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No, I won't waste my time with you because you aren't willing or capable of comprehending his point. Keep patting yourself on the back though. It's a good look for those with limited understanding.
You won't because you can't.
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Now, for anyone reading this who actually cares about more than low-level trolling...
The point Freeman was making if you read/see the entire interview wasn't that we should become ostriches on racism, it was that if EVERYONE were to stop using race as an identifier it wouldn't be an issue. So if you stop identifying me as black and I stop identifying you as white we can make some progress. However, it isn't "pretend there's no racism, click your heels three times and woosh! there it goes". That's child-like thinking and fortunately at least Freeman is brighter than that. Unfortuately, not everyone else is.
What I think Freeman misses is race is part of the fundamental human condition. Notice I said race, not racism. You all know my mantra that we need a more nuanced discussion of race than just racist or not. We are tribal by nature and will always seek to find characteristics we identify with to bond together. The key is to minimize the effects of race. Getting rid of it is a pipe dream.
The point Freeman was making if you read/see the entire interview wasn't that we should become ostriches on racism, it was that if EVERYONE were to stop using race as an identifier it wouldn't be an issue. So if you stop identifying me as black and I stop identifying you as white we can make some progress. However, it isn't "pretend there's no racism, click your heels three times and woosh! there it goes". That's child-like thinking and fortunately at least Freeman is brighter than that. Unfortuately, not everyone else is.
What I think Freeman misses is race is part of the fundamental human condition. Notice I said race, not racism. You all know my mantra that we need a more nuanced discussion of race than just racist or not. We are tribal by nature and will always seek to find characteristics we identify with to bond together. The key is to minimize the effects of race. Getting rid of it is a pipe dream.
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I guess I'm an odd duck because I actually seek to build friendships and relationships with people who don't necessarily have to look or think like me.
And fwiw, race isn't a bad thing in my worldview. If anything, I celebrate our differences. My wife is Asian, most of the people I work with, including my supervisors are AA. Most of my friends and neighbors are internationals or AA.
I try to take the time to appreciate other cultures. I don't always get it right because I have my own blind spots sometimes, but always willing to learn and value others.
I agree, to ignore race is to ignore fundamentally who people are. We shouldn't be looking to get rid of it, but rather to embrace it. Jmho.
Who said that's what he meant? I didn't.
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I'm in the same boat. I generally look for people different than me because it expands my experiences and worldview.
However, as a black man I'd also be lying if I said there aren't moments that I retreat to people "like" me because of stresses from working to fit in. People here know the story of my racist father in law who disowned my wife for dating black men and couldn't name all 4 of our kids without help. Obviously the reason he's racist is because I talk about it, but I digress.
There are times after time with her family in Mississippi I've needed to go spend some time with my black friends or family to decompress. I needed to be around something like me to get my compass back set North from the emotional toll of knowing I'm being looked at and sneered at behind my back. Now mind you, it's not all of them. Many of them I'm actually really close to, but there's a segment that are just terrible human beings who only care about one characteristic about me.
The same goes for professional life. I spend a lot of time with C-level executives and in board rooms. It is rare, like I can count on my fingers how many times it has happened rare, for there to be another black person in the room. There are times I need to go sit in the office with another black person at my professional level to remind myself I'm not alone. It's odd coming from someone like me that enjoys the company of "others" to sometimes need the company of people like me to recharge.
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so this happened
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GREENVILLE, S.C. (FOX Carolina) - An event banner in downtown Greenville is sparking some controversy. The banner, created by a non-profit organization hosting a Juneteenth event, reads, “an upstate celebration of freedom, unity and love,” showing an image of a white man and woman.
This controversy started with one picture of the banner circulating on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram. Since Tuesday, the photo has spread with hundreds of posts, comments and many more questions.
“I was appalled, said Greenville activist Bruce Wilson from Fighting Injustice Together. “I was saddened, I was angry.”
Wilson has hosted Juneteenth events in Greenville since 2020. Although he’s not hosting events this year, he said everyone should celebrate the holiday, as it marks the day a Union general informed the last enslaved Black Americans they were free, two years after the Emancipation Proclamation was signed..............
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GREENVILLE, S.C. (FOX Carolina) - An event banner in downtown Greenville is sparking some controversy. The banner, created by a non-profit organization hosting a Juneteenth event, reads, “an upstate celebration of freedom, unity and love,” showing an image of a white man and woman.
This controversy started with one picture of the banner circulating on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram. Since Tuesday, the photo has spread with hundreds of posts, comments and many more questions.
“I was appalled, said Greenville activist Bruce Wilson from Fighting Injustice Together. “I was saddened, I was angry.”
