Min wage/UBI/debt forgiveness... (2 Viewers)

[GMRfellowtraveller]

What keeps the prices for everything from puffing up to absorb new, available cash?

is there a mechanism to keep rents and goods and services from increasing by 500%?

 

[wardorican]

tangential

I'm laughing.. and crying...

 

[Heathen]

Looking at all of the right wing goons of every comment section of every minimum wage post, it's apparent why we're writhing in disarray during the pandemic while the rest of the world watches, horrified. "I thought you guys said you were the greatest country in the history of the planet?" some country sheepishly but sharply remarks from somewhere in the back....


Stockholm syndrome on a massive scale. The rich get richer and right wingers still demonize the poor, minorities, and anyone else they view as getting a hand up. Talk about confused....

 

[Goatman saint]

Looking at all of the right wing goons of every comment section of every minimum wage post, it's apparent why we're writhing in disarray during the pandemic while the rest of the world watches, horrified. "I thought you guys said you were the greatest country in the history of the planet?" some country sheepishly but sharply remarks from somewhere in the back....


Stockholm syndrome on a massive scale. The rich get richer and right wingers still demonize the poor, minorities, and anyone else they view as getting a hand up. Talk about confused....

And then they scream about how their taxes have already gone up. God I hate social media. Father in law gets freaked every time the inheritance tax comes up. He’s already giving things away because the government is going to take all his stuff when he dies with the death tax. I’m like dude, your trailer house, garage and Subaru aren’t going to get you anywhere near that.
If anything takes all your stuff it will be Citibank and Bank of America.

 

[wardorican]

And then they scream about how their taxes have already gone up. God I hate social media. Father in law gets freaked every time the inheritance tax comes up. He’s already giving things away because the government is going to take all his stuff when he dies with the death tax. I’m like dude, your trailer house, garage and Subaru aren’t going to get you anywhere near that.
If anything takes all your stuff it will be Citibank and Bank of America.

Oh, that's a great line.

 

[Farb]

https://www.dailywire.com/news/livi...apse-an-insiders-account-of-venezuelas-demise
Despite experiencing what can only be described as an economic disaster, many people still defended the policies of the regime, and even the regime itself. While Chávez and then Maduro grew ever more unpopular, people were brainwashed into believing that — despite evidence to the contrary — socialist policies were the way forward. If prices increased, it was speculators who were at fault, not the government for controlling the price or nationalizing businesses. If people made less money, the government just had to further raise the minimum wage, causing inflation to rise again. I’d frequently hear how if the regime was ousted, we couldn’t remove price and currency controls or enable privatization because chaos would immediately follow. Arguing for private ownership of the oil sector was taboo, with shock following even a whisper of the word privatization. People had grown accustomed to massive government intervention and they couldn’t imagine a world without it.

This is an interesting read regardless of you politics. Of course, being a alt-right winger, I tend to agree with the author telling his truth. The author shows this was not just a sudden or dramatic change in the society but one that took several years, even generations (except corruption, that one was pretty quickly adopted).

But, there might be hope, after we burn everything down to the ground of course...

.... The good news is that it seems that the ever-worsening economic crisis eventually started to change people’s minds. As a young teenager, everyone but a small minority defended socialist programs and policies. By 2016, free market advocacy had become commonplace. Venezuelans were waking up. Today, the latest polls show that nearly 8 in 10 Venezuelans don’t want Venezuela to be a socialist country anymore. Clearly, living through socialism is the best way to learn what it actually means.

 

[brandon]

https://www.dailywire.com/news/livi...apse-an-insiders-account-of-venezuelas-demise
Despite experiencing what can only be described as an economic disaster, many people still defended the policies of the regime, and even the regime itself. While Chávez and then Maduro grew ever more unpopular, people were brainwashed into believing that — despite evidence to the contrary — socialist policies were the way forward. If prices increased, it was speculators who were at fault, not the government for controlling the price or nationalizing businesses. If people made less money, the government just had to further raise the minimum wage, causing inflation to rise again. I’d frequently hear how if the regime was ousted, we couldn’t remove price and currency controls or enable privatization because chaos would immediately follow. Arguing for private ownership of the oil sector was taboo, with shock following even a whisper of the word privatization. People had grown accustomed to massive government intervention and they couldn’t imagine a world without it.

This is an interesting read regardless of you politics. Of course, being a alt-right winger, I tend to agree with the author telling his truth. The author shows this was not just a sudden or dramatic change in the society but one that took several years, even generations (except corruption, that one was pretty quickly adopted).

But, there might be hope, after we burn everything down to the ground of course...

.... The good news is that it seems that the ever-worsening economic crisis eventually started to change people’s minds. As a young teenager, everyone but a small minority defended socialist programs and policies. By 2016, free market advocacy had become commonplace. Venezuelans were waking up. Today, the latest polls show that nearly 8 in 10 Venezuelans don’t want Venezuela to be a socialist country anymore. Clearly, living through socialism is the best way to learn what it actually means.

Again, but this time with Sweden, Norway, Finland, France, or the UK.

You know, countries with policies that are actually similar to the ones proposed by Democrats.

 

[Yggdrasill]

Chavez and Maduro were the awful leftism incarnation of populism, just as Trump was the awful rightwing version.