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[Huntn]

Anxiety surges as Donald Trump may be indicted soon: Why 2024 is 'the final battle' and 'the big one'​

Anxiety surges as Donald Trump may be indicted soon: Why 2024 is 'the final battle' and 'the big one'

Donald Trump's many legal problems – and calls for protests – have generated new fears of political violence and anxiety about the 2024 election.

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WASHINGTON – It looks like American politics is entering a new age of anxiety, triggered by an unprecedented legal development: The potential indictment of a former president and current presidential candidate.

Donald Trump's many legal problems – and calls for protests by his followers – have generated new fears of political violence and anxiety about the unknowable impact all this will have on the already-tense 2024 presidential election

I’ll reframe this is a more accurate way, Are Presidents above the law? This new age was spurred into existence when home grown dummies elected a corrupt, mentally ill, anti-democratic, would be dictator as President and don’t bother to hold him responsible for his crimes, don’t want to because in the ensuing mayhem and destruction, they think they will be better off. The man is actually advocating violence (not the first time). And btw, screw democracy too. If this feeling spreads, we are In deep shirt.

This goes beyond one treasonous Peice of work and out to all his minions. This is on you or should we be sympathetic to the idea of they can’t help being selfish suckers to the Nation’s detriment? Donald Trump is the single largest individual threat to our democracy and it‘s all going to boil down to will the majority of the GOP return to his embrace and start slinging his excrement to support him?

 

[TampaJoe]

Why can't we call voters stupid for not being tethered to reality enough to realize and acknowledge the unique danger that Trump posed to our country and why he should have never been elected president? That's not a hard ask and you didn't have to be particularly smart to know that. We didn't need all of that is happening now to know that before the election.

Also, Huntn didn't choose the Democratic candidate either. And if you know anything about their posting history, you know they are not Biden or Harris's biggest fan. They just made a better choice for president than you did given the available options.

What you still fail to grasp is that moderates and independents to chose between Trump and another 4 years of Bidenomics or Harris isnt much of a choice. Its a shirt sandwich.

You dont have to get it. You dont have to understand. But it wasnt about race or gender. Biden was a white male and he was polling poorly before Harris. It was about a litany of policies that were not appealing to moderate, independent and conservative voters. But rather than fielding a candidate that appealed the moderates and independents, we were presented a choice between two extremes. So while the choice may have been obvious to you. It was just as obvious to Trumpers. It wasnt quite so obvious to moderates and independents.

 

[RobF]

You can tell when someone's either deliberately trolling or completely unable to accept their own culpability in enabling hatred and authoritarianism and experiencing cognitive dissonance as a result, when they repeatedly lie about obvious things like Democrats not thinking and acknowledging they should have done some things better*, or draw wildly false equivalences between the extremism we're seeing from Trump happening right now and the glaring lack of that under Biden and in the Harris campaign.

Thing is, it's not even remotely credible at this point. It's just sad really.


*And to reiterate, no, recognising they could have done some things better to try to prevent terrible things happening does not make them responsible for the terrible things happening; that remains the responsibility of the people doing the terrible things, and those who supported and enabled them to do so, not those who tried to oppose them.

 

[efil4]

What you still fail to grasp is that moderates and independents to chose between Trump and another 4 years of Bidenomics or Harris isnt much of a choice. Its a shirt sandwich.

You dont have to get it. You dont have to understand. But it wasnt about race or gender. Biden was a white male and he was polling poorly before Harris. It was about a litany of policies that were not appealing to moderate, independent and conservative voters. But rather than fielding a candidate that appealed the moderates and independents, we were presented a choice between two extremes. So while the choice may have been obvious to you. It was just as obvious to Trumpers. It wasnt quite so obvious to moderates and independents.

LOL care to explain what "Bidenomics" is exactly? You dont even know. It was a gitchy campaign slogan.

Meanwhile, we are in a tariff chaos war, market has lost over 10% in valuation since Trump entered office, we are headed toward slowed/negative economic growth/gdp, unemployment is going to rise, inflation is rising again setting the table for a recession or even worse by years end.

All from Trumps economic policy.

you seem to think moderates and independents were solely fixated on economic policy, yet werent astute enough to grasp just how bad Trumps economic policy was going to be.

FA
FO.

They know now. Some just need to burn their hand on a hot stove rather than told " dont touch that, its red hot" and avoid the burn.

 

[DaveXA]

Blaming somebody else heh? Dems have blamed everybody but themselves. Blamed the voter. Blamed the media. They have been passing the buck since the election. Some are blaming other Dems. I havent heard anyone on that side of the aisle own anything.

You just did what Trump did. Birds of a feather and all that.

 

[Dragon]

Blaming somebody else heh? Dems have blamed everybody but themselves. Blamed the voter. Blamed the media. They have been passing the buck since the election. Some are blaming other Dems. I havent heard anyone on that side of the aisle own anything.

Your entire premise is flawed. The Democrats did respect the will of the voters. What we’re witnessing now rests squarely on the shoulders of the electorate — both those who voted for Trump and those who chose not to vote at all.