Wilson has hosted Juneteenth events in Greenville since 2020. Although he’s not hosting events this year, he said everyone should celebrate the holiday, as it marks the day a Union general informed the last enslaved Black Americans they were free, two years after the Emancipation Proclamation was signed..............
Organization releases statement after Juneteenth event banner spurs controversy
A Greenville Juneteenth event banner showing a white man and woman, is sparking controversy.
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On the heels of news that the Proud Boys are planning disruptive protests during the Pride month of June, the counter-extremist expert Samantha Kutner warns us that the alt-right group is specifically targeting Juneteenth celebrations as well.
In an attempt to appropriate the federal holiday celebrating the end of slavery, the Proud Boys are organizing their own event on June 17th, expanding their vitriol to not just LGBTQ discrimination but also white supremacy.
“They target everyone who doesn’t belong to their in-group,” Kutner explained to LGBTQ Nation in a recent interview. “Their extremism is framed as an assertion of their masculinity, anything that is a perceived threat to that is a target.”..........
In an attempt to appropriate the federal holiday celebrating the end of slavery, the Proud Boys are organizing their own event on June 17th, expanding their vitriol to not just LGBTQ discrimination but also white supremacy.
“They target everyone who doesn’t belong to their in-group,” Kutner explained to LGBTQ Nation in a recent interview. “Their extremism is framed as an assertion of their masculinity, anything that is a perceived threat to that is a target.”..........
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Juneteenth has been recognized as a US federal holiday since 2021 and acts as a day to celebrate the end of slavery in the country – but millions of Americans will not have the day off today, 19 June, to mark the occasion.
At least 30 states – including most recently Rhode Island and Kentucky – and the District of Columbia recognize Juneteenth as an official public holiday, according to the Pew Research Center.
Yet as the number of states to legally declare Juneteenth a holiday rises, other states continue to cling to holidays that honor the Confederacy.
Ten states – all in the American south – have at least one day commemorating the Confederacy, according to Axios, and six former Confederate states do not officially recognize Juneteenth: Florida, Mississippi, Alabama, Arkansas, South Carolina and North Carolina.
Mississippi and Alabama each celebrate three Confederate holidays – paid holidays for state employees: Confederate Memorial Day; the birthday of Jefferson Davis, the leader of the Confederacy; and Robert E Lee Day, to commemorate the leader of the Confederate army. In both states, Robert E Lee Day is also used to celebrate Martin Luther King Jr Day.……
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At least 30 states – including most recently Rhode Island and Kentucky – and the District of Columbia recognize Juneteenth as an official public holiday, according to the Pew Research Center.
Yet as the number of states to legally declare Juneteenth a holiday rises, other states continue to cling to holidays that honor the Confederacy.
Ten states – all in the American south – have at least one day commemorating the Confederacy, according to Axios, and six former Confederate states do not officially recognize Juneteenth: Florida, Mississippi, Alabama, Arkansas, South Carolina and North Carolina.
Mississippi and Alabama each celebrate three Confederate holidays – paid holidays for state employees: Confederate Memorial Day; the birthday of Jefferson Davis, the leader of the Confederacy; and Robert E Lee Day, to commemorate the leader of the Confederate army. In both states, Robert E Lee Day is also used to celebrate Martin Luther King Jr Day.……
As Juneteenth grows in US, southern states cling to Confederate holidays
At least 30 states officially celebrate end of slavery in US, but others pay employees to take day off to celebrate enslavers
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they still try to think it was not about slavery.
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I'm pretty certain Louisiana would be in that number if JBE had not been governor at the time.Juneteenth has been recognized as a US federal holiday since 2021 and acts as a day to celebrate the end of slavery in the country – but millions of Americans will not have the day off today, 19 June, to mark the occasion.
At least 30 states – including most recently Rhode Island and Kentucky – and the District of Columbia recognize Juneteenth as an official public holiday, according to the Pew Research Center.
Yet as the number of states to legally declare Juneteenth a holiday rises, other states continue to cling to holidays that honor the Confederacy.
Ten states – all in the American south – have at least one day commemorating the Confederacy, according to Axios, and six former Confederate states do not officially recognize Juneteenth: Florida, Mississippi, Alabama, Arkansas, South Carolina and North Carolina.
Mississippi and Alabama each celebrate three Confederate holidays – paid holidays for state employees: Confederate Memorial Day; the birthday of Jefferson Davis, the leader of the Confederacy; and Robert E Lee Day, to commemorate the leader of the Confederate army. In both states, Robert E Lee Day is also used to celebrate Martin Luther King Jr Day.……
As Juneteenth grows in US, southern states cling to Confederate holidays
At least 30 states officially celebrate end of slavery in US, but others pay employees to take day off to celebrate enslavers
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One of the things that I always wonder about is why the US register race at all. We have people of many different origins here but "race" appears nowhere on our official identification papers. Hair color, Eye color and similar information but not one single word regarding "race". The fact that "race" is used on official documents iHMO is one of the things that makes it easier to see "others" as different
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Its about states rights!! not Slavery!!
