CNN whistleblower (1 Viewer)

[Lazybones]

I am seeing some articles about a CNN whistleblower. My sources are only one sided, so I am a little skeptical of the validity.
However, apparently project Veritas has a whistleblower who wore a hidden camera to work.
The accusation is that CNN has been running their news with a tad of bias. (No surprise here for some of us) We will see how this plays out.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

CNN is a left wing biased media source willing to make up lies about the president.

Can you please show me in the videos where someone at CNN admits to making up lies?

 

[Lazybones]

We can start with post 9 in this thread from jrad, post 11 from wars and 16 from crosswatt. That is just page 1

 

[cuddlemonkey]

We can start with post 9 in this thread from jrad, post 11 from wars and 16 from crosswatt. That is just page 1

Just to clarify: is this a response to me when I asked this:

Can you please show me in the videos where someone at CNN admits to making up lies?

 

[Lazybones]

Just to clarify: is this a response to me when I asked this:

The project Veritas video is also linked in this thread.

 

[V Chip]

Just for fun and comparison, let’s see what MediaBiasFactCheck says about CNN and Fox News:





That’s similar, but CNN makes out better in all areas. Its weird that people who’ve been ok with Fox News calling itself fair and balanced for years now have a hardon for cable news/entertainment networks having to disclose any biases up front. CNN is left biased for opinion/editorial, left-center for news, and mostly factual. Fox is strongly right-biased for opinion/editorial, only Mixed for news, and a questionable source and mixed for factual reporting. Was Project Veritas interested in showing something about Fox? Of course not.

 

[JRad]

Just to clarify: is this a response to me when I asked this:

None of said CNN makes anything up. We said CNN is an obvious left leaning source.

CNN isn’t known to report lies.

 

[Lazybones]

Just for fun and comparison, let’s see what MediaBiasFactCheck says about CNN and Fox News:





That similar, but CNN makes out better in all areas. Its weird that people who’ve been ok with Fox News calling itself fair and balanced for years now have a hardon for cable news/entertainment networks having to disclose any biases up front. CNN is left biased for opinion/editorial, left-center for news, and mostly factual. Fox is strongly right-biased for opinion/editorial, only Mixed for news, and a questionable source and mixed for factual reporting. Was Project Veritas interested in showing something about Fox? Of course not.

If you would like to talk about the bias of Fox, please start another thread. Post the insider video of Fox making the claims that CNN did. Until then......

 

[cuddlemonkey]

The project Veritas video is also linked in this thread.

Can you please answer me with a yes or no in response to my question? I would like to continue this conversation, but I can't do that unless I know that we are talking about the same thing.

To reiterate: When you ask this

We can start with post 9 in this thread from jrad, post 11 from wars and 16 from crosswatt. That is just page 1

Are you responding to this?

Can you please show me in the videos where someone at CNN admits to making up lies?

 

[Lazybones]

Bias = lies. Unbiased = truth.
Definition of Bias


2.
a. A preference or an inclination, especially one that inhibits impartial judgment.
b. An unfair act or policy stemming from prejudice.

3. A statistical sampling or testing error caused by systematically favoring some outcomes over others.

 

[V Chip]

If you would like to talk about the bias of Fox, please start another thread. Post the insider video of Fox making the claims that CNN did. Until then......

What claims did CNN make?

It’s reasonable to question why the self same people who were fine or even denied biases at one network are going moist over scurrilous allegations about another’s biases.

 

[V Chip]

BTW you can link to other posts in the thread by holding down or right clicking the number in the post (or doing multi-quote):

CNN whistleblower

I am seeing some articles about a CNN whistleblower. My sources are only one sided, so I am a little skeptical of the validity. However, apparently project Veritas has a whistleblower who wore a hidden camera to work. The accusation is that CNN has been running their news with a tad of bias...

madaboutpolitics.com

CNN whistleblower

I am seeing some articles about a CNN whistleblower. My sources are only one sided, so I am a little skeptical of the validity. However, apparently project Veritas has a whistleblower who wore a hidden camera to work. The accusation is that CNN has been running their news with a tad of bias...

madaboutpolitics.com

CNN whistleblower

I am seeing some articles about a CNN whistleblower. My sources are only one sided, so I am a little skeptical of the validity. However, apparently project Veritas has a whistleblower who wore a hidden camera to work. The accusation is that CNN has been running their news with a tad of bias...

madaboutpolitics.com

We needed a whistleblower to tell us CNN has left bias? Or is there more to it I'm not catching?

Huh? I haven't posted yet...

But a slight left bias in news, a larger left bias in editorial, but a huge bias for sensationalism for CNN shouldn't shock anyone.

It is like saying you'll get wet standing in the rain.

