Could a "blue wave" strike in November? (1 Viewer)

[Bayouboy]

I know we have all become accustomed to chaos and anarchy in government since Trump took power in 2016, but there hasn't been an overwhelming push back due to those antics. Trump narrowly lost in 2020 and the Republicans took back the House. So support is still there (surprisingly). But with the clown show in the House of late, I can see the public pushing back at the ballot box and moving "blue" in November. There's no way regular Americans are looking at Mike Johnson, MTG, and the rest of those clowns and not thinking we need a change. I know the Presidential race will be close, but I think the Democrats will take back the House and maybe gain a few seats in the Senate. Will America make a statement???

 

[samiam5211]

It is a really tough year for Democrats regarding the Senate.

If the Dems take the house, it will mean Biden wins, so lets hope that happens.

I think if we can get women to turn out at 75% it would happen.

 

[Saint by the Bay]

I think it's unlikely because of how gerrymandered things are. It's hard for there to be significant change in the House.

I think the Republican lunacy may allow Dems to hold the Senate in a tough year, but even that is tough.

 

[LovesMusic7360]

I know we have all become accustomed to chaos and anarchy in government since Trump took power in 2016, but there hasn't been an overwhelming push back due to those antics. Trump narrowly lost in 2020 and the Republicans took back the House. So support is still there (surprisingly). But with the clown show in the House of late, I can see the public pushing back at the ballot box and moving "blue" in November. There's no way regular Americans are looking at Mike Johnson, MTG, and the rest of those clowns and not thinking we need a change. I know the Presidential race will be close, but I think the Democrats will take back the House and maybe gain a few seats in the Senate. Will America make a statement???

The overwhelming vast majority of women are not going to vote for the man who said he's proud of putting 3 judges on the Supreme Court to overturn Roe V. Wade. Nor are those women going to vote for an anti choice politician.

Women are super, super pissed off.

They aren't just angry. They aren't just ticked off.

They are super pissed off.

Women have been out registering men. In some places up to 40% more than men.

If you think that 2018 was a blue wave, just wait until November.

Women are coming for the republicans in November and it's not going to end well for republicans.

 

[Heathen]

I don't see it happening. At least not any 'blue wave'.

If there's any saving grace for Democrats, it's that Trump is suffering massive court losses right now with more coming (March 25th - hush money to the pr0n star)

 

[J-DONK]

It's hard to tell. The normal polling vs turnout relationship appears to be changing. A lot of conservatives think it's because of Trump's anti-mail in ballot stance. Also, Republicans lost college educated voters, and traded them for more blue collar rural voters who vote less frequently. You also have the abortion headwinds.

Conseratives are deadset on eternal gridlock. If Democrats do get a majority in both, and the presidency we are getting one, or two bills a year.

 

[LovesMusic7360]

I don't see it happening. At least not any 'blue wave'.

If there's any saving grace for Democrats, it's that Trump is suffering massive court losses right now with more coming (March 25th - hush money to the pr0n star)

If you could see my email inbox you would not post what you posted above.

When trump got elected, women started to seriously organize. By the time 2018 rolled around, women were ready.

We all know what happened in 2018. The reason for that, women.

The reason why trump lost again in 2020, women.

The reason why republicans lost in 2022, women.

The reason why republicans lost in 2023, women.

I have not seen any analysis of the special elections that have happened thus far in 2024 but I wouldn't be surprised if it was women who caused democrats to win the special elections this year.

The reason why trump and republicans will lose in November, women.

You don't understand what's happening with women right now. Women are super, super pissed off. They have lost their freedom, liberty and body autonomy.

Many have been forced to nearly die resulting in permanently losing their fertility so they will never be able to become pregnant again. Those who had the money to escape their red state to save their lives and fertility, do. They are the lucky ones.

Then there's the fact that OBs have been leaving red states in droves. Maternity wards, inducing neonatal wards, have been closed in hospitals in red states. Because they don't have the OBs. They left and no one will come take their place. It's caused big health care deserts in red states to become huge. Women who want to have a healthy pregnancy and birth, can't because the doctor left and no one came to replace them.

