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[Huntn]

Anxiety surges as Donald Trump may be indicted soon: Why 2024 is 'the final battle' and 'the big one'​

Anxiety surges as Donald Trump may be indicted soon: Why 2024 is 'the final battle' and 'the big one'

Donald Trump's many legal problems – and calls for protests – have generated new fears of political violence and anxiety about the 2024 election.

www.yahoo.com

WASHINGTON – It looks like American politics is entering a new age of anxiety, triggered by an unprecedented legal development: The potential indictment of a former president and current presidential candidate.

Donald Trump's many legal problems – and calls for protests by his followers – have generated new fears of political violence and anxiety about the unknowable impact all this will have on the already-tense 2024 presidential election

I’ll reframe this is a more accurate way, Are Presidents above the law? This new age was spurred into existence when home grown dummies elected a corrupt, mentally ill, anti-democratic, would be dictator as President and don’t bother to hold him responsible for his crimes, don’t want to because in the ensuing mayhem and destruction, they think they will be better off. The man is actually advocating violence (not the first time). And btw, screw democracy too. If this feeling spreads, we are In deep shirt.

This goes beyond one treasonous Peice of work and out to all his minions. This is on you or should we be sympathetic to the idea of they can’t help being selfish suckers to the Nation’s detriment? Donald Trump is the single largest individual threat to our democracy and it‘s all going to boil down to will the majority of the GOP return to his embrace and start slinging his excrement to support him?

 

[DaveXA]

When you start answering me first then I will answer you. You have never even once put forth a genuine answer always just demanding others answer yours. Well I am done with you. You are maga but it too ashamed to admit it and keep spreading lies. Well we know what you are and in the end no one will care to answer all your rubish claims.

Walks and talks like a duck...yeah, I'd say it's a duck.

 

[coldseat]

Who's going to stop them? Certainly not the courts.

Despite a court order, White House bars AP from Oval Office event

The Trump administration has turned a reporter and photographer from The Associated Press away from covering an Oval Office news conference involving President Donald Trump and El Salvador President Nayib Bukele.

apnews.com

 

[DaveXA]

Who's going to stop them? Certainly not the courts.

Despite a court order, White House bars AP from Oval Office event

The Trump administration has turned a reporter and photographer from The Associated Press away from covering an Oval Office news conference involving President Donald Trump and El Salvador President Nayib Bukele.

apnews.com

Yet another example of the Administration disregarding the courts.

Law and order? What's that? says MAGAts.

 

[TampaJoe]

When you start answering me first then I will answer you. You have never even once put forth a genuine answer always just demanding others answer yours. Well I am done with you. You are maga but it too ashamed to admit it and keep spreading lies. Well we know what you are and in the end no one will care to answer all your rubish claims.

When you start answering me first then I will answer you. You have never even once put forth a genuine answer always just demanding others answer yours. Well I am done with you. You are maga but it too ashamed to admit it and keep spreading lies. Well we know what you are and in the end no one will care to answer all your rubish claims.

I posted in this thread last Wed in response to another poster. Perhaps you missed it.

Other than the fact that she is a progressive democrat from the most progressive state in the union and I disagree with her on the border and immigation, on education and public schools, on parental rights, on taxation and economic policy, on the judiciary, debt and deficit, defense and foreign policy, I cant think of single thing. That and the fact she was pretty much the first candidate to drop out when she ran for the top spot 4 years ago and did little to nothing to distinquish herself as VP. She failed to connct with many that traditionally make up her base.

I asked many tines during the campaign why I should vote for her and pretty much all I heard was “she‘s better than Trump”. Its been pretty much what is repeated everytime te subject is raised and has been repeted numerous times in this thread. I didnt vote for Trump so to tell me she is better than isnt setting the bar all that high.

I may not like Trump but that does not mean Ibwould be willing to turn leadership over to someone on the far left.

Finally, she has been part and parcel in the purposeful gaslighting of the public regarding the cognitive decline of Biden.

Maybe she checked all your boxes but she didnt check mine and obviously she didnt convince millions of others.

I have been asked many times why I didnt vote Harris. I have answered the same question numerous times. I fail to see what is so difficult to understand. She and I are about as far apart politically as you can get. She is not anywhere near an “old time republican”. Not even close. So while, I could not and did not support her opponent because I felt he was unfit for very different reasons, I also could not support Harris for the reasons so stated.

Now maybe you disagree. I have no problem with that. We dont have to agree. It is not the end of the world. If yu believe otherwise then perhaps it is best that we not converse. That is up to you.

 

[Optimus Prime]

And that’s exactly why you keep getting slammed for not answering the question you haven’t answered it

You basically just said you disagree with her about everything

But when asked specifically what about her policies you never answer

border and immigation, on education and public schools, on parental rights, on taxation and economic policy, on the judiciary, debt and deficit, defense and foreign policy

especially since we see how Trump is handling the above what exactly about Harris proposals for any of the above did you not agree with?

