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[Huntn]

Anxiety surges as Donald Trump may be indicted soon: Why 2024 is 'the final battle' and 'the big one'​

Anxiety surges as Donald Trump may be indicted soon: Why 2024 is 'the final battle' and 'the big one'

Donald Trump's many legal problems – and calls for protests – have generated new fears of political violence and anxiety about the 2024 election.

www.yahoo.com

WASHINGTON – It looks like American politics is entering a new age of anxiety, triggered by an unprecedented legal development: The potential indictment of a former president and current presidential candidate.

Donald Trump's many legal problems – and calls for protests by his followers – have generated new fears of political violence and anxiety about the unknowable impact all this will have on the already-tense 2024 presidential election

I’ll reframe this is a more accurate way, Are Presidents above the law? This new age was spurred into existence when home grown dummies elected a corrupt, mentally ill, anti-democratic, would be dictator as President and don’t bother to hold him responsible for his crimes, don’t want to because in the ensuing mayhem and destruction, they think they will be better off. The man is actually advocating violence (not the first time). And btw, screw democracy too. If this feeling spreads, we are In deep shirt.

This goes beyond one treasonous Peice of work and out to all his minions. This is on you or should we be sympathetic to the idea of they can’t help being selfish suckers to the Nation’s detriment? Donald Trump is the single largest individual threat to our democracy and it‘s all going to boil down to will the majority of the GOP return to his embrace and start slinging his excrement to support him?

 

[SaintForLife]

Yeah..I love how they started the vaccine hesitancy by saying they trusted vaccines and trust the scientists who create them.

And they wouldn't trust the vaccine if it was released before the election. Of course they were trying to get the vaccine out as quickly as possible, but Joe and Kamala were worried Trump would get credit for the vaccine. Sickening behavior from the supposed adults in the room.

 

[bird]

And they wouldn't trust the vaccine if it was released before the election. Of course they were trying to get the vaccine out as quickly as possible, but Joe and Kamala were worried Trump would get credit for the vaccine. Sickening behavior from the supposed adults in the room.

Bullschlitz. Trump, gutless turd that he was and is, downplayed the pandemic despite being warned about it in advance. Because of him thousands died. Don’t peddle your schlitz here.

 

[fooferdoggie]

And they wouldn't trust the vaccine if it was released before the election. Of course they were trying to get the vaccine out as quickly as possible, but Joe and Kamala were worried Trump would get credit for the vaccine. Sickening behavior from the supposed adults in the room.

right more sick trump did not promote the vaccine because it would benefit Biden os he let his own supposed people die at a 3.5 times higher rate.

 

[FullMonte]

And they wouldn't trust the vaccine if it was released before the election. Of course they were trying to get the vaccine out as quickly as possible, but Joe and Kamala were worried Trump would get credit for the vaccine. Sickening behavior from the supposed adults in the room.

I don't pay to subscribe to the NYT, so if you could quote from that article where someone said that in the NYT article, I'd love to read it. The guardian article doesn't say that anywhere. What I DO see in the Guardian article is:

"Asked if she would personally take any vaccine given the green light in the US before the November poll, Harris replied: “I will say that I would not trust Donald Trump and it would have to be a credible source of information that talks about the efficacy and the reliability of whatever he’s talking about. I will not take his word for it.”

So, I see Harris saying that she wouldn't take Trump's word, but that she would be ok with a credible source saying it was ready. That is not, in any way, saying that she wouldn't trust a vaccine released before the election.

 

[SaintForLife]

I don't pay to subscribe to the NYT, so if you could quote from that article where someone said that in the NYT article, I'd love to read it. The guardian article doesn't say that anywhere. What I DO see in the Guardian article is:

"Asked if she would personally take any vaccine given the green light in the US before the November poll, Harris replied: “I will say that I would not trust Donald Trump and it would have to be a credible source of information that talks about the efficacy and the reliability of whatever he’s talking about. I will not take his word for it.”

So, I see Harris saying that she wouldn't take Trump's word, but that she would be ok with a credible source saying it was ready. That is not, in any way, saying that she wouldn't trust a vaccine released before the election.

I don't subscribe to the NYT. What a dumb quote from Harris as if Trump was responsible or involved in the production or testing of the vaccine.

They knew exactly what they were doing. They were worried about him getting credit for the vaccine and it helping him in the election. They were obviously more concerned about winning the election than protecting the public from Covid.

 

[bird]

I don't subscribe to the NYT. What a dumb quote from Harris as if Trump was responsible or involved in the production or testing of the vaccine.

They knew exactly what they were doing. They were worried about him getting credit for the vaccine and it helping him in the election. They were obviously more concerned about winning the election than protecting the public from Covid.

