Assassination attempt on Trump (1 Viewer)

[SaintForLife]

Trump is alive, but his ear was bleeding

 

[RobF]

I am sure it's been cleared up in the last 20 pages...but in case anyone was wondering, Jack Black didnt say that. His bandmate, Kyle Gass, said it. Jack Black has cancelled the rest of the Tenacious D tour in response.

Just to note, Gass has also apologised for it. "“The line I improvised Sunday night in Sydney was highly inappropriate, dangerous and a terrible mistake. I don’t condone violence in any kind, in any form, against anyone. What happened [the shooting] was a tragedy, and I’m incredibly sorry for my severe lack of judgement." https://www.theguardian.com/music/article/2024/jul/16/jack-black-tenacious-d-kyle-gass-trump

 

[barbar]

I mean sure, nobody here is drawing parallels between Trump and Hitler (at least I don’t think they are being serious in drawing those parallels), but I’m not sure who I can take seriously given comments I keep seeing centered around Trump and Hitler. The only similarities I see them sharing are funny haircuts and having 2 eyes, feet, ears, and such. That’s where the similarities or parallels end for me (and that from someone who loathes them both).

Tell me Dave, do you draw parallels between Trump and Hitler?

If you haven't, you should go to the Dachau concentration camp and view the rise of Hitler exhibit there. They have many speeches, propaganda posters, interviews....etc from the early days of Hitlers rise. The messaging of Trump's first campaign is so spot on it's scary. In many cases it is nearly quotes from Hitler propaganda posters. Just replace the word "Jew" with "illegal immigrants" or "Mexicans." My friend got so upset he had to leave before even going to the main part of Dachau(this was during Trump's first campaign). I am not sure if this was a permanent exhibit, but if it's still there I encourage everyone to see it.

If you can see all that and still not see ANY similarities between the 2 then I don't know what to say. No one is saying or implying that Trump will murder millions of people. It's just a warning. This happened before and people were kind of lulled into it. Hitler never said "vote for me and I will murder millions of Jews." He had much easier to digest messaging that resonated with people. More like your problems aren't your fault....it's the immigrants and Jews! They are born criminals!

Those of us who see the similarities just want to make sure history will not repeat itself. I don't see how shying away from talking about it helps anything.

 

[Bigdaddysaints]

This is interesting..

Trump campaign kept profile of rally shooter’s family in 2016 database: report​

Per the report, the MAGA leader's 2016 campaign database "lists the assailant’s parents Matthew, and his wife Mary, 53," alongside "6.7 million people in the swing state of Pennsylvania profiled for their likely ownership of firearms. Both scored highly, with Crook’s father Matthew given particularly high scores."

MSN

 

[Optimus Prime]

“He was very kind and said he would continue to call me in the days and weeks ahead,” (to exploit my husband’s death for his own political gain) Helen Comperatore wrote, adding that she had told the former president that her husband, Corey Comperatore, “left this world a hero, and God welcomed him in.”

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[Bayouboy]

If you haven't, you should go to the Dachau concentration camp and view the rise of Hitler exhibit there. They have many speeches, propaganda posters, interviews....etc from the early days of Hitlers rise. The messaging of Trump's first campaign is so spot on it's scary. In many cases it is nearly quotes from Hitler propaganda posters. Just replace the word "Jew" with "illegal immigrants" or "Mexicans." My friend got so upset he had to leave before even going to the main part of Dachau(this was during Trump's first campaign). I am not sure if this was a permanent exhibit, but if it's still there I encourage everyone to see it.

If you can see all that and still not see ANY similarities between the 2 then I don't know what to say. No one is saying or implying that Trump will murder millions of people. It's just a warning. This happened before and people were kind of lulled into it. Hitler never said "vote for me and I will murder millions of Jews." He had much easier to digest messaging that resonated with people. More like your problems aren't your fault....it's the immigrants and Jews! They are born criminals!

Those of us who see the similarities just want to make sure history will not repeat itself. I don't see how shying away from talking about it helps anything.

Couldn't agree more. All of this.

The thing to really take away from this post is nobody (no normal, critical thinking individual) is comparing Trump to Hitler in the "evil" department. I think that's why Trump supporters get so inflamed by the comparison. They are not even close to being the same "evil". What is comparable is how Hitler came into power in Germany and how his followers started to bend rules and change laws to help Hitler gain power and influence. The same propaganda playbook. Do a deep dive on Hitler's rise to power in early 1930's Germany. The comparisons are legit.

 

[samiam5211]

I have a feeling there are a lot of democrats who wouldn’t take a call from Trump.

Most democrats i know would love to get a call from Trump so they could tell him what a piece of garbage he is to his face or at least over the phone.