Women are now suing their state. It's happening in Texas and I think the other one is Idaho, I would be wrong about that. Women are sickened that they have to go beg politicians and judges for the health care they should have a right to have but are denied because they "aren't sick enough." Those are the exact words from Texas AG ken paxton.

When a republican in a red state tried to get legislation to put a stop to the suffering and torture of women, all the other republicans in that state congress said no and the bill died. It happened in Texas too. A court ordered the republicans to write legislation to put a stop to the torture and suffering. The republicans in Texas refused. So they want to cause this suffering. When they have an opportunity to put a stop to it, they refuse to do so.

You might want to join a woman's group and listen to what they are saying. Read the emails they send out.

Women are super pissed off, they are very organized and they are coming for republicans in November. It won't end well for the republicans.

Women are the majority voters in the USA.

 

[CoolBrees]

I mean, every year is a Blue Wave if you look at votes tallied. Democrats consistently win the popular vote in states they have a huge minority in because of gerrymandering. Wisconsin says hello.

Biden won by just over 7 million votes. That is larger than 35 states by population.

That is an arse kicking.

But because dirt gets to vote in the US, Wyoming has as many Senators as California.

 

[faceman]

I mean, every year is a Blue Wave if you look at votes tallied. Democrats consistently win the popular vote in states they have a huge minority in because of gerrymandering. Wisconsin says hello.

Biden won by just over 7 million votes. That is larger than 35 states by population.

That is an arse kicking.

But because dirt gets to vote in the US, Wyoming has as many Senators as California.

Yep, the senate is the most important chamber. You can bet your home Wyo,Ms,TX,Ala,Tn. etc. will be
electing 2 Republican senators.

 

[Optimus Prime]

I mean, every year is a Blue Wave if you look at votes tallied. Democrats consistently win the popular vote in states they have a huge minority in because of gerrymandering. Wisconsin says hello.

Biden won by just over 7 million votes. That is larger than 35 states by population.

That is an arse kicking.

But because dirt gets to vote in the US, Wyoming has as many Senators as California.

Bringing this up to the the DC statehood thread and the real reason it isn't a state is that it would add 2 Democratic Senators

I know that Bill Maher has been banging this drum for years

Population of North & South Dakota combined (as of 2019) - 1,646,721

Population of California (2019) - 39.51 Million

Number of Senators for North & South Dakota - 4

Number of Senators for California - 2

This seems to be more than a little imbalanced wouldn't you say?

Should the number of Senators be tied to population (one senator per X number of people)?

Tied to party affiliation or votes?

11 million Californians voted for Biden, but 6 million voted for Trump which is more than he got in Texas

Keep it as it is?

I don't know the answer but this is a huge discrepancy - and I think it's nationwide

Seems that I read somewhere the number of people all the democratic Senators represented vs the Republicans and there was a sizeable difference

Senators

Bringing this up to the the DC statehood thread and the real reason it isn't a state is that it would add 2 Democratic SenatorsI know that Bill Maher has been banging this drum for yearsPopulation of North & South Dakota combined (as of 2019) - 1,646,721Population of California (2019) -...

madaboutpolitics.com

 

[faceman]

Senators

Bringing this up to the the DC statehood thread and the real reason it isn't a state is that it would add 2 Democratic SenatorsI know that Bill Maher has been banging this drum for yearsPopulation of North & South Dakota combined (as of 2019) - 1,646,721Population of California (2019) -...

madaboutpolitics.com

I really wish the POTUS was elected by popular vote this year. Trump would be curb stomped and
no longer a threat. That said,I believe our founding fathers got it right,and let us keep it like it is.

 

[LovesMusic7360]

I really wish the POTUS was elected by popular vote this year. Trump would be curb stomped and
no longer a threat. That said,I believe our founding fathers got it right,and let us keep it like it is.

The revolution was fought partly because of taxation without representation.

That's happening to the people in DC and all the other US territories. They pay US taxes but they don't have representation. They allow a person in the House for DC and some territories but the representatives can't vote on any bill or issue. They can talk but they can't actually vote.