Trump knew exactly what he was doing. He was more concerned about the stock market than the American people.

So, no matter how you try to flocking slice it, Trump allowed thousands to die for his vanity.

Take your bullschlitz somewhere else.

 

[FullMonte]

I don't subscribe to the NYT. What a dumb quote from Harris as if Trump was responsible or involved in the production or testing of the vaccine.

They knew exactly what they were doing. They were worried about him getting credit for the vaccine and it helping him in the election. They were obviously more concerned about winning the election than protecting the public from Covid.

So. you agree that no one in the Biden administration (at least in the two articles you posted) ever said that they wouldn't trust a vaccine that was released before the election?

As for her quote, are you really going to start saying that someone criticizing Trump is making a bad quote because he wasn't responsible? Do we need to start listing all the times Trump has blamed people in the government for things they weren't responsible for?

 

[SaintForLife]

Are you trying to say there was something wrong or sinister about not trusting a man who told over 30,000 lies during his presidency (starting from day one about how many people were at the inauguration and what the weather was), found guilty of sexual assault, found guilty of defrauding New York to the tune of half a billion dollars, charged with 91 felonies, and just lied yesterday saying the gag order prevented him from testifying?

Are trying to say there was something wrong with questioning the motives of a man who never says or does anything unless it benefits him personally, a man will say or do anything for personal benefit?

It wasn’t the vaccine hesitancy, it was Trump hesitancy.

They didn’t trust Trump then, they don’t now

I don’t

I’ve said this before, if I was in a windowless room and Trump told me it was raining outside I wouldn’t believe him

And if it was actually raining I’d wonder what his angle was, I’d wonder what he gets out of me knowing it was raining

Trump is a habitual liar, but all politicians lie constantly. I don't think that's the point you think it is. Yeah Trump is the only politician that wants to do things that benefit himself lol. Nobody should think politicians are good people or someone to look up to as role models.

Your Democrat talking points hadn't even happened by the 2020 election. How would those things that hadn't happened yet with Trump worry Joe and Kamala back then?

They were worried about Trump getting credit for the vaccine and helping him in the election. They obviously cared more about winning the election than protecting citizens from COVID.

 

[MT15]

Bullschlitz. Trump, gutless turd that he was and is, downplayed the pandemic despite being warned about it in advance. Because of him thousands died. Don’t peddle your schlitz here.

Hundreds of thousands of Americans died, needlessly. Because of Trump’s mishandling the pandemic.

 

[MT15]

Trump is a habitual liar, but all politicians lie constantly. I don't think that's the point you think it is. Yeah Trump is the only politician that wants to do things that benefit himself lol. Nobody should think politicians are good people or someone to look up to as role models.

Your Democrat talking points hadn't even happened by the 2020 election. How would those things that hadn't happened yet with Trump worry Joe and Kamala back then?

They were worried about Trump getting credit for the vaccine and helping him in the election. They obviously cared more about winning the election than protecting citizens from COVID.

This is the opposite of true. The exact opposite. We have tapes of Trump saying he knew how bad Covid was, but he wanted to hide it from the public. Because he knew it would hurt his chances.

Every accusation from a Trumper is projection and a confession. Every single one.

 

[bird]

Trump is a habitual liar, but all politicians lie constantly. I don't think that's the point you think it is. Yeah Trump is the only politician that wants to do things that benefit himself lol. Nobody should think politicians are good people or someone to look up to as role models.

Your Democrat talking points hadn't even happened by the 2020 election. How would those things that hadn't happened yet with Trump worry Joe and Kamala back then?

They were worried about Trump getting credit for the vaccine and helping him in the election. They obviously cared more about winning the election than protecting citizens from COVID.

No. They were not. Trump however was utterly concerned about Biden getting credit for the border deal that was negotiated largely in favor of Republicans that he demanded they kill it. And your gutless party did exactly that.

 

[fooferdoggie]

This is the opposite of true. The exact opposite. We have tapes of Trump saying he knew how bad Covid was, but he wanted to hide it from the public. Because he knew it would hurt his chances.

Every accusation from a Trumper is projection and a confession. Every single one.

also that he thought democrats would suffer more so he did not make a national plan and left it up to the states. but Biden is somehow horrible.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Trump is a habitual liar, but all politicians lie constantly. I don't think that's the point you think it is. Yeah Trump is the only politician that wants to do things that benefit himself lol. Nobody should think politicians are good people or someone to look up to as role models.

Your Democrat talking points hadn't even happened by the 2020 election. How would those things that hadn't happened yet with Trump worry Joe and Kamala back then?