Let’s start with education and public schools

Trump is shutting down the department of education, banning books, threatening universities over DEI, withdrawing fundings, shutting down programs for libraries and museums, new policies will skyrocket people defaulting on their student loans, ICE trying to do raids at schools during school hours, teachers being fired for having posters up simply saying ‘all are welcome’, LGBTQ students and teachers being harassed, forced Bible education, etc.

These are the things that I am 100% against with how Trump is handling education and public schools

What are some of the specific education policy proposals of Kamala Harris you didn’t agree with?

 

[Huntn]

To begin, there is no lack of criticism of the GOP on this board. There is plenty of railing against the GOP. Some of it I agree with and some I do not. I am not sure what you expect. I generally dont comment unless I have a different opinion.

I have said many times that I dont belong to either party because I believe they are both failing this country. And they are. I have said many times I am a conservative. That is how I vote.

I am more likely to disagree with liberal/progressive policy than the other way around. That does not mean I agree with the GOP or the current administration. I would not assume otherwise. Lack of a response is not agreement. That is faulty logic. If you are unsure, then ask a question.

You are not being honest. You are a Trump supporter or you’d be speaking out against him, it’s really that simple.

 

[brandon]

I posted in this thread last Wed in response to another poster. Perhaps you missed it.

Other than the fact that she is a progressive democrat from the most progressive state in the union and I disagree with her on the border and immigation, on education and public schools, on parental rights, on taxation and economic policy, on the judiciary, debt and deficit, defense and foreign policy, I cant think of single thing. That and the fact she was pretty much the first candidate to drop out when she ran for the top spot 4 years ago and did little to nothing to distinquish herself as VP. She failed to connct with many that traditionally make up her base.

I asked many tines during the campaign why I should vote for her and pretty much all I heard was “she‘s better than Trump”. Its been pretty much what is repeated everytime te subject is raised and has been repeted numerous times in this thread. I didnt vote for Trump so to tell me she is better than isnt setting the bar all that high.

I may not like Trump but that does not mean Ibwould be willing to turn leadership over to someone on the far left.

Finally, she has been part and parcel in the purposeful gaslighting of the public regarding the cognitive decline of Biden.

Maybe she checked all your boxes but she didnt check mine and obviously she didnt convince millions of others.

I have been asked many times why I didnt vote Harris. I have answered the same question numerous times. I fail to see what is so difficult to understand. She and I are about as far apart politically as you can get. She is not anywhere near an “old time republican”. Not even close. So while, I could not and did not support her opponent because I felt he was unfit for very different reasons, I also could not support Harris for the reasons so stated.

Now maybe you disagree. I have no problem with that. We dont have to agree. It is not the end of the world. If yu believe otherwise then perhaps it is best that we not converse. That is up to you.

So if you didn’t vote for Kamala because she didn’t do anything to earn your vote, what did the third party candidate you voted for do to earn your vote?

 

[Huntn]

Blaming somebody else heh? Dems have blamed everybody but themselves. Blamed the voter. Blamed the media. They have been passing the buck since the election. Some are blaming other Dems. I havent heard anyone on that side of the aisle own anything.

…blame the morons who based on white privaledge, racism, and xenophobia think The Head Criminal, The Head Russian Agent is a great guy who will make their lives better under an authoritarian regime? Hey, let’s toast with Orange Koolaid!

 

[TampaJoe]

And that’s exactly why you keep getting slammed for not answering the question you haven’t answered it

You basically just said you disagree with her about everything

But when asked specifically what about her policies you never answer

border and immigation, on education and public schools, on parental rights, on taxation and economic policy, on the judiciary, debt and deficit, defense and foreign policy

especially since we see how Trump is handling the above what exactly about Harris proposals for any of the above did you not agree with?

Let’s start with education and public schools

Trump is shutting down the department of education, banning books, threatening universities over DEI, withdrawing fundings, shutting down programs for libraries and museums, new policies will skyrocket people defaulting on their student loans, ICE trying to do raids at schools during school hours, teachers being fired for having posters up simply saying ‘all are welcome’, LGBTQ students and teachers being harassed, forced Bible education, etc.

These are the things that I am 100% against with how Trump is handling education and public schools

What are some of the specific education policy proposals of Kamala Harris you didn’t agree with?

Well Optimus,

Let me ask you a simke question. Would you vote for someone with whom you disagree on most every major issue?

As far as education, specifically, I support parental rights to be made aware of things that affect their children. Kids are not property of the state. Secondly, I favor school choice.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

Well Optimus,

Let me ask you a simke question. Would you vote for someone with whom you disagree on most every major issue?