 

[SamAndreas]

Most democrats i know would love to get a call from Trump so they could tell him what a piece of garbage he is to his face or at least over the phone.

I've become aware of that. Most of the democrats I know would keep a civil tongue in their cheeks and try to make something of that opportunity to speak with him to, try, try, try.

I know it would be useless to try. But I would try.

I'm going to try to acquaint you with another outlook regarding this election, and all the women who are quite likely to vote.

Listen to this song. It's about feelings and trying, and trying, and trying.



I don't think they're going to try voting for that old Criminal because Biden is too old.

 

[barbar]

Couldn't agree more. All of this.

The thing to really take away from this post is nobody (no normal, critical thinking individual) is comparing Trump to Hitler in the "evil" department. I think that's why Trump supporters get so inflamed by the comparison. They are not even close to being the same "evil". What is comparable is how Hitler came into power in Germany and how his followers started to bend rules and change laws to help Hitler gain power and influence. The same propaganda playbook. Do a deep dive on Hitler's rise to power in early 1930's Germany. The comparisons are legit.

This exactly.

 

[Greg]

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He can’t do anything right. Don’t call and he’s uncaring. Call and he’s doing it for political gain. You people are so ridiculous.

 

[Optimus Prime]

He can’t do anything right. Don’t call and he’s uncaring. Call and he’s doing it for political gain. You people are so ridiculous.

It’s not the call it’s the “continue to call”

Imagine that, being suspicious that a man who only does something if he stands to personally benefit may be doing something for personal benefit

 

[samiam5211]

I've become aware of that. Most of the democrats I know would keep a civil tongue in their cheeks and try to make something of that opportunity to speak with him to, try, try, try.

I know it would be useless to try. But I would try.

I'm going to try to acquaint you with another outlook regarding this election, and all the women who are quite likely to vote.

Listen to this song. It's about feelings and trying, and trying, and trying.



I don't think they're going to try voting for that old Criminal because Biden is too old.

I wouldn't respect anyone who had a phone call with Trump and didn't tell him that he is human garbage.

 

[SamAndreas]

I wouldn't respect anyone who had a phone call with Trump and didn't tell him that he is human garbage.

I know.

In my world human garbage is what we carry away from the kitchen and feed to the Ravens.

Those Ravins get pretty upset if they don't get their human garbage delivered to them on time. Speaking of that it's almost that time, I better get up out of the house and make that delivery.

It's just three minutes after 7AM here, they don't begin the rukus until around 7:05.

Opps, now it is 7:05... ... got to go.

 

[superchuck500]

I'd take a call from most Republicans, but there are a few die hard MAGA Trumpers I wouldn't ever want to have a conversation with, certainly.

I would take a call from the President of the United States no matter who it is - unless I was very specifically angry at the president for being at fault. As an American who is now part of a significant event in American history I would speak to the president calling to offer condolences on behalf of the nation. It’s just the right thing to do - you don’t have to have a conversation, just be gracious and accept the call.

Grace has become so under-practiced in this country. Tribal bullshirt dies with you; grace endures.

(to be clear I’m speaking generically, I’m not judging this widow - I can’t possibly imagine her state of mind)

 

[SamAndreas]

Here's an important person's opinion:

I am deeply ashamed of my fellow Democrats who are abandoning Joe Biden | Opinion

“He is a great leader with a staff already in place to give us another four years of sensible, balanced wisdom when it comes to the problems of this nation.” | Opinion

www.aol.com

 

[MT15]

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I'll just point out, without taking a side on what happened, that the Snopes article lists Trump's statement that he was hit by a bullet as evidence. Because, of course, he would not lie. They also claim that we have a photo of a bullet striking Trump, but we don't.

I saw a picture of a teleprompter with a corner shattered, and there were shrapnel wounds to the Secret Service agents as well.

It’s just another lie by Trump to make him seem manlier than he really is. I don’t get why people want him to get away with this obvious lie.

 

[MT15]

This is such a weird hill to die on.

Even if it’s glass, he still came within inches of his life.

Who cares if the bullet grazed him or if glass grazed him?

I only care that Trump is claiming he was hit by a bullet when he was not. It’s just another lie he’s pushing because it makes him seem more badass, and his supporters are mythologizing him over surviving a bullet. I care because we should operate in truth, not Trump’s lies.

I don’t get why people are just ceding this lie to him. Why care about any of his lies? Just accept all of them, if that’s the case.

 

[SaintForLife]

I think that picture’s impact may be overstated.
His views haven’t changed. No change of heart.

I disagree. That photo will go down as one of the most iconic political photos of all time. That's why the media is trying to find ways not to use it and it was why the NYT cropped out the flag for its front page story the day after the shooting.

 

[SaintForLife]