Make America Healthy Again - Trump populism comes to health regulation (3 Viewers)

[superchuck500]

This is going to need a thread as we move forward - there are now clear signs that Trump supports a new, critical if not dubious approach on vaccination, and his HHS nominee RFK Jr. regularly espouses eating raw milk and raw meat . . . dietary components most experts agree are more dangerous than their heated counterparts.

Health is certainly one of those areas were anti-institutionalism and turning to popular influencers over medical science comes with genuine risk of harm.

Today Trump provided his most clear indication that he is a vaccine skeptic - claiming (falsely of course) that the USA doesn't "do as well" as other nations that use no vaccines at all.

 

[superchuck500]

Dr. Oz's confirmation hearing (to be head of CMS - which administers medicaid and medicare).

 

[MT15]

Well, this is alarming.

“On Wednesday, a woman gave birth in a Lubbock, Texas, hospital in the middle of a deadly and fast-growing measles outbreak. Doctors didn’t realize until the young mother had been admitted and in labor that she was infected with the measles.

By that time, other new moms, newborn babies and their families at University Medical Center Children’s Hospital in Lubbock had unknowingly been exposed to the virus, considered one of the most contagious in the world.”

Newborn babies exposed to measles in Texas hospital — NBC News

Infants barely three days old are receiving antibody injections to help protect against the virus. Nearly 300 cases have been reported in the outbreak.

apple.news

 

[MT15]

They can give the newborns IG shots to help protect them, as the outbreak now spreads to the third state. It’s early March, and we have more cases in this one outbreak than all of 2024.

“The outbreak expanded this week from Texas and New Mexico into Oklahoma, where two cases were confirmed. New Mexico has reported 35 cases.

West Texas remains the epicenter of the outbreak that began last month. On Friday, the Texas Department of State Health Services reported 259 measles cases. Most (201) have been in kids and teenagers.

One child, a 6-year-old girl in Gaines County, Texas, died. Another death in an adult in New Mexico is under investigation. Neither had been vaccinated against measles.

Altogether, the current number of cases has exceeded the total reported in 2024.

Curry, who’s administered several immunoglobulin shots to newborns in recent days, stressed that those babies will need to be vaccinated when they’re old enough.

“This is only good for a small, short period of time,” he said. “They still need to be vaccinated. That is the only total protection.””

 

[MT15]

Scientists have just been able to cure pancreatic cancer in a man using an mRNA vaccine. And the lunatic in charge of HHS wants to stop all research.

 

[superchuck500]

Scientists have just been able to cure pancreatic cancer in a man using an mRNA vaccine. And the lunatic in charge of HHS wants to stop all research.

We live in the stupidest of times

 

[fooferdoggie]

well, idiots are listening to brain worm.

‘It’s been flying off the shelf,’ Lubbock pharmacy sees more Vitamin A and Cod Liver Oil purchases amidst West Texas measles outbreak​

https://www.everythinglubbock.com/news/local-news/its-been-flying-off-the-shelf-lubbock-pharmacy-sees-more-vitamin-a-and-cod-liver-oil-purchases-amidst-west-texas-measles-outbreak/

 

[Optimus Prime]

well, idiots are listening to brain worm.

‘It’s been flying off the shelf,’ Lubbock pharmacy sees more Vitamin A and Cod Liver Oil purchases amidst West Texas measles outbreak​

https://www.everythinglubbock.com/news/local-news/its-been-flying-off-the-shelf-lubbock-pharmacy-sees-more-vitamin-a-and-cod-liver-oil-purchases-amidst-west-texas-measles-outbreak/

I’m always amazed at how many people will blindly try any supposed remedy but blatantly reject the proven treatment with decades of research, testing, and use

 

[coldseat]

I’m always amazed at how many people will blindly try any supposed remedy but blatantly reject the proven treatment with decades of research, testing, and use

I think it has to do with the simplicity factor. Vitamin A and Cod Liver Oil aren't scary because they're available over the counter and common. Even if you take them and they have no effect, it won't likely have a negative effect. Now when it comes to taking other drugs like hydroxychloroquine, I don't get that at all.