As far as education, specifically, I support parental rights to be made aware of things that affect their children. Kids are not property of the state. Secondly, I favor school choice.

The problem is that you have not demonstrated that you understand her positions. It's easy to say you disagree with everything when you refuse/are unable to articulate what you are disagreeing with.

 

[TampaJoe]

The problem is that you have not demonstrated that you understand her positions. It's easy to say you disagree with everything when you refuse/are unable to articulate what you are disagreeing with.

I just did.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

I just did.

School choice diverts taxpayer money to private schools, often religious in instruction.

Students, no matter the age, deserve privacy and agency as well as a person of authority in their lives that they can talk to without fear. Some people believe in and have access to confession in church, some have access to therapists. Children most often do not. Do they not deserve a place to speak freely without fear of being spied on/reported/retaliated against?

 

[Optimus Prime]

Well Optimus,

Let me ask you a simke question. Would you vote for someone with whom you disagree on most every major issue?

As far as education, specifically, I support parental rights to be made aware of things that affect their children. Kids are not property of the state. Secondly, I favor school choice.

I guess that's more info than you usually provide

Parents being made aware of things that affect their children is still vague

Are you talking about curriculum? If so what specifically?

Usually when people say that what they really mean is what was redefined as Critical Race Theory, meaning minority history, racism, LGBTQ issues

If a parent disagrees with what is being taught their kids what then? Should the parent have the right to pull the kid out of class, demand that the subject be dropped altogether?

Again that is usually in regards to CRT but where is the line?

if a parent feels there is no need for anyone to know any math beyond basic algebra can the kid not have to take math class after 9th/10th grade?

If a religious parent hates evolution being taught in science class?

Speaking of, some schools are putting religious (read : Christianity) education in public schools

Should they? Should non Christians and atheists be able to pull their kids out that? If the parents are religious but the child is not what then?

Other than the actual subjects being taught the other main issue with parents being made aware is LGBTQ where the child is open at school but not at home

I'll admit I'm more torn on this one, regarding informing the parents,

I'm sure it's a tremendous weight and stress on the student

But for every parent whose response would be "I've known you were gay since you were ten", "I was just waiting for you to tell me when you were ready", "You are my son/daughter and I will love you no matter what" there are parents who would absolutely not react that way, where the kid would get kicked out of the house or worse

Is the kid terrified to tell their parents for no good reason or for an excellent reason?

Should that be the schools call to make? Should the school be held responsible if they make the wrong call and the parent does something to the student?

 

[Optimus Prime]

TRUMP: shutting down the department of education, banning books, threatening universities over DEI, withdrawing fundings, shutting down programs for libraries and museums, new policies will skyrocket people defaulting on their student loans, ICE trying to do raids at schools during school hours, teachers being fired for having posters up simply saying ‘all are welcome’, LGBTQ students and teachers being harassed, forced Bible education, etc.

HARRIS: parents not made aware of things that affect their children. Kids are property of the state. Lack of school choice.

If you don't agree with where Harris stood on education does that mean you agree with what Trump has done?

If you don't agree with Trump either would you say that both Trump and Harris options are equally bad? or would you say one is better or worse?

 

[Optimus Prime]

The choice wasn't between two shirt sandwiches (no matter how much you imply that it was) it was between a shirt sandwich and a ham sandwich with mayonnaise and you hate mayo

 

[TampaJoe]

School choice diverts taxpayer money to private schools, often religious in instruction.

Students, no matter the age, deserve privacy and agency as well as a person of authority in their lives that they can talk to without fear. Some people believe in and have access to confession in church, some have access to therapists. Children most often do not. Do they not deserve a place to speak freely without fear of being spied on/reported/retaliated against?

Are you articulating her position or your position?

 

[RobF]

TRUMP: shutting down the department of education, banning books, threatening universities over DEI, withdrawing fundings, shutting down programs for libraries and museums, new policies will skyrocket people defaulting on their student loans, ICE trying to do raids at schools during school hours, teachers being fired for having posters up simply saying ‘all are welcome’, LGBTQ students and teachers being harassed, forced Bible education, etc.

HARRIS: parents not made aware of things that affect their children. Kids are property of the state. Lack of school choice.

If you don't agree with where Harris stood on education does that mean you agree with what Trump has done?

If you don't agree with Trump either would you say that both Trump and Harris options are equally bad? or would you say one is better or worse?

Is someone making stuff up again? I think I'd need citations for Harris campaigning on "teachers aren't allowed to talk to parents about their children" and "kids are property of the state."

Pretty sure the platform was more universal preschool for four-year olds, literacy programs, fully funding the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act, expanding college grants, that kind of thing.

And not "the state owns your kids."

 

[Optimus Prime]