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    Policies have not ever determined the outcome of an election.

    That’s your entire assessment of what I posted? To suggest that policies and platforms have no bearing on outcomes is simply not true. While there is a lot of team loyalty, and voters who make decisions based on personality, elections are won and lost on a multitude of factors and demographics.

    Given current circumstances, there are a lot of women, for whom, policy is exactly what is motivating them.
     
    A summation of evidence is moving goalpost now? I thought your goal was to prove he was a Dem? Are you done with the secret Democrat arc? Has sanity finally won?
    J-Donk you misunderstand what SFL is saying. He's not accusing you of moving the goal posts, he's letting you know that he's moving the goal posts. He's just giving you a courteous heads up.
     
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    Evidently they see no reason to maybe call this off?


    Some in news and punditry have talked about a possible repeat of chaos and protests at the Democratic National Convention similar to when the convention was in Chicago and there was a fight to replace the primary winner.

    If Fuentes is any indication, that may happen at the Republican convention.
     
    SFL will implicitly admit he was wrong when he ignores the thread for days/weeks.
    Says the guy who demands apologies while not realizing he was wrong.

    I see the left's main focus after Trump almost got assassinated is to make sure everyone knows it was Republican like that somehow puts the blame on Trump for his own assassination.
     
    That’s your entire assessment of what I posted? To suggest that policies and platforms have no bearing on outcomes is simply not true. While there is a lot of team loyalty, and voters who make decisions based on personality, elections are won and lost on a multitude of factors and demographics.

    Given current circumstances, there are a lot of women, for whom, policy is exactly what is motivating them.
    George Bush senior: "No new taxes". Bill Clinton: despite a Ken Starr, re election was overwhelming due to great economic numbers presumably from his policy. George Bush Jr: years of deregulation caused a massive banking failure; leading to obama's election of hope and change. Trump 2016: partially due to the 2008 crash where Obama voters felt free market policies represented by tpp cost them manufacturing jobs. Biden: colossal policy failure by trump handling of covid, leading to high unemployment.
     
    Says the guy who demands apologies while not realizing he was wrong.

    I see the left's main focus after Trump almost got assassinated is to make sure everyone knows it was Republican like that somehow puts the blame on Trump for his own assassination.

    It isn’t to blame Trump, it’s to counter false narratives and conspiracy theories that try to pin this on Biden / Democrats.
     
    That’s your entire assessment of what I posted? To suggest that policies and platforms have no bearing on outcomes is simply not true. While there is a lot of team loyalty, and voters who make decisions based on personality, elections are won and lost on a multitude of factors and demographics.

    Given current circumstances, there are a lot of women, for whom, policy is exactly what is motivating them.

    We need to accept that MAGA is going to have total control for at least two years.
     
    Says the guy who demands apologies while not realizing he was wrong.

    I see the left's main focus after Trump almost got assassinated is to make sure everyone knows it was Republican like that somehow puts the blame on Trump for his own assassination.
    I see the main focus on the right is to blame Democrats blame Biden even though it was republican. But let's just ignore that.
     
    Says the guy who demands apologies while not realizing he was wrong.

    I see the left's main focus after Trump almost got assassinated is to make sure everyone knows it was Republican like that somehow puts the blame on Trump for his own assassination.
    Well sure, you should know, wasn't it your side, and the NRA, who taught my side how to blame victims?

    Especially for those gun violence issues.
     
    lol.. well that settles it.
    if he's so sure if it, why start off with "in my opinion"?.. because he knows he's full of shirt that's why..
    his first false is he said when a president is speaking. Trump isn't president, so things are different for former and or candidates..
    it's done been said he was outside perimeter range of the Secret Service. but i know you don't like being bothered with facts .
    but i have no doubt you 100% believe him .. lol
    Why would he start off with its my opinion? Maybe because it's his opinion as opposed to confirmed facts which we have little at this point. It's funny you act like that's a legitimate criticism.

    Then you want to focus on him calling Trump president instead of former president? That's a bit nitpicky don't you think? I see former govenors, mayor's, etc being called governor, mayor on TV quite often and they don't always say former. Once again, just an odd thing to be focused on.

    Trump is a former and not current president, but no other former presidents ran for president before right? So this is a unique situation security wise around Trump and its not like he's just a regular candidate.

    He seems to be someone who has a ton of experience as Sniper and he was actually one of the best. You don't have to believe or think it's important to hear from someone like that, but I do especially when we know very little about what and how everything happened.

    There is no way that roof shouldn't have been secured and someone should have seen a guy who was climbing onto a roof with a big rifle within 150 yards of the leading candidate and a former president. The guy who got interviewed with the red hair and Maga hat said they saw this guy for 2 to 3 minutes before the shot and they alerted the police or SS. How does that not get a signal sent to get Trump off the stage or tackle Trump before the guy shot the gun?

    It was such a huge mistake and Trump would be dead right now if he's hadn't turned his head so it's hard to act like this was just not enough SS or police or lack of training. We don't have many confirmed facts so we are all doing a lot of speculating, but initially this doesn't look good.
     
    It isn’t to blame Trump, it’s to counter false narratives and conspiracy theories that try to pin this on Biden / Democrats.
    Well it looks like someone got the memo to try to tone down the rhetoric.

    MSNBC took Joe and Mika off the air this morning. They probably couldn't depend on Joe or Mika not blaming Trump for his own shooting or saying they thought he deserved it.

     
    Well it looks like someone got the memo to try to tone down the rhetoric.

    MSNBC took Joe and Mika off the air this morning. They probably couldn't depend on Joe or Mika not blaming Trump for his own shooting or saying they thought he deserved it.


    When free speech isn't free. Or does that only apply to one side?
     
    Well it looks like someone got the memo to try to tone down the rhetoric.

    MSNBC took Joe and Mika off the air this morning. They probably couldn't depend on Joe or Mika not blaming Trump for his own shooting or saying they thought he deserved it.

    Are you in denial about the years of violent rhetoric coming from Trump, MAGA, and right wing pundits? It’s central to Trump’s appeal. I’m not doing an accounting of that for you. If you’ve ignored it or simply want to deny it, then ignorance is a choice you can live with.

    Trump is a threat to our democracy and the policy initiatives he’s associated with are a danger to millions of people. Identifying that isn’t a call to violence.
     

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