None of them have representation in the senate.

That is so not what America is about.

I disagree with you. If we are going to take their taxes, they should get the same representation as the rest of us.

The ONLY reason why they don't have that representation is because republicans know that most of them will elect democrats and the last thing republicans want is to have to work even more to have a majority in our government.

That is so not what our constitutional democratic republic is about. It's so not self governing of the people, by the people and for the people.

 

[Heathen]

If you could see my email inbox you would not post what you posted above.

When trump got elected, women started to seriously organize. By the time 2018 rolled around, women were ready.

We all know what happened in 2018. The reason for that, women.

The reason why trump lost again in 2020, women.

The reason why republicans lost in 2022, women.

The reason why republicans lost in 2023, women.

I have not seen any analysis of the special elections that have happened thus far in 2024 but I wouldn't be surprised if it was women who caused democrats to win the special elections this year.

The reason why trump and republicans will lose in November, women.

You don't understand what's happening with women right now. Women are super, super pissed off. They have lost their freedom, liberty and body autonomy.

Many have been forced to nearly die resulting in permanently losing their fertility so they will never be able to become pregnant again. Those who had the money to escape their red state to save their lives and fertility, do. They are the lucky ones.

Then there's the fact that OBs have been leaving red states in droves. Maternity wards, inducing neonatal wards, have been closed in hospitals in red states. Because they don't have the OBs. They left and no one will come take their place. It's caused big health care deserts in red states to become huge. Women who want to have a healthy pregnancy and birth, can't because the doctor left and no one came to replace them.

Women are now suing their state. It's happening in Texas and I think the other one is Idaho, I would be wrong about that. Women are sickened that they have to go beg politicians and judges for the health care they should have a right to have but are denied because they "aren't sick enough." Those are the exact words from Texas AG ken paxton.

When a republican in a red state tried to get legislation to put a stop to the suffering and torture of women, all the other republicans in that state congress said no and the bill died. It happened in Texas too. A court ordered the republicans to write legislation to put a stop to the torture and suffering. The republicans in Texas refused. So they want to cause this suffering. When they have an opportunity to put a stop to it, they refuse to do so.

You might want to join a woman's group and listen to what they are saying. Read the emails they send out.

Women are super pissed off, they are very organized and they are coming for republicans in November. It won't end well for the republicans.

Women are the majority voters in the USA.

This country has a history of subjugating women. I'm not saying it won't happen, but I am skeptical to believe that suddenly it will - especially with how poorly Biden is polling right now.

That being said, I'd love it if I were wrong.

 

[LA 2 L.A.]

The revolution was fought partly because of taxation without representation.

That's happening to the people in DC and all the other US territories. They pay US taxes but they don't have representation. They allow a person in the House for DC and some territories but the representatives can't vote on any bill or issue. They can talk but they can't actually vote.

None of them have representation in the senate.

That is so not what America is about.

I disagree with you. If we are going to take their taxes, they should get the same representation as the rest of us.

The ONLY reason why they don't have that representation is because republicans know that most of them will elect democrats and the last thing republicans want is to have to work even more to have a majority in our government.

That is so not what our constitutional democratic republic is about. It's so not self governing of the people, by the people and for the people.

The Constitution was set up to protect us from the threat of both tyranny by a majority and tyranny by a minority.

The Senate is setup to protect us from tyranny by a majority.

The House was setup to protect us from tyranny by a minority and it was working as planned until the Reapportionment Act of 1929 which froze the number of House seats at 435 seats. The number of House seats was supposed to increase and decrease relative to the population. It was never supposed to be a fixed number of seats.

The House is supposed to have nearly the same number of people represented by each seat, but freezing it at 435 has created significant under and over representation by seat. The end result is that a minority of Americans have more representation in the House they than should, so the House's protection against tyranny by a minority is gone.

This also gives a minority of Americans more influence over presidential elections than they should have.