Vaccines are increasingly using technology that people aren't familiar with, which allows people with bad intentions to distort how they work. Also, since it's something you take as preventative, people tend to conflate negative effects you may get with other prescribed medication with that of vaccines. People are also scarred of vaccine testing because of things that happened in the past with stuff like syphilis testing. They don't trust the government as a result and heap that onto vaccines.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Officials at the National Institutes of Health (NIH) have reportedly told scientists to scrub all references to mRNA vaccine technology from grant applications, sparking fears that the agency could soon scrap research programs into the vaccinations under Health and Human Services Commissioner Robert F Kennedy Jr.

One vaccine scientist based in New York funded by the agency was warned that references to mRNA vaccines should not appear in any future applications after referring to them in previous ones. “There will not be any research funded by NIH on mRNA vaccines,” the scientist added.

The technology was deployed in the development of Covid vaccines, which President Donald Trump boasted about during his first term in his Operation Warp Speed vaccine summit. It has been credited with saving some 3 million lives.

The mRNA vaccine technology is currently being studied at the NIH, which falls under the domain of the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), for the prevention and treatment of other infectious diseases, such as flu and AIDs. It’s also part of research in the fight against cancer.

But now scientists are concerned that under Kennedy the agency will move away from the life-saving research, reports to KFF Health News.

One scientist at a biomedical research center in Philadelphia wrote to a colleague that a project officer at the agency had “flagged our pending grant as having an mRNA vaccine component,” the email seen by the outlet said. “It’s still unclear whether mRNA vaccine grants will be canceled,” the scientist reportedly added.

“Kennedy’s war on vaccines has started,” the scientist added in the message to his colleague, noted KFF Health News.…….

NIH officials reportedly told scientists to erase mRNA references on grants

‘Kennedy’s war on vaccines has started,’ one scientist reportedly warned

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Lapaz]

Officials at the National Institutes of Health (NIH) have reportedly told scientists to scrub all references to mRNA vaccine technology from grant applications, sparking fears that the agency could soon scrap research programs into the vaccinations under Health and Human Services Commissioner Robert F Kennedy Jr.

One vaccine scientist based in New York funded by the agency was warned that references to mRNA vaccines should not appear in any future applications after referring to them in previous ones. “There will not be any research funded by NIH on mRNA vaccines,” the scientist added.

The technology was deployed in the development of Covid vaccines, which President Donald Trump boasted about during his first term in his Operation Warp Speed vaccine summit. It has been credited with saving some 3 million lives.

The mRNA vaccine technology is currently being studied at the NIH, which falls under the domain of the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), for the prevention and treatment of other infectious diseases, such as flu and AIDs. It’s also part of research in the fight against cancer.

But now scientists are concerned that under Kennedy the agency will move away from the life-saving research, reports to KFF Health News.

One scientist at a biomedical research center in Philadelphia wrote to a colleague that a project officer at the agency had “flagged our pending grant as having an mRNA vaccine component,” the email seen by the outlet said. “It’s still unclear whether mRNA vaccine grants will be canceled,” the scientist reportedly added.

“Kennedy’s war on vaccines has started,” the scientist added in the message to his colleague, noted KFF Health News.…….

NIH officials reportedly told scientists to erase mRNA references on grants

‘Kennedy’s war on vaccines has started,’ one scientist reportedly warned

www.independent.co.uk

This is so idiotic, but other countries will probably develop the vaccines. Will the administration block vaccines from other countries?

 

[fooferdoggie]

This is so idiotic, but other countries will probably develop the vaccines. Will the administration block vaccines from other countries?

the whole Mrna thing is just crazy. you have red states starting to ban it altogether. idiots with a very poor education making life-and-death choices.

