losing this first, major important first vote. Let's not too feel sorry for a man who has no clear principles, isn't well-liked by some in his own party, is highly temperamental, confrontational and nasty on occasion when things don't go his way, every time.

He pales in comparison to Mitch McConnell, Chuck Schumer, and Nancy Pelosi.

I can assure that nobody here feels sorry for Kevin McCarthy and the predicament he's in.

This is more like ...... .

 

[SFIDC3]

I can assure that nobody here fells sorry for Kevin McCarthy and the predicament he's in.

This is more like ...... .

I'm hoping it's the beginning of the end of what this republican party turned into....

 

[GrandAdmiral]

The fact that Clay Higgins isn't on this list is shocking...

 

[GrandAdmiral]

McCarthy is going to take the House to a third ballot. He's not dropping out.

CNN is reporting that the hardliners are going to rally around Jim Jordan, despite him saying he doesn't want it.

 

[insidejob]

McCarthy is going to take the House to a third ballot. He's not dropping out.

CNN is reporting that the hardliners are going to rally around Jim Jordan, despite him saying he doesn't want it.

So this is what an actual shirt show looks like.

 

[GrandAdmiral]

Third vote under way. Already 3 votes for Jordan.

 

[GrandAdmiral]

And with 6 votes for Jim Jordan, looks like McCarthy will lose on the third ballot as well.

 

[samiam5211]

I like that the Republicans are a shirt show, but let's hope they don't fold and end up giving someone like Jim Jordan the gavel.

 

[GrandAdmiral]

I like that the Republicans are a shirt show, but let's hope they don't fold and end up giving someone like Jim Jordan the gavel.

I don't see any way that can happen. Another candidate will pop up first.

 

[GrandAdmiral]

One vote has already flipped from McCarthy to Jordan on the third vote. So if all the others stand firm, McCarthy will have at least 20 Republican votes against him.