States right to do what? State Rights to do what?
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AUSTIN, Texas (AP) — Juneteenth celebrations have been scaled back this year due to funding shortfalls as companies and municipalities across the country reconsider their support for diversity, equity and inclusion initiatives.
Canceled federal grants and businesses moving away from so-called brand activism have hit the bottom line of parades and other events heading into Thursday’s federal holiday, which celebrates the end of slavery in the United States. The shrinking financial support coincides with many companies severing ties with LGBTQ celebrations for Pride this year and President Donald Trump’s efforts to squash DEI programs throughout the federal government.
In Denver, for example, more than a dozen companies backed out of supporting the Juneteenth Music Festival, which is one of the city’s biggest celebrations of the holiday, according to Norman Harris, executive director of JMF Corporation, which puts on the event.
“There were quite a few sponsors who pulled back their investments or let us know they couldn’t or wouldn’t be in a position to support this year," said Harris, who has overseen the event for more than a decade.
The festival, which takes place in the historically Black Five Points neighborhood, has been scaled back to one day instead of two because of the budget shortfall. It has only been able to stay afloat thanks to donations from individuals and foundations.
“Thankfully, there was a wide range of support that came when we made the announcement that the celebration is in jeopardy,” Harris said.
Juneteenth celebrates the day the last enslaved people in Texas were told they were free on June 19, 1865, two years after President Abraham Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation. The day has been celebrated by Black Americans for generations, including in Harris’ family, but became more widely celebrated after becoming a federal holiday in 2021.
After the 2020 murder of George Floyd, many companies pursued efforts to make their branding more inclusive, but it has slowed down over the past few years after some received blowback from conservatives and because many companies didn't see it as an important part of their revenue stream, said Dionne Nickerson, a professor in marketing at Emory University.............
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Canceled federal grants and businesses moving away from so-called brand activism have hit the bottom line of parades and other events heading into Thursday’s federal holiday, which celebrates the end of slavery in the United States. The shrinking financial support coincides with many companies severing ties with LGBTQ celebrations for Pride this year and President Donald Trump’s efforts to squash DEI programs throughout the federal government.
In Denver, for example, more than a dozen companies backed out of supporting the Juneteenth Music Festival, which is one of the city’s biggest celebrations of the holiday, according to Norman Harris, executive director of JMF Corporation, which puts on the event.
“There were quite a few sponsors who pulled back their investments or let us know they couldn’t or wouldn’t be in a position to support this year," said Harris, who has overseen the event for more than a decade.
The festival, which takes place in the historically Black Five Points neighborhood, has been scaled back to one day instead of two because of the budget shortfall. It has only been able to stay afloat thanks to donations from individuals and foundations.
“Thankfully, there was a wide range of support that came when we made the announcement that the celebration is in jeopardy,” Harris said.
Juneteenth celebrates the day the last enslaved people in Texas were told they were free on June 19, 1865, two years after President Abraham Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation. The day has been celebrated by Black Americans for generations, including in Harris’ family, but became more widely celebrated after becoming a federal holiday in 2021.
After the 2020 murder of George Floyd, many companies pursued efforts to make their branding more inclusive, but it has slowed down over the past few years after some received blowback from conservatives and because many companies didn't see it as an important part of their revenue stream, said Dionne Nickerson, a professor in marketing at Emory University.............
Juneteenth celebrations adapt after corporate sponsors pull support
Juneteenth celebrations have been scaled back this year due to funding shortfalls as companies and municipalities across the country reconsider their support for diversity, equity and inclusion initiatives.
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In 2021, when President Joe Biden made Juneteenth a federal holiday, it was the first many people in the country had heard of the centuries-old tradition – a 2021 Gallup poll found that 34% of Americans knew “a little” about Juneteenth, while 28% knew nothing at all about it.
In 1863, President Abraham Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation, which ended slavery in some Confederate states.
Union soldiers, including some Black soldiers who themselves were formerly enslaved, traveled around the south to announce the order.
In Galveston, Texas, it wasn’t until 19 June 1865 that people who were enslaved found out about the declaration. Though Robert E Lee had surrendered in April, people continued fighting for the lost cause for months.
Juneteenth celebrates the day on which those in Galveston found out about their freedom, but there are other states across the country, such as New York, Ohio, Mississippi and Florida, that have their own emancipation days.