 

[MT15]

This is so idiotic, but other countries will probably develop the vaccines. Will the administration block vaccines from other countries?

I saw a scientist talking about this on BlueSky. She said that the US has traditionally spent the most money on medical research in the entire world, which is partly because of the size of our economy. So it’s not like this research will immediately get picked up by other countries.

And mRNA vaccines are poised to do really incredible cancer cures. Setting this research back will undoubtedly cost people’s lives.

 

[Dragon]

I saw a scientist talking about this on BlueSky. She said that the US has traditionally spent the most money on medical research in the entire world, which is partly because of the size of our economy. So it’s not like this research will immediately get picked up by other countries.

And mRNA vaccines are poised to do really incredible cancer cures. Setting this research back will undoubtedly cost people’s lives.

Several European universities are offering paid reseach grants to US researchers doing environmental and health research, This is one of them

At a time when academic freedom is sometimes called into question, Aix-Marseille Université is launching the Safe Place For Science program, offering a safe and stimulating environment for scientists wishing to pursue their research in complete freedom.
In a context where some scientists in the United States may feel threatened or hindered in their research, our university is announcing the launch of the Safe Place For Science program, dedicated to welcoming scientists wishing to pursue their work in an environment conducive to innovation, excellence and academic freedom.
As a major player in European research, Aix-Marseille University offers cutting-edge infrastructures, major international collaborations and strong support for scientists working on groundbreaking, forward-looking themes.
The AMIDEX foundation will support the funding of research positions, particularly in the fields of climate, environment, health and human and social sciences (SHS).
We expect to be able to raise up to 15 million euros for a 3-year programand and will be working with local institutions to welcome around 15 researchers.
Eric Berton - President of Aix-Marseille Université.


https://www.univ-amu.fr/en/public/a...-universite-ready-welcome-american-scientists

 

[MT15]

Several European universities are offering paid reseach grants to US researchers doing environmental and health research, This is one of them

At a time when academic freedom is sometimes called into question, Aix-Marseille Université is launching the Safe Place For Science program, offering a safe and stimulating environment for scientists wishing to pursue their research in complete freedom.
In a context where some scientists in the United States may feel threatened or hindered in their research, our university is announcing the launch of the Safe Place For Science program, dedicated to welcoming scientists wishing to pursue their work in an environment conducive to innovation, excellence and academic freedom.
As a major player in European research, Aix-Marseille University offers cutting-edge infrastructures, major international collaborations and strong support for scientists working on groundbreaking, forward-looking themes.
The AMIDEX foundation will support the funding of research positions, particularly in the fields of climate, environment, health and human and social sciences (SHS).
We expect to be able to raise up to 15 million euros for a 3-year programand and will be working with local institutions to welcome around 15 researchers.
Eric Berton - President of Aix-Marseille Université.


https://www.univ-amu.fr/en/public/a...-universite-ready-welcome-american-scientists

I wasn’t trying to say that Europe cannot pick up some of the slack, her point was that they cannot take the place of the NIH in sheer volume. The most recent budget I can find is an annual 48 billion.

 

[MT15]

This is somewhat alarming. RFK, Jr is saying stuff that’s pretty “out there” to virologists. He is advocating that flocks of chickens with bird flu (H5N1) not be culled, but just isolated and allow the virus to run through them. He then says that H5N1 cannot be transmitted through food - milk, eggs, meat - of infected animals.

Two things:

1. The virus can absolutely be transmitted through food that isn’t cooked properly - and raw milk has already been shown to be a vector. He is too casual about the transmission of a disease that seems to have a really high fatality rate (so far) in humans.