They were worried about Trump getting credit for the vaccine and helping him in the election. They obviously cared more about winning the election than protecting citizens from COVID.

The old ‘both sides’

Has joe Biden told 30K lies?

Has he exaggerated, downplayed, Cherry picked? Sure, that’s the thing all politicians do

That isn’t 30 thousand lies. Trump will lie when the truth would do

And my “democratic talking points” as you call them was just to point out that Donald Trump was an unrepentant, amoral liar and grifter before he was president, as president, after being president and as recently as this morning

They were worried that Trump wanted credit for the vaccine to help him win the election. And the vaccine would be rushed, untested and half arsed

You think someone who’s on record saying “just say the election was stolen, we’ll handle the rest” is above telling someone “just say we have a vaccine, we’ll handle the rest”?

Trump infinitely cared more about how covid reflected on him personally than it killing thousands of Americans a day

And Trump was concerned about Biden getting credit for the immigration bill and we saw how he handled that

 

[LA - L.A.]

Trump is a habitual liar

This is a rare statement of truth from SaintForLife. SaintForLife is honestly acknowledging and admitting that Trump is a habitual liar.

Yet, SaintForLife, will still vote for Trump, even though he admits he knows Trump is a habitual liar.

Yet, SaintForLife still wants Trump to win the election, even though he admits he knows Trump is a habitual liar.

Yet, SaintForLIfe still regurgitates pro-Trump lies, even though he admits he knows Trump is a habitual liar.

Yet, SaintForLife still does everything in his power to help Trump win, even though he admits he knows Trump is a habitual liar.

That explains why SaintForLife has to tell himselfe the following falsehood:

...all politicians lie constantly.

That is completely wrong and completely not true. SaintForLife needs people to believe that is true, because believing that falsehood is the only way that any reasonable person get themself to vote for Trump.

The only way a reasonable person can get themself to vote for Trump, a habitual liar, is to be fooled or to fool themselves into wrongly believing that all politicians are habitual liars like Trump.

It's wrong and not true. They aren't all habitual liars like Trump and most importantly, Biden is not a habitual liar. You want proof Biden's not a habitual liar?

Look at how hard and how long House Republicans have tried to dig up dirt on Biden to impeach him. Look at all the false claims they made about Biden. With all that time, effort and obsessive compulsive drive to find anything they could use to impeach Biden, they couldn't find a single thing they could impeach Biden with.

If the House Republicans had found a series of lies that Biden told, they would have impeached him. Did Biden get impeached? No, he did not, because he's not a habitual liar or a bad person.

Nobody should think politicians are good people or someone to look up to as role models.

Here's a tacit admission by SaintForLIfe that they know Trump is not a good person and not someone to look up to as a role model, even though he and all of MAGA look up to Trump as a role model.

Since SaintForLife is still going to vote for Trump and continue to do everything in his power to help Trump win, he has to have this absurdly wrong-minded idea that none of our politicians are good people and that we shouldn't look up to any of them.

Biden has his flaws and I have a lot of issues with some of the things he says and does, but Biden is a good, honest person overall and he is a vastly more honest and better person than Trump. The proof that is true, look at how many lifelong Republicans are openly campaigning for Biden. That's how bad Trump and how much better Biden is than Trup.

For any reasonable person to vote for Trump, they have to be fooled or fool themselves into wrongly believing that all politicians, especially Biden, is as bad of a person as Trump. The only politicians who are as bad of a person as Trump are the ones who blindly follow and support Trump.

We all know, including SaintForLife, that Trump is a terrible person and a terrible person to vote for. Any reasonable person would not vote at all before voting for Trump, so if you just can't bring yourself to vote for Biden, then please just don't vote.

Not voting at all is a better moral and civic choice than voting for Trump.

 

[MT15]

 

[MT15]

They knew exactly what they were doing. They were worried about him getting credit for the vaccine and it helping him in the election. They were obviously more concerned about winning the election than protecting the public from Covid.

You just make stuff up. This has no basis in reality except in your own mind.

 

[MT15]

Never forget how he treated health professionals who were concerned about the lack of PPE. More than 3600 health care workers died from Covid in the first year of the pandemic, most in larger cities, while the federal government hoarded PPE. Never forget.

12 Months of Trauma: More Than 3,600 US Health Workers Died in Covid’s First Year - KFF Health News

Lost on the Frontline, a yearlong investigation by The Guardian and KHN to count health care worker deaths, ends today. This is what we learned in a year of tracing the lives of those who made the ultimate sacrifice.

kffhealthnews.org

 

[Optimus Prime]

You just make stuff up. This has no basis in reality except in your own mind.

and like you've said every accusation is an admission

This is exactly what they were worried about with the immigration bill. They've admitted it.