Assassination attempt on Trump (3 Viewers)

[SaintForLife]

Trump is alive, but his ear was bleeding

 

[Bigdaddysaints]

to be clear, he did not know how long before he radioed to when Trump was shot, so technically, the shots could have already been taken before the radio call went out.
So this video didn't indicate that anyone was warned via radio with enough time to evacuate. is that a plausable assertion?

i just want to bring this up again to hear what your thoughts were on this?

 

[DaveXA]

Should I start demanding apologies like J-Donk did?




Thomas Matthew Crooks reportedly disliked Republican and Democrat politicians and called a classmate "stupid" for supporting President Trump.

A classmate also reported that Crooks and his friends threatened to "shoot up" their high school during their freshman year.

"I brought up the fact that I'm Hispanic, and I'm for Trump."

"He called me stupid or insinuated that I was stupid."

"He did not like politicians. Especially during 2016, it was Bernie Sanders, Hillary Clinton, all of them. He showed that he disliked all of them."

"He was a know-it-all. So once again, if he was passionate about something, he would talk, talk, talk and act like he knew everything, especially politics related."

"He was real smug and arrogant whenever he was talking."

"His friend group... they were definitely the type, and they did make threats to shoot up our school. During our freshmen year, there were Snapchat messages saying Thomas made a threat. It was that friend group."

"Everyone was mainly blaming his friend group, but the name that kept coming up was Thomas."

"The signs were there, and somebody definitely had to have known whether he was talking to somebody... Anybody who knew him should have known something was up."

Lol, he's still a Republican. There are plenty of anti-Trump Republicans out there.

Regardless, I don't really care either way. He seems like a bitter angry kid who was teased a lot.

 

[Bigdaddysaints]

so its possible his mom made a donation in his name then and maybe he didn't even know?

 

[Incumbent]

I think the conspiracy is more along the lines of security purposely being lax and thereby opening the door for someone to have an opportunity like this guy did.. not so much that it was outright coordinated.

Then everything had to align in uncontrolled ways for that conspiracy to work.

After Uvalde, I don’t even try to make excuses for law enforcement incompetence. The fatal mistake here might only be that Secret Service overestimated the abilities of local law enforcement to properly secure and monitor areas outside of their perimeter.

 

[bdb13]

I don’t think you can really call that a conspiracy can you? Let’s just be bad at our jobs and hope some nut case decides to kill him? That’s just incompetence rather than a conspiracy I think. A conspiracy involves planning.

I think the conspiracy there would be to make it look like incompetence when it actually wasn't.. but I wasn't actually referring to that in particular when I said conspiracy, was just saying that I believe this is their conspiracy theory...

 

[SaintForLife]

Nobody is going to all that planning and relying on a shooter who either can’t line up a better shot or doesn’t know to shoot center mass. Nobody is going to all that planning then taking him out so quickly he can’t finish the job.

Why are you saying that? If Trump doesn't turn his head the shooters shot would have been lined up perfectly.

If there was some conspiracy not everyone has to be involved. Also, a 20 year old makes it easier to seem like it was a lone shooter rather than a coordinated effort.

 

[bdb13]

But that's not a conspiracy. It's just incompetence.

The conspiracy part of it would be making it appear as incompetence..

 

[Bigdaddysaints]

Lol, he's still a Republican. There are plenty of anti-Trump Republicans out there.

Regardless, I don't really care either way. He seems like a bitter angry kid who was teased a lot.

one post SLF has something that implies he was laughing along with his classmates, then in aother posts he shares that another classmate saying he was the school shooter type.. Its like he can't make up his mind which way to.
He's losing the battle on tryng to make up stuff about him being a democrat, that hes swutchng gears so fast he forgets he's sharing stuff in contradicting what he posted earlier..
Just lie he still sticks to his gun that Jan 6th was antifa and the others were tourists..

 

[Bigdaddysaints]

The conspiracy part of it would be making it appear as incompetence..

but none of this appears incompetence, it is blantant easy to see incompetence...