Trump was never secretive about his intentions for a second term. He laid them out plainly. Anyone who voted for him did so with full awareness of what he planned to do. And those who stayed home on election day abdicated their responsibility as citizens in a democratic society. Inaction has consequences, and we’re seeing them unfold now.

 

[DaveXA]

Your entire premise is flawed. The Democrats did respect the will of the voters. What we’re witnessing now rests squarely on the shoulders of the electorate — both those who voted for Trump and those who chose not to vote at all.


Trump was never secretive about his intentions for a second term. He laid them out plainly. Anyone who voted for him did so with full awareness of what he planned to do. And those who stayed home on election day abdicated their responsibility as citizens in a democratic society. Inaction has consequences, and we’re seeing them unfold now.

Well said.

 

[TampaJoe]

You can tell when someone's either deliberately trolling or completely unable to accept their own culpability in enabling hatred and authoritarianism and experiencing cognitive dissonance as a result, when they repeatedly lie about obvious things like Democrats not thinking and acknowledging they should have done some things better*, or draw wildly false equivalences between the extremism we're seeing from Trump happening right now and the glaring lack of that under Biden and in the Harris campaign.

Thing is, it's not even remotely credible at this point. It's just sad really.


*And to reiterate, no, recognising they could have done some things better to try to prevent terrible things happening does not make them responsible for the terrible things happening; that remains the responsibility of the people doing the terrible things, and those who supported and enabled them to do so, not those who tried to oppose them.

You really stink at ignoring Rob.

I‘m responsible for what I do. I don’t put that on anyone else. I stand by my decision NOT to cast a vote for Trump and I also stand by my decision NOT to vote for Harris. I could not justify voting for either candidate.

 

[TampaJoe]

You just did what Trump did. Birds of a feather and all that.

PTK

 

[efil4]

if you EVER needed a metaphor for this Administration- look no further than this video right here...today.

 

[TampaJoe]

Your entire premise is flawed. The Democrats did respect the will of the voters. What we’re witnessing now rests squarely on the shoulders of the electorate — both those who voted for Trump and those who chose not to vote at all.


Trump was never secretive about his intentions for a second term. He laid them out plainly. Anyone who voted for him did so with full awareness of what he planned to do. And those who stayed home on election day abdicated their responsibility as citizens in a democratic society. Inaction has consequences, and we’re seeing them unfold now.

Choosing not to vote for someone you believe isnt right for the job isnt abdication. It isn‘t inaction Its a conscious hiring decision. One I have made many times in business. I wont pretend to support someone whom I believe isn‘t in the best interest of the country. I would not ask or expect that of anyone.

 

[Optimus Prime]

What you still fail to grasp is that moderates and independents to chose between Trump and another 4 years of Bidenomics or Harris isnt much of a choice. Its a shirt sandwich.

The choice wasn't between two shirt sandwiches (no matter how much you imply that it was) it was between a shirt sandwich and a ham sandwich with mayonnaise and you hate mayo

 

[DaveXA]

The choice wasn't between two shirt sandwiches (no matter how much you imply that it was) it was between a shirt sandwich and a ham sandwich with mayonnaise and you hate mayo

Yeah, he thinks they're two sides of the same coin, which is an absolute preposterous take. There's a reason he's not taken seriously here.

 

[TampaJoe]

The choice wasn't between two shirt sandwiches (no matter how much you imply that it was) it was between a shirt sandwich and a ham sandwich with mayonnaise and you hate mayo

Depends upon your perspective. That is why people vote as they do.

 

[TampaJoe]

Yeah, he thinks they're two sides of the same coin, which is an absolute preposterous take. There's a reason he's not taken seriously here.

I never said two sides of the same coin. Those are your words not mine.

 

[DaveXA]

I never said two sides of the same coin. Those are your words not mine.

Your words speak for themselves. Have a nice day.

 

[coldseat]

You really stink at ignoring Rob.

I‘m responsible for what I do. I don’t put that on anyone else. I stand by my decision NOT to cast a vote for Trump and I also stand by my decision NOT to vote for Harris. I could not justify voting for either candidate.

And look at where we are because of you and millions of others who did the same thing. Thank you. Thank you, very much.

 

[Dragon]

Choosing not to vote for someone you believe isnt right for the job isnt abdication. It isn‘t inaction Its a conscious hiring decision. One I have made many times in business. I wont pretend to support someone whom I believe isn‘t in the best interest of the country. I would not ask or expect that of anyone.

But it is your responsibility. Democracy doesn’t just run on slogans — it requires active participation. Choosing not to vote is choosing to hand over your voice and your power. It’s abdicating responsibility for the direction of the country and pretending you're not part of the outcome.

And speaking of responsibility — you still haven’t explained why you think Harris wasn’t right for the job. Funny how that part keeps getting dodged.

I can’t help but wonder if the real reason is something you’re not willing to say out loud. But let’s be honest — prejudice doesn't always need to be shouted to be loud and clear.

 

[TampaJoe]

And look at where we are because of you and millions of others who did the same thing. Thank you. Thank you, very much.

I didnt pick the candidates. You assume people will simply accept whomever is offered. Obviously it didnt work out like that.