FBI official under investigation after allegedly altering document in 2016 Russia probe (DOJ IG Report thread) (6 Viewers)

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    Washington (CNN) —
    An FBI official is under criminal investigation after allegedly altering a document related to 2016 surveillance of a Trump campaign adviser, several people briefed on the matter told CNN.

    The possibility of a substantive change to an investigative document is likely to fuel accusations from President Donald Trump and his allies that the FBI committed wrongdoing in its investigation of connections between Russian election meddling and the Trump campaign.

    The finding is expected to be part of Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz's review of the FBI's effort to obtain warrants under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act on Carter Page, a former Trump campaign aide. Horowitz will release the report next month.

    Horowitz turned over evidence on the allegedly altered document to John Durham, the federal prosecutor appointed early this year by Attorney General William Barr to conduct a broad investigation of intelligence gathered for the Russia probe by the CIA and other agencies, including the FBI. The altered document is also at least one focus of Durham's criminal probe.

    Terrible if true. Trump will obviously seize upon this.
     

    “I have the utmost respect for the mission of the Office of Inspector General and the comprehensive work that went into the report prepared by Mr. Horowitz and his staff. However, our investigation is not limited to developing information from within component parts of the Justice Department. Our investigation has included developing information from other persons and entities, both in the U.S. and outside of the U.S. Based on the evidence collected to date, and while our investigation is ongoing, last month we advised the Inspector General that we do not agree with some of the report’s conclusions as to predication and how the FBI case was opened.”

    I wonder exactly what Durham disagrees with about how the FBI investigation was opened. I'm sure the critics will try to paint Durham's work as something that shouldn't be trusted or that Putin is somehow involved.
     
    I'm sure the critics will try to paint Durham's work as something that shouldn't be trusted or that Putin is somehow involved.

    You mean the same way that some people are now doing with the IG report that didn't live up to their hopes and dreams.

    Nothing substantive is going to be found. The outcome of the Russia investigation will be unchanged.
     
    You mean the same way that some people are now doing with the IG report that didn't live up to their hopes and dreams.

    Nothing substantive is going to be found. The outcome of the Russia investigation will be unchanged.
    Are you talking about the news headlines or did you actually read some of the report? From what I've read so far there is a lot of concerning information in the IG report.
     
    Durham seems to know exactly what conclusion he's expected to produce. Can't say I'm surprised much. From the moment Barr announced his investigation, I pretty much assumed that it was probably an investigation with a predetermined result. Haven't been disappointed so far.
     
    Durham seems to know exactly what conclusion he's expected to produce. Can't say I'm surprised much. From the moment Barr announced his investigation, I pretty much assumed that it was probably an investigation with a predetermined result. Haven't been disappointed so far.
    Do you think Durham will make up evidence? Considering the IG had no power to compell testimony and he didn't ask for any documentation from other agencies, other than a few state department documents, I think it's perfectly reasonable to have someone investigate it that can compell testimony and get information from other agencies.

    Glenn Simpson of Fusion GPS hired Steele for the dossier and he declined the interview from the IG. How complete do you think the IG report could be without his testimony?
     
    Are you talking about the news headlines or did you actually read some of the report? From what I've read so far there is a lot of concerning information in the IG report.

    Nothing materially impacted the results of the Russia investigation.

    At worst it's like what Mark Furhman did in the OJ investigation. It may have cost them a conviction, but it didn't mean that OJ didn't do it.

    The public shouldn't be a defense attorney hoping their guy doesn't get convicted. Hanging on to these technicalities makes you just that.
     
    Do you think Durham will make up evidence? Considering the IG had no power to compell testimony and he didn't ask for any documentation from other agencies, other than a few state department documents, I think it's perfectly reasonable to have someone investigate it that can compell testimony and get information from other agencies.

    Glenn Simpson of Fusion GPS hired Steele for the dossier and he declined the interview from the IG. How complete do you think the IG report could be without his testimony?

    I don't think he'll make up evidence, at least I have no reason or basis to think that he would. But I do think the conclusions he draws from the information he gathers will be intended to satisfy a certain audience of 2 (Barr and Trump). Durham knows why he was assigned to this task and he's not going to disappoint, from all indications.

    Why would he release that statement now? The only reason is to not let it get ingrained in the public psyche that FBI Russia investigation was legit. Just to introduce doubt and allow the suspicion to continue. Just look at how tightly you're holding on to hope.
     
    Nothing materially impacted the results of the Russia investigation.

    At worst it's like what Mark Furhman did in the OJ investigation. It may have cost them a conviction, but it didn't mean that OJ didn't do it.
    Those darn technicalities like the 4th Amendment. We should just do away with them because everyone should trust that law enforcement always does the right thing.
     
    Those darn technicalities like the 4th Amendment. We should just do away with them because everyone should trust that law enforcement always does the right thing.

    No, as i've said, people who violated policy or law should be held accountable.

    The outcome of the investigation will not be impacted. There isn't anything in the IG Trump that helps Trump.

    But go ahead and mount a defense for your client though. Maybe you can get the Judge to throw out the case. Even guilty people deserve a defense.
     
    Not surprising, but now it's known that Schiff lied when he said they "made only narrow use" of the Steele dossier in regards to the FISA application.


     
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    No, as i've said, people who violated policy or law should be held accountable.

    The outcome of the investigation will not be impacted. There isn't anything in the IG Trump that helps Trump.

    But go ahead and mount a defense for your client though. Maybe you can get the Judge to throw out the case. Even guilty people deserve a defense.
    I am lost. You are arguing that violations of procedure cannot affect the outcomes of investigations??????
     
    Why not read the IG report and post your own thoughts and reflections with your own excerpts, instead of posting random tweets from a few people, where they're making claims in which all context is lost with random excerpts that we're supposed to assume are coming from the report.

    It's rather unclear what all these tweets are supposed to be proving/disproving. They're just cherry picked commentary that we're supposed to adopt and agree with or something.
     
    Why not read the IG report and post your own thoughts and reflections with your own excerpts, instead of posting random tweets from a few people, where they're making claims in which all context is lost with random excerpts that we're supposed to assume are coming from the report.

    It's rather unclear what all these tweets are supposed to be proving/disproving. They're just cherry picked commentary that we're supposed to adopt and agree with or something.
    I've read some of the IG report already. Those tweets I posted have screenshots of the relevant portions of the IG report. I'm not planning on reading the entire report. Are you? If you think those screenshots aren't accurate or cherry picked then point out specifically what's wrong. Do you have information that would refute those parts of the IG report I posted?
     

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