 

[MT15]

The conspiracy part of it would be making it appear as incompetence..

That’s still completely crazy IMO

 

[efil4]

Why are you saying that? If Trump doesn't turn his head the shooters shot would have been lined up perfectly.

If there was some conspiracy not everyone has to be involved. Also, a 20 year old makes it easier to seem like it was a lone shooter rather than a coordinated effort.

oh ye of little knowledge. ( other than Q conspiracies )

do you know anyone that shoots? like hunters? NO ONE AIMS for the HEAD UNLESS you are an absolute crack-shot, award winning sharpshooter.

Its ALWAYS "center mass"

That way, if wind, movement etc moves the target ever so slightly, 4-6 inch movement doesnt affect the shot as much.

Damn man yall want SO BAD for it to be tied to some "Deep state" conspiracy you are willing to look like an absolute fool in doing so.

Kudos to your lack of self-awareness.

 

[Incumbent]

Why are you saying that? If Trump doesn't turn his head the shooters shot would have been lined up perfectly.

If there was some conspiracy not everyone has to be involved. Also, a 20 year old makes it easier to seem like it was a lone shooter rather than a coordinated effort.

If he shot center mass it wouldn’t have mattered that Trump turned his head. If he was an expert shot, it wouldn’t have mattered that Trump turned his head. Government conspirators (which is what I assume the Xitter troll army is implying) aren’t planning all this out then leaving the outcome to the chance of a timely head turn and an unskilled shooter.

This is almost certainly a disgruntled kid who decided to go out in a big way.

 

[Farb]

I think everyone understands center mass but wouldn't the shooter take the head shot if body armor was highly probable and a podium was in front? Wasn't Kennedy shot in the head?

 

[bdb13]

That’s still completely crazy IMO

I agree. It would be crazy and I'm not saying I believe that I'm just trying to bridge the gap that I thought I could see in the discussion here.. but I will say that the incompetence was to such a grand scale that I can understand how people, especially on the right, look at it and say how could they have possibly been that incompetent? Because I do wonder the same thing in that regard because from the outside so much of it appears to make such little sense.

 

[DaveXA]

Why not? His shot would have killed Trump had Trump not turned his head. I don't see how that would change in your scenario.

Dense as ever...dood...a conspiracy isn't gonna put the assassination in the hands of an unskilled flunkie who couldn't even make the high school shooting team. If you believe that, I've got some more conspiracies to let you in on.

 

[Incumbent]

If we’re going down the conspiracy hole, it was staged. [rolls eyes] Trump doesn’t care about his supporters. He was never fired on directly but was hit by shrapnel. How was it staged? I don’t know but that part doesn’t seem to matter.

That doesn’t make any more or less sense than the idea that onsite law enforcement, including Trump’s SS detail, were on the take and let this happen.

 

[Bigdaddysaints]

oh ye of little knowledge. ( other than Q conspiracies )

do you know anyone that shoots? like hunters? NO ONE AIMS for the HEAD UNLESS you are an absolute crack-shot, award winning sharpshooter.

I think everyone understands center mass but wouldn't the shooter take the head shot if body armor was highly probable and a podium was in front? Wasn't Kennedy shot in the head?

Like all Marines, Oswald was trained and tested in shooting. In December 1956, he scored 212, which was slightly above the requirements for the designation of sharpshooter.[20] In May 1959 he scored 191, which reduced his rating to marksman.{/quote]

Oswald may not have been an award wining crackshot, but he was pretty darn good. So do you see the difference?

 

[DaveXA]

I think everyone understands center mass but wouldn't the shooter take the head shot if body armor was highly probable and a podium was in front? Wasn't Kennedy shot in the head?

JFK being shot in the head is different because he was sitting in a car and moving away from the shooter. His head was the most exposed part of his body.

Trump was standing on a stage and pretty exposed compared to JfK so center mass would make more sense. Trump probably was wearing some type of protection, although idk how it would have held up depending on the location of the shot.