Danny Penny Acquitted (1 Viewer)

[Scoutster]

I agree with the juries decision.

Daniel Penny found not guilty in chokehold death of Jordan Neely

The jury acquitted Penny of criminally negligent homicide after previously deadlocking on the more serious charge of manslaughter.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Texan1211]

so you're saying he had to strangle the guy for six minutes?????

I suggest some course in English if that is what you think you read, because absolutely none of the words in my post match that idiocy.
I am sure you heard all the testimony and came to a different conclusion than the 12 who actually decided the case.

 

[Texan1211]

He's right. It was an improper choke hold. The correct method is to grab the back of the shirt and place the first
two knuckles of each hand against the carotid and jugular. The opponent will go to sleep in 10 seconds. You go
for the throat you'll be disqualified in competition.

If you read my post, then surely you noticed the exact words I responded to, since I quoted them. Your post isn't in any relation to mine.

 

[Texan1211]

The defense successfully appealed to the jury's fears, capitalizing on the discomfort and anxiety often felt when encountering a mentally unstable individual—particularly a mentally unstable Black man. Unfortunately, this dynamic has been reaffirmed time and again, with right-wing sources amplifying these fears, demonizing those who are different, and encouraging gun ownership as a response. If the individual in question had been a mentally challenged white man, the outcome might have been very different. At its core, this case reflects a pervasive fear: fear of those who look different and behave in ways society deems unexpected or unsettling.

AH, the old "The Justic System is broken" gambit.

 

[Dragon]

AH, the old "The Justic System is broken" gambit.

Prejudice is undeniably a significant factor, and you know it. Yet, your one-liners and surface-level responses fail to address the core issues raised in this discussion. How about fully engaging with what people are saying and participating meaningfully? Do you agree that people are more likely to act aggressively toward mentally challenged individuals—even when those individuals haven’t posed any physical threat or initiated an attack?

 

[Texan1211]

Prejudice is undeniably a significant factor, and you know it. Yet, your one-liners and surface-level responses fail to address the core issues raised in this discussion. How about fully engaging with what people are saying and participating meaningfully? Do you agree that people are more likely to act aggressively toward mentally challenged individuals—even when those individuals haven’t posed any physical threat or initiated an attack?

Prejudice is undeniably a significant factor, and you know it. Yet, your one-liners and surface-level responses fail to address the core issues raised in this discussion. How about fully engaging with what people are saying and participating meaningfully? Do you agree that people are more likely to act aggressively toward mentally challenged individuals—even when those individuals haven’t posed any physical threat or initiated an attack?

Witnesses testified they were afraid of Neely.
I trust that justice was done.

 

[Dragon]

Witnesses testified they were afraid of Neely.
I trust that justice was done.

So we ate back to this
"At its core, this case reflects a pervasive fear: fear of those who look different and behave in ways society deems unexpected or unsettling."

So, is reacting out of fear—without being in actual danger—enough reason or justification to kill someone? How many times has that same excuse been used to justify the killing of unarmed people? You’ve just proven my point entirely.

 

[Texan1211]

So we ate back to this
"At its core, this case reflects a pervasive fear: fear of those who look different and behave in ways society deems unexpected or unsettling."

So, is reacting out of fear—without being in actual danger—enough reason or justification to kill someone? How many times has that same excuse been used to justify the killing of unarmed people? You’ve just proven my point entirely.

Justice was served, The fact some don't like it doesn't matter a bit.

 

[Dragon]

Justice was served, The fact some don't like it doesn't matter a bit.

Another one-liner. How can it be considered justice to kill someone simply because they scare you? That’s not justice—it’s just an excuse, the same one we hear over and over when unarmed people are killed. Tell me why you think that justice was done? Where is the justice for the unarmed man who got killed ?

 

[Texan1211]

Another one-liner. How can it be considered justice to kill someone simply because they scare you? That’s not justice—it’s just an excuse, the same one we hear over and over when unarmed people are killed. Tell me why you think that justice was done? Where is the justice for the unarmed man who got killed ?

Gee, seems weird that so many who have been insisting on "We are a nation of laws and no man is above the law" suddenly think every trial not going as they wish means the justice system is broken.
Unless you sat on the jury, you have no room whatsoever to criticize the jury's decision.

 

[Dragon]

Gee, seems weird that so many who have been insisting on "We are a nation of laws and no man is above the law" suddenly think every trial not going as they wish means the justice system is broken.
Unless you sat on the jury, you have no room whatsoever to criticize the jury's decision.

You never answered my question. Should it be legal to kill an unarmed man because his is mentally ill and his behaviour scares you ? Even when he does not attack you?

 

[RobF]

Gee, seems weird that so many who have been insisting on "We are a nation of laws and no man is above the law" suddenly think every trial not going as they wish means the justice system is broken.
Unless you sat on the jury, you have no room whatsoever to criticize the jury's decision.

Do you have this energy for all jury verdicts?

I'm thinking probably not, unless you think the central park five were guilty and OJ was innocent.

 

[Texan1211]

You never answered my question. Should it be legal to kill an unarmed man because his is mentally ill and his behaviour scares you ? Even when he does not attack you?

Murder, as I am sure you know, is illegal. Credible threats can be made into self-defense.

 

[Texan1211]

Do you have this energy for all jury verdicts?

I respect the process. While I may not like some verdicts, I don't indict the justice system for what I personally don't like.

 

[Dragon]

If prejudice leads someone to believe another person is a threat, does that give them the right to kill? That’s essentially what the verdict suggests, and if that’s the case, something is deeply wrong with the justice system. Injustice must always be called out. Otherwise the law would be a "licence to kill"

 

[Texan1211]

If prejudice leads someone to believe another person is a threat, does that give them the right to kill? That’s essentially what the verdict suggests, and if that’s the case, something is deeply wrong with the justice system. Injustice must always be called out. Otherwise the law would be a "licence to kill"

Get the laws changed if you don't like the ones we have. Change the whole justice system if you feel it is unjust and broken, complaining here to me won't do a thing.

 

[Dragon]

I asked for your opinion, but you repeatedly refused to provide an answer. Should the mere fact that someone has a mental disorder and scares you justify killing them, even if they have not posed any actual threat to your safety?

 

[Texan1211]

I asked for your opinion, but you repeatedly refused to provide an answer. Should the mere fact that someone has a mental disorder and scares you justify killing them, even if they have not posed any actual threat to your safety?

You asking dumb questions doesn't mean they warrant answers.

 

[Optimus Prime]

You asking dumb questions doesn't mean they warrant answers.

Didn’t seem like a dumb question to me

What exactly did Neely do to deserve getting choked to death?