While Juneteenth has become the most prominent emancipation celebration, it is not the only one.
To this day, people across the country continue to mark the day on which their ancestors found out about the end of chattel slavery.
Throughout the country, the day on which people found out about emancipation – which spanned nearly 100 years between 1783, when Massachusetts abolished slavery following a series of court challenges, and 1865, when the 13th amendment was ratified – was a jubilant occasion.
The day is variously called emancipation day, jubilee day or freedom day, depending on the locality.
“Black people are always celebrating and then they commemorate that celebration the next year, the next year, and the next year,” the historian Allison Dorsey said. “So Juneteenth is just a continuation of that process of people celebrating their emancipation.”
The signing of the emancipation proclamation is marked in a variety of ways across the country, such as through “Watch Night”, or “Freedom’s Eve”, observances, held annually on 31 December. Historically, enslaved people had traditional celebrations on 31 December, during which they would gather to worship and pray out the old year and welcome in the new year.
But the day Lincoln issued the preliminary proclamation, 22 September 1862, is also celebrated, for instance, across Appalachia and elsewhere.
In Gallia county, Ohio, it has been celebrated continuously since 1863. The celebration there is like a “homecoming”, in which people gather to remember the fight for freedom, learn history and genealogy, sing, dance and fellowship.
Another important date is 8 August, when in 1863, Andrew Johnson, the military governor of the state of Tennessee who later succeeded Lincoln as president, manumitted the people he held in bondage. Following Johnson’s act, Samuel Johnson, a formerly enslaved man, ensured that the community celebrated 8 August annually in Greenville, Tennessee.
This year’s festivities will include a block party and cookout, gospel singing, bouncy houses and a festival………
www.theguardian.com
In 1863, President Abraham Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation, which ended slavery in some Confederate states.
Union soldiers, including some Black soldiers who themselves were formerly enslaved, traveled around the south to announce the order.
In Galveston, Texas, it wasn’t until 19 June 1865 that people who were enslaved found out about the declaration. Though Robert E Lee had surrendered in April, people continued fighting for the lost cause for months.
Juneteenth celebrates the day on which those in Galveston found out about their freedom, but there are other states across the country, such as New York, Ohio, Mississippi and Florida, that have their own emancipation days.
While Juneteenth has become the most prominent emancipation celebration, it is not the only one.
To this day, people across the country continue to mark the day on which their ancestors found out about the end of chattel slavery.
Throughout the country, the day on which people found out about emancipation – which spanned nearly 100 years between 1783, when Massachusetts abolished slavery following a series of court challenges, and 1865, when the 13th amendment was ratified – was a jubilant occasion.
The day is variously called emancipation day, jubilee day or freedom day, depending on the locality.
“Black people are always celebrating and then they commemorate that celebration the next year, the next year, and the next year,” the historian Allison Dorsey said. “So Juneteenth is just a continuation of that process of people celebrating their emancipation.”
The signing of the emancipation proclamation is marked in a variety of ways across the country, such as through “Watch Night”, or “Freedom’s Eve”, observances, held annually on 31 December. Historically, enslaved people had traditional celebrations on 31 December, during which they would gather to worship and pray out the old year and welcome in the new year.
But the day Lincoln issued the preliminary proclamation, 22 September 1862, is also celebrated, for instance, across Appalachia and elsewhere.
In Gallia county, Ohio, it has been celebrated continuously since 1863. The celebration there is like a “homecoming”, in which people gather to remember the fight for freedom, learn history and genealogy, sing, dance and fellowship.
Another important date is 8 August, when in 1863, Andrew Johnson, the military governor of the state of Tennessee who later succeeded Lincoln as president, manumitted the people he held in bondage. Following Johnson’s act, Samuel Johnson, a formerly enslaved man, ensured that the community celebrated 8 August annually in Greenville, Tennessee.
This year’s festivities will include a block party and cookout, gospel singing, bouncy houses and a festival………
Juneteenth is the most widely known US emancipation celebration – but it’s not the only one
The federal holiday recognizes when enslaved Black people in Galveston, Texas found out they were free. But New York, Ohio, Mississippi and Florida have their own freedom days
I'll be honest. I was 44 in 2021, and it was the first time I had ever heard of it. Born and raised in Indiana, never heard it mentioned once until then.
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Hegseth Recommended a 'Passive Approach' to Honoring Juneteenth
Trump’s Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth told the Pentagon to go light on commemorating Juneteenth, the holiday marking the end of slavery.
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Juneteenth at the Trump White House shows what a difference a year makes
The politics of Juneteenth today can probably be best understood by what's happening or not happening at the White House.
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