Assassination attempt on Trump (1 Viewer)

[SaintForLife]

Trump is alive, but his ear was bleeding

 

[Incumbent]

Maybe after his ear is healed from his assassination attempt.

He was golfing yesterday and says his travel schedule isn’t changing. I don’t think it’s the flesh wound to his ear that will keep him from taking accountability and apologizing. I don’t think you really think that, either.

 

[LA - L.A.]

I’ve never heard of anyone making a donation on Inauguration Day.

A hypothetical about losing a bet was just to demonstrate we don’t know the context behind why a 16 or 17 year old (not certain on the birthday math) made a lone political donation. We can’t even know for certain he made the donation, just that it’s in his name.

Here, I’ll flip it. We know that Pennsylvania is a closed primary state, so maybe he registered Republican because he hates Trump and wanted to vote against him in the primary. There are, however, reports he expressed conservative views, but reports can be misleading.

My point is that I wouldn’t make too much of anything this early on. That said, there’s nothing so far that supports the idea that he was an angry leftist.

I’m already on record that it won’t surprise me if this was less about ideology and more about other factors.

It was most likely psychological and not ideological.

 

[DaveXA]

Trump rally gunman spotted by law enforcement nearly 30 minutes before shots fired, sources say

Channel 11 News uncovered dramatic new details Monday in the moments leading up to the assassination attempt on former president Donald Trump.

www.wpxi.com

30 minutes is nuts. That said, I'd like more of the story because that makes no sense. The only thing I can think of may be that because they only considered him a suspicious person and not a threat they didn't notify the SS until they realized he was actually a threat.

 

[coldseat]

What discussion am I avoiding?

Are you saying that there are similarities between Trump and Hitler? If so, then yes, I will avoid that discussion because I don’t believe that there are similarities between the two.

Lol, I've said exactly that several times. And you're wrong. So wrong.

 

[DaveXA]

What discussion am I avoiding?

Are you saying that there are similarities between Trump and Hitler? If so, then yes, I will avoid that discussion because I don’t believe that there are similarities between the two.

So, if it's actually true that there are significant similarities, then just pretend there aren't...interesting approach.

 

[LA - L.A.]

Do you think it's okay, appropriate, accurate to say about Trump:

My answers are in red.

 

[el caliente]

Lol, I've said exactly that several yl times. And you're wrong. So wrong.

Make it clear for me, you ARE saying that their a similarities?

So, if it's actually true that there are significant similarities, then just pretend there aren't...interesting approach.

Did you say that nobody on this site was saying that there were similarities between Trump and Hitler?

This isn’t a gotcha post, or gotcha questions. I’m trying to make sure that we are all on the same page here.

 

[SamAndreas]

All do respect, this is wrong Sam. 300 yards is effective range for an AR with iron sights. Not sure if the shooter had optics, I am sure he did so 150 is an easy shot. An incredibly easy shot with optics. I did read that the shooter tried out for his school's rifle team and didn't make the team, so there is that.

Farb, you're saying "effective range" and I agree, it would be in the effective range. Even 400 to 500 yards would be in the effective range.

I said 'accurate range.' Accurate range involves a nickel. One has to plug a nickel to prove accuracy.

A nickel is a large target, why it's 0.832, that's more than three times the diameter of a 0.224 bullet. It's also very shiny, so one can see it at distance.

Nickels are great targets, been being used for that since they quit using pennies for that.

Did you ever hear someone say the phrase "plugged nickel," expressing worthlessness. After a marksman has used a nickel as a target, it's worthless. They have a hole in them.

I've used pennies as well. They're harder to see at a distance, and they're smaller.

When did folk start describing scopes, as optics?

Scopes are optics, and I use them, but I still call them scopes.

They don't affect the accuracy either way, but they do improve ones distance eyesight. That can help one achieve accuracy. It sure helps me.


I'm so old now I don't target shoot anymore. I suppose I still could, but I haven't gotten around to it for some years. And I don't hunt anymore, so I have little incentive to shoot at targets now.

 

[J-DONK]

You are the one who is so focused on if he was a Republican to deflect from the Democrat rhetoric about Trump. It doesn't change anything for me about the shooting.

Let's word this a diffirent way for you:

Why should a single Democrat on the board care that you want to police ONLY Democrat messaging in response to a Republican on Republican asssination attempt?