2. Allowing the virus to “run through” these huge flocks of tens of thousands of chickens when the fatality rate for chickens is very, very close to 100% is inhumane. It also makes a fertile ground for viral mutations and exposes farm workers needlessly to the virus, which they can catch. The fatality rate last I saw for humans is near 50%, which may come down, but why put these farm workers at risk? Especially just to alleviate egg prices.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Donald Trump’s administration is reportedly mulling cuts to a public health program that accounts for nearly all federal spending on HIVprevention efforts, reaching thousands of people a year.

With no other programs to replace them, cuts to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s HIV Prevention Division could jeopardize progress in addressing the nation’s HIV epidemic and potentially cost lives, according to public health experts and LGBT+ advocacy groups.

More than $1 billion was appropriated for HIV prevention efforts this year, and the agency spent roughly $1.3 billion on the prevention of HIV and sexually transmitted infections within the previous fiscal year. About three-quarters of that spending supports state and local health departments and nonprofit groups working to prevent HIV in their communities.

In 2022, more than 22 million HIV tests were performed by 60 CDC-funded state and local health departments and community organizations, which connected roughly 8,000 people newly diagnosed with HIV to healthcare they may have otherwise not received.…….

Trump administration weighs deep cuts to CDC’s HIV prevention program

LGBT+ groups and public health advocates warn against potential threats that could jeopardize progress and ‘set us back decades’

www.independent.co.uk

 

[coldseat]

Donald Trump’s administration is reportedly mulling cuts to a public health program that accounts for nearly all federal spending on HIVprevention efforts, reaching thousands of people a year.

With no other programs to replace them, cuts to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s HIV Prevention Division could jeopardize progress in addressing the nation’s HIV epidemic and potentially cost lives, according to public health experts and LGBT+ advocacy groups.

More than $1 billion was appropriated for HIV prevention efforts this year, and the agency spent roughly $1.3 billion on the prevention of HIV and sexually transmitted infections within the previous fiscal year. About three-quarters of that spending supports state and local health departments and nonprofit groups working to prevent HIV in their communities.

In 2022, more than 22 million HIV tests were performed by 60 CDC-funded state and local health departments and community organizations, which connected roughly 8,000 people newly diagnosed with HIV to healthcare they may have otherwise not received.…….

Trump administration weighs deep cuts to CDC’s HIV prevention program

LGBT+ groups and public health advocates warn against potential threats that could jeopardize progress and ‘set us back decades’

www.independent.co.uk

These people are so evil. They're intending for HIV to become an epidemic again and spread across the gay community so that it will kill many gay men. This really can't be read any other way.

 

[fooferdoggie]

hey are so grieving and all that they would do it all over again to prevent getting a vaccine. When you sacrifice your children for your faith there is something deeply wrong with your fate. but hey they used the cod liver oil so there is that.


The parents of an unvaccinated 6-year-old girl who died of measles in Texas last month sat down for an interview with Children's Health Defense (CHD), the rabid anti-vaccine organization founded and run until recently by Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who is now US health secretary under the Trump administration.

The child's vaccine-preventable death marked the first measles fatality in the US in a decade. It's a tragedy that stands as a dark reminder of the dangers of the disease—one of the most infectious known to humankind—and the importance of the lifesaving vaccinations. But, in the interview, CHD wielded the loss of the young child as a means to downplay the deadly disease, attack the Measles, Mumps, and Rubella vaccine, tout unproven treatments, and spread misinformation.

Preventable death​

The video interview, which was posted Monday, begins with the grieving parents, who are Mennonites, recounting their daughter's decline amid sobs: She came down with measles, developed the telltale rash, and then her fever kept climbing, and her breathing worsened. They took her to the emergency room and she was admitted to the hospital. Doctors found she had developed pneumonia, a known complication of measles that strikes about 1 in 20 children infected and is the most common cause of measles deaths in young children. Her condition deteriorated, she was moved to the intensive care unit, intubated, but continued to decline and died.

Mom of child dead from measles: “Don’t do the shots,” my other 4 kids were fine

The interview downplayed the disease, maligned vaccines…

arstechnica.com