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    Most of his adult family were and are fair game because they were involved in the campaign and made numerous public comments in support of them. Even Melania when she literally plagerized Michelle's speech and made it her own. The only issue I had was anything directed at Barron as he was still a kid at the time.

    Trump and most of his family knew what they were getting into. And that stuff was hardly new. The attacks on Chelsea Clinton were savage. Same for the Bush family, same for the Obama family. To say it started with Trump's family is completely disingenuous. There was no uptick at all.

    Where the uptick we've clearly seen since 2016 is the toxicity injected into political discussions that ramped up in 2016. That was no accident.
    Right. So anything on the Biden's is fair game by that logic as well. They all seemed to be in the corruption and money laundering game.
     
    Why should I believe anything you say? You haven’t offered proof of anything. And, guess what? As a Trump supporter you have ceded any right to complain about ethics at all. Not to mention your lies about Biden in this thread. People who tell lies should never try to lecture anyone about anything that has to do with ethics.
    I don't expect you to believe me, you never have, although they have all proven to be true.

    Can you show me a 'lie' please?
     
    Biden is doing a really good job, and he’s doing it without all the corruption, crazy tweets and stupidity. It’s driving them crazy, lol. But really, how bad do you have to be to root against good economic news for the US? It’s really stupid.


    Yeah, America is knocking it out of the park, we are a much better country as of late.
     
    I don't expect you to believe me, you never have, although they have all proven to be true.

    Can you show me a 'lie' please?

    Ooh! Ooh! Pick me!

    He held up the funds? How long were those funds held up?
    Do you consider what Biden did in Ukraine (benefit his son's new board position by getting a Ukrainian prosecutor fired for looking into Burisma corruption for congressionally approved money- remember, Joe never ever discussed any of Hunters business dealing) to be also impeachable by that standard?

    The fired prosecutor specifically was refusing to investigate corruption. It wasn't just Biden, either. Getting this corrupt prosecutor out was the official position of the US (with bi-partisan support) as well as the position of our allies and other global institutions.
     
    Can you show me a 'lie' please?
    How about this:
    He held up the funds? How long were those funds held up?
    Do you consider what Biden did in Ukraine (benefit his son's new board position by getting a Ukrainian prosecutor fired for looking into Burisma corruption for congressionally approved money- remember, Joe never ever discussed any of Hunters business dealing) to be also impeachable by that standard?
    Here, read the Cliff Notes @MT15 provided:
    None of it makes any sense at all. Shokin was in very deep trouble in Ukraine long before Biden had anything to say about it.

    Read this thread, it explain’s the idiocy being proposed, the time frame is all wrong and Biden cannot use mind control on the Ukrainian citizens:

     
    Ooh! Ooh! Pick me!



    The fired prosecutor specifically was refusing to investigate corruption. It wasn't just Biden, either. Getting this corrupt prosecutor out was the official position of the US (with bi-partisan support) as well as the position of our allies and other global institutions.
    LOL...the lies aren't hard to find. Just scroll up.
     
    He held up the funds? How long were those funds held up?
    Do you consider what Biden did in Ukraine (benefit his son's new board position by getting a Ukrainian prosecutor fired for looking into Burisma corruption for congressionally approved money- remember, Joe never ever discussed any of Hunters business dealing) to be also impeachable by that standard?
    This is all pure BS, and you should actually know that by now. It’s all a big fat lie. The Ukrainian prosecutor was fired for NOT going after corruption, not for looking into it. That is a documented fact. The entire EU wanted him fired and it was also official US policy that he needed to go. He was a huge part of the corruption in Ukraine that the US and EU were trying to get rid of.

    What you are repeating is Kremlin propaganda. The corrupt prosecutor was in Putin’s pocket.

    And the funds were held up past the legal requirement that they be dispersed.

    You really should bow out of this discussion. You have no facts.
     
    I don't expect you to believe me, you never have, although they have all proven to be true.

    Can you show me a 'lie' please?
    You need to show me proof of your accusations. But we have all just pointed out a big fat lie to you about Burisma and the corrupt Ukrainian prosecutor. Can you admit it?
     
    LOL...the lies aren't hard to find. Just scroll up.
    Did I say that Ukraine is not corrupt? They are and we also should not be supporting them to the level we do, but it is funny, that Hunters daddy used american tax payer funds to have a prosecutor fired that was investigating corruption, is it not? Just a perfectly aligned coincident.
     
    You need to show me proof of your accusations. But we have all just pointed out a big fat lie to you about Burisma and the corrupt Ukrainian prosecutor. Can you admit it?
    Like all the proof you specifically had for Trump impeachment x2? LoL, I will get right on that.

    Why do you think Hunter was on the board? Could it be to have daddy throw clean up some messes, that he did with tax payer money?
     
    This is all pure BS, and you should actually know that by now. It’s all a big fat lie. The Ukrainian prosecutor was fired for NOT going after corruption, not for looking into it. That is a documented fact. The entire EU wanted him fired and it was also official US policy that he needed to go. He was a huge part of the corruption in Ukraine that the US and EU were trying to get rid of.

    What you are repeating is Kremlin propaganda. The corrupt prosecutor was in Putin’s pocket.

    And the funds were held up past the legal requirement that they be dispersed.

    You really should bow out of this discussion. You have no facts.
    HAHA! Kremlin propaganda? Is Hunters laptop still fake to you? You can't beleive that, even those that told you it was have now backed off that. Please tell me you don't still believe that...please?
     

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