 

[el caliente]

I’m still trying to wrap my head around why a registered Republican would attempt to assassinate his party’s candidate. It doesn’t make sense, so I hope that we can get to the bottom of that.

 

[DaveXA]

I mean sure, nobody here is drawing parallels between Trump and Hitler (at least I don’t think they are being serious in drawing those parallels), but I’m not sure who I can take seriously given comments I keep seeing centered around Trump and Hitler. The only similarities I see them sharing are funny haircuts and having 2 eyes, feet, ears, and such. That’s where the similarities or parallels end for me (and that from someone who loathes them both).

Tell me Dave, do you draw parallels between Trump and Hitler?

Just to respond here, there are some obvious similarities between Trump and Hitler, but certainly not unique specifically to those 2. A lot of people have those characteristics.

That said, I've long said if we forget history we will see another Nazi Germany before long. I don't think that happens here. That's a long shot at imo, but it's certainly not impossible.

I don't don't spend much time making the comparisons because it's not a useful talking point.

That said, Trump is bad enough that there's no justification for the things he's done, no comparison needed. If anything, people are gonna be comparing who's the worst in the future to Trump.

 

[DaveXA]

Make it clear for me, you ARE saying that their a similarities?

Did you say that nobody on this site was saying that there were similarities between Trump and Hitler?

I clearly said nobody on this site is saying Trump is Hitler. Go read it again or take my word for it.

This isn’t a gotcha post, or gotcha questions. I’m trying to make sure that we are all on the same page here.

As long as my words aren't being twisted or misrepresented, we good.

 

[SamAndreas]

He certainly can request it, but as a matter of policy this isn't an ordinary request. This is obviously in response to an assassination attempt. The SS didn't previoisly extend protection to RFK because he doesn't meet the typical requirements for protection. It makes good sense to do so at this point tho. In normal circumstances Biden doesn't have any say so.

The Criminal requested it at his "Truth Social" site this morning, and now I'm reading that Biden has agreed. It's sensible considering the current circumstances, and the Kennedy family history.

 

[el caliente]

Just to respond here, there are some obvious similarities between Trump and Hitler, but certainly not unique specifically to those 2. A lot of people have those characteristics.

That said, I've long said if we forget history we will see another Nazi Germany before long. I don't think that happens here. That's a long shot at imo, but it's certainly not impossible.

I don't don't spend much time making the comparisons because it's not a useful talking point.

That said, Trump is bad enough that there's no justification for the things he's done, no comparison needed. If anything, people are gonna be comparing who's the worst in the future to Trump.

I share those sentiments, and given January 6th, his die hard followers would certainly be up for whatever, however I don’t believe there is enough power there to fear some Trump Third Reich (or even a Frank Reich). There are too many people in place for that to happen even if he shared “those” similarities with Hitler, and wanted to bring all those evils about.

 

[el caliente]

I clearly said nobody on this site is saying Trump is Hitler. Go read it again or take my word for it.

As long as my words aren't being twisted or misrepresented, we good.

We good.

 

[SamAndreas]

I don't think Biden has any blame for his bullseye comment, but what a silly excuse.

So crosshairs are bad, but bullseye was okay?

Crosshairs depict a rifle scope being aimed at someone to kill. If someone is in cross hairs they have a rifle pointed at them.

Bullseye talk depicts target practice, something not intended to kill, intended to develop skill. A bullseye doesn't imply that a rifle is present, much less is being aimed at someone.

 

[DaveXA]

I’m still trying to wrap my head around why a registered Republican would attempt to assassinate his party’s candidate. It doesn’t make sense, so I hope that we can get to the bottom of that.

Most likely because he had other issues.

That said, Republicans aren't necessarily united across the board on every issue. There certainly are pro-chiocr Republicans. There are anti-Trumper Republicans and there are others who maybe are singularity focused on a specific issue.

It's all still speculation at this point because it appears at first blush that he didn't leave a large digital footprint so it's hard to nail down what he was thinking. He apparently was a loner, and possibly bullied and that certainly could have contributed. I doubt he was thinking anything at all about R vs D when he shot Trump. I wouldn't be surprised if he just wanted to make a personal statement.

 

[Big_L]

I didn't rea all 56 pages. There are several things that just don't add up in this case. Let's see what information we are given.