They could have just talked to a CNN viewer... lol.

My biggest issue is that we have reached full on crazy town where anything that isn't near worship of the current oval office occupant is seen as "biased" or "partisan".

Doing the math, the vast majority of the people working at professional news organizations attended a journalism school somewhere, probably at a large university. Educated urban people in general overwhelming lean progressive in their politics. So 2+2=4 here, and there is almost certainly bias in the CNN news room. And the MSNBC news room. And the CBS news room. And for all intents and purposes, the Fox news room. Minus the pundits paid to not lean progressive.

I think this is a boogyman that just isn't really the thing that they are often painted as.

 

[Lazybones]

BTW you can link to other posts in the thread by holding down or right clicking the number in the post (or doing multi-quote):

CNN whistleblower

I am seeing some articles about a CNN whistleblower. My sources are only one sided, so I am a little skeptical of the validity. However, apparently project Veritas has a whistleblower who wore a hidden camera to work. The accusation is that CNN has been running their news with a tad of bias...

madaboutpolitics.com

CNN whistleblower

I am seeing some articles about a CNN whistleblower. My sources are only one sided, so I am a little skeptical of the validity. However, apparently project Veritas has a whistleblower who wore a hidden camera to work. The accusation is that CNN has been running their news with a tad of bias...

madaboutpolitics.com

CNN whistleblower

I am seeing some articles about a CNN whistleblower. My sources are only one sided, so I am a little skeptical of the validity. However, apparently project Veritas has a whistleblower who wore a hidden camera to work. The accusation is that CNN has been running their news with a tad of bias...

madaboutpolitics.com

ok.

 

[LA - L.A.]

CNN is a left wing biased media source willing to make up lies about the president.

There was consensus on the first part that CNN is biased toward the left. It was refuted by most that CNN makes up lies, let alone about the president. So only half of what O' Keefe said was proven and agreed to by most people.

Since you're keeping score, that's only a half point each way. No one gets a full point for that one.

 

[LA - L.A.]

We can start with post 9 in this thread from jrad, post 11 from wars and 16 from crosswatt. That is just page 1

Two of those posts show people agreeing with CNN being biased, 16 doesn't really show that. None of them show people agreeing that CNN makes stuff up about Trump or in general.

 

[LA - L.A.]

Bias = lies. Unbiased = truth.
Definition of Bias


2.
a. A preference or an inclination, especially one that inhibits impartial judgment.
b. An unfair act or policy stemming from prejudice.

3. A statistical sampling or testing error caused by systematically favoring some outcomes over others.

You're confusing statistical bias with personal bias. They are not the same thing.

Everyone is biased and affected by their biases all the time, so by your reasoning everything everyone says is lie. Is that the logical argument you are trying to make?

 

[Lazybones]

You're confusing statistical bias with personal bias. They are not the same thing.

Everyone is biased and affected by their biases all the time, so by your reasoning everything everyone says is lie. Is that the logical argument you are trying to make?

Nope.

 

[wardorican]

I am seeing some articles about a CNN whistleblower. My sources are only one sided, so I am a little skeptical of the validity.
However, apparently project Veritas has a whistleblower who wore a hidden camera to work.
The accusation is that CNN has been running their news with a tad of bias. (No surprise here for some of us) We will see how this plays out.

Since this conversation has gotten a bit of the rails, due to the source (who has a history of making up crap, and selectively editing it to make it look worse), I'm just going to watch the videos and make some comments and observations.

1. The satellite uplink contractor who wore the video, gave his opinion that the CNN president has a vendetta against Trump. No proof. No quote. Just an opinion statement.

2. The "media created this monster" is probably correct. Trump has always loved his name in the media, and uses the negative attention to his benefit. We've all said as much. This is not a revelation. And it is also someone else's opinion. if they wanted to counteract that, they'd just stop reporting on him.

3. The comment about Lindsey Graham.. the president of CNN is basically saying, don't let your personal friendships/relationships with him, get in the way of calling him out (my guess is on that old youtube clip of him talking about impeachment during the Clinton years). There is nothing wrong with telling news people to not let their personal bias get in the way of pointing out a pretty obvious hypocritical position. It's what they do to all politicians. (I'm assuming the bit on why they were talking about Graham, but I'm probably not far off).

4. Zucker calling Fox News fake news and a propaganda machine isn't exactly inaccurate. Especially their Opinion shows, which dominate the 'Fox News' lineup. They have been called a propaganda machine for over a decade.