The Reapportionment Act of 1929 can be repealed or amended without a Constitutional amendment. If the seats in the House all represented the same number of people, it would be nearly impossible for a president to win an election without also winning the popular vote. Additionally, it would be more difficult to effectively gerrymander districts to the advantage of one party which would lead to more equal and equitable representation in Congress.

The most important thing to push for is the repealing or amending of the Reapportionment Act of 1929 to make every seat in the House represent the same number of people again, within less than a 1% variance. That would solve the problem and it's a more obtainable goal than trying to get a Constitutional amendment passed.

The protection against tyranny by a majority that the Senate provides is important and should stay that way.

 

[J-DONK]

The Constitution was set up to protect us from the threat of both tyranny by a majority and tyranny by a minority.

The Senate is setup to protect us from tyranny by a majority.

The House was setup to protect us from tyranny by a minority and it was working as planned until the Reapportionment Act of 1929 which froze the number of House seats at 435 seats. The number of House seats was supposed to increase and decrease relative to the population. It was never supposed to be a fixed number of seats.

The House is supposed to have nearly the same number of people represented by each seat, but freezing it at 435 has created significant under and over representation by seat. The end result is that a minority of Americans have more representation in the House they than should, so the House's protection against tyranny by a minority is gone.

This also gives a minority of Americans more influence over presidential elections than they should have.

The Reapportionment Act of 1929 can be repealed or amended without a Constitutional amendment. If the seats in the House all represented the same number of people, it would be nearly impossible for a president to win an election without also winning the popular vote. Additionally, it would be more difficult to effectively gerrymander districts to the advantage of one party which would lead to more equal and equitable representation in Congress.

The most important thing to push for is the repealing or amending of the Reapportionment Act of 1929 to make every seat in the House represent the same number of people again, within less than a 1% variance. That would solve the problem and it's a more obtainable goal than trying to get a Constitutional amendment passed.

The protection against tyranny by a majority that the Senate provides is important and should stay that way.

This dovetails into one of the biggest criticisms of the early Obama presidency. For all the talk about they only had 60 days with a supermajority, etc. Long lasting structural changes like this should have been ready to be passed immediately.

The appeal, and replacement has a name as well:

Wyoming Rule - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[LA 2 L.A.]

This dovetails into one of the biggest criticisms of the early Obama presidency. For all the talk about they only had 60 days with a supermajority, etc. Long lasting structural changes like this should have been ready to be passed immediately.

The appeal, and replacement has a name as well:

Wyoming Rule - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The Wyoming rule is one good way of doing it and is the only drafted proposal that I'm aware of. It strikes a good balance between equal representation and not creating a crazy amount of new seats in the House.

I agree on the criticism of Obama. He could have done so much more that a near super majority of Americans support. He did a lot of good things, but there was so much more he had the ability to accomplish and he chose not to.

 

[LovesMusic7360]

This country has a history of subjugating women. I'm not saying it won't happen, but I am skeptical to believe that suddenly it will - especially with how poorly Biden is polling right now.

That being said, I'd love it if I were wrong.

Yes this nation has a very long history of subjugating women.

However, women have a long history of fighting back.

Especially in the 20th century. Now, women have the vote and a lot of power.

When trump was elected women seriously organized and the elections since then are the result. Republicans have lost every election since 2018 because of women.

Women aren't going to take this and women are super pissed off. Women are going to vote in droves. If you think women were coming out of the woodwork to vote in the last several elections, just wait for November, women are going to come after republicans and it's so not going to end well for republicans.

Just wait and watch. Meanwhile VOTE.

 

[Heathen]

Yes this nation has a very long history of subjugating women.

However, women have a long history of fighting back.

Especially in the 20th century. Now, women have the vote and a lot of power.

When trump was elected women seriously organized and the elections since them are the result.

Women aren't going to take this and women are super pissed off. Women are going to vote in droves. If you think women were coming out of the woodwork to vote in the last several elections, just wait for November, women are going to come after republicans and it's so not going to end well for republicans.

That'd be great. Again, I'm for it. Just skeptical based on traditional voter turnout. We will see!

Just wait and watch. Meanwhile VOTE.

Of course.