5. The whistle blowers stated motive... Wanting news to be what it was, not chasing ratings, etc. I think we all want that. CNN does chase shiny things. Been the joke for over a decade. I'll post some examples of that later. His point was to make everyone aware. Well, most are. A lot of TV news is trash. So, I still find myself asking.. "where's the beef". I believe we had a thread a while back saying, if you want better media, stop clicking on crappy, baiting links. They're just following the $$$$ to keep in operation. No one really wants factual news, it's too boring.

6. Don't loose sight on what the biggest story is, "Impeachment". Well, duh, isn't it a huge story? Pretty rare event. It's not just talk about it, it's movement towards it. It's been a significant month. Now, if this was from 2.5 years ago, different story, but this all seems like recent examples.

7. That first VP... very edited. Only the one partial sentence talking about the second whistle blower fortifying the complaint, but without the lead in or discussion afterwards to give context. Second VP, the story being how other Republicans are defiant or silent on the matter. Well, it is. Hold power to task for not responding to things. These are all basic journalism things. Again, so far only using recent examples, of a major story to justify long time bias? I'm waiting for older stuff...

7b.. also.. imagine what the Fox News 9am call is like. Especially when Ailes was running it. How about NBC? CBS? ABC? What is a counter extreme version and what's "normal"? Let's put this all in context.

8. Nothing better than being at the bar griping about the boss. haha, we all do that. I'm sure Zucker hates Trump to some degree. I'm sure working together at NBC wasn't wonderful.

9. Still lots of opinions, but that Media Coordinator is likely right.. chasing ratings. When media companies and news broadcasts became profit centers, vs profit losses for a network, shiny things took over. I thought his part was the most accurate and fair. Honest people reporting the facts, but also having to fit in with making profits. So, the coverage bias is there (we all stated that), and the silly crap they do, like the pulling names out of a hat game show looking deal, was to "attract viewers". I'd imagine Fox News, MSNBC, and others do the same. You think Fox News complaining about the Left or Obama/Clinton on a near daily basis is for another other than ratings and propaganda?

10. Ha, Trump isn't a saavy business man, not a good one, but sneaky. Sneaky bullying. Yup, that seems to be true. Otherwise, another person stating the obvious, "media created the Trump monster".

11. The people at CNN were in shock of the election.. Yeah, so was about 52% of America. That's not new. Heck, SNL did a great bit about that with Chappelle. Funny stuff.

Programming note, I'm 13 minutes into the first video.. man.. this is tough sledding.

12. First clear example of the "journalist" baiting the random CNN guy into a sound byte by making a joke (Anti-Trump Crusade), and having the guy "fill in the blank". The guy could simply be saying what he thought he "journalist" was saying... then it cuts off, before you can get his actual reaction to that. First real clear example of Project Veritas manipulating information. After that, it's "Project Veritas" speaking about what that guy thought, not actually using their words. I wouldn't believe any of that.

13. Repeating stuff from earlier.

14. Don Lemon being blatantly left. Yup. They say be honest about it. I'm not sure if he is or isn't, since I don't watch much CNN. But, Hannity is clearly a conservative? Does he state this? Does he state he's objective or not? I guess I'm unsure there too. But I always felt like he was trying to pretend he's objective as well. If people can't see bias for themselves in editorials, then that's on them.

15. Why did the guy want to quit? I do respect the idea that the guy wants actual fair and balanced news. The issue is chasing profits. The news part is factual and accurate. The opinions, headlines, guest and host opinions, is well.. kinda crappy. Has been for years. I mean, the Daily show used to almost run a daily "CNN" joke.

2nd video..

16. is it really exposing anything to say they want to cover the top runners in the democratic debates more than the low polling folks? And that was still someone's opinion, who just works in the room. Picking winners and losers? No. .they're giving coverage to the ones who are highest in the polls. Duh, chasing ratings.

17. Oh, look at that bias.. Zucker once donated to Kamala Harris, also likes Pete.. Likes Warren.. and Biden... and he's, wait for it.. open to most of the democrats, hasn't seemingly decided who he wants to win.

Ok, my kid wants to get on the computer. I'm going to end it here for now. But, I'm not seeing some big deal here, based on me listening to this.

I think the bit on Yang was unfairly characterized. Zucker is making sure they give enough attention to Yang, do they need to devote more time. And the Politics VP is like, heck yeah, he's resonating, we should take them all seriously, especially when they have surges. Saw nothing that made it sound like Zucker wanted to downplay that. Again, more of the "Journalist" trying to push comments on specific charges.. like Yang being mad at CNN. Didn't get the same soundbyte like the first one.

Here's the truth.. They don't chase what's the best news, they chase ratings. Yup, been saying that for years. A Biden rally would be boring, no one would watch. Yup.

Where's the beef? So far, about a half hour into this, what is the huge charge? What's the damning evidence? What is new?

 

[V Chip]

Excellent, excellent post @wardorican .