All things Racist...USA edition (1 Viewer)

[Farb]

I was looking for a place to put this so we could discuss but didn't really find a place that worked so I created this thread so we can all place articles, experiences, videos and examples of racism in the USA.

This is one that happened this week. The lady even called and filed a complaint on the officer. This officer also chose to wear the body cam (apparently, LA doesn't require this yet). This exchange wasn't necessarily racist IMO until she started with the "mexican racist...you will never be white, like you want" garbage. That is when it turned racist IMO

All the murderer and other insults, I think are just a by product of CRT and ACAB rhetoric that is very common on the radical left and sadly is being brought to mainstream in this country.

Another point that I think is worth mentioning is she is a teacher and the sense of entitlement she feels is mind blowing.

https://news.yahoo.com/black-teacher-berates-latino-la-221235341.html

 

[cuddlemonkey]

Because it appears Rufo believes that CRT ties in with things like radical leftism and he's driving that perception.

What he believes doesn't matter. He admits publicly and proudly that he uses CRT as an umbrella term to cover all manner of things that aren't CRT.

I'm taking a more direct approach, so once again, in a nutshell, what is CRT and what is its message?

You have already asked this and have been answered.

 

[Peace]

What he believes doesn't matter. He admits publicly and proudly that he uses CRT as an umbrella term to cover all manner of things that aren't CRT.

Below...

You have already asked this and have been answered.

I have? Where?

 

[cuddlemonkey]

Below...

I have? Where?

You had this exact conversation with Brandon. Both of you agreed that the Wikipedia definition was appropriate for the conversation. I have no reason to insert another version of the same definition.

 

[Peace]

You had this exact conversation with Brandon. Both of you agreed that the Wikipedia definition was appropriate for the conversation. I have no reason to insert another version of the same definition.

Fair enough. If you're confident with Brandon's take so far, then I'll leave you out of it.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

Fair enough. If you're confident with Brandon's take so far, then I'll leave you out of it.

I'm fine with his take, but that doesn't mean I won't have my own observations to share. This includes the observation that Rufo is a grifter and you've fallen prey to him. You even identified the grift and ignored it.

 

[Peace]

I'm fine with his take, but that doesn't mean I won't have my own observations to share. This includes the observation that Rufo is a grifter and you've fallen prey to him. You even identified the grift and ignored it.

I didn't even know who Rufo was until he was brought up here, in this forum, what, 2 hours ago? I've heard thoughts on it from my side of the fence, and now I'm getting the left's perspective.

 

[Optimus Prime]

I didn't even know who Rufo was until he was brought up here, in this forum, what, 2 hours ago? I've heard thoughts on it from my side of the fence, and now I'm getting the left's perspective.

You don’t have to know who he is to have fallen for his scam hook line and sinker

 

[Peace]

You don’t have to know who he is to have fallen for his scam hook line and sinker

Are you trying to say that he knows CRT is a legitimate theory and he'll say and do anything to destroy it anyways?

 

[Farb]

We don't live in 1776 anymore. It doesn't matter what way you slice it, the bureaucratic state is necessary and a part of any modern first world country. That didn't just happen by accident or because of liberals. Whether it's because of the military, security, law enforcement, social services, business regulation, health care, infrastructure and transportation needs, etc., a modern society doesn't exist without the bureaucratic state to sustain it. So even if you get your desired national divorce, you're going to have a bureaucratic state to deal with in your conservative utopia.

In order to have a bureaucratic state, the elected officials are going to have to cede power to it, so that the bureaucratic state can have the request authority to carry out its mandate. That's just a reality. But those same elected officials always retain the power change the conditions of or claw back the power of the bureaucratic state as it sees necessary, if it can muster the votes to do so. They do it all the time. So while I can see reforming the bureaucratic state as a justifiable desire, getting rid of it entirely is unrealistic and untenable.

I understand what you are saying to an extent but the system our country was founded on was not for bureaucratic control. The bureaucracy, or the deep state, does not get to enforce or establish laws by our founding documents but they hold most of the power.
I don't agree that our elected officials have to cede power to non elected officials. That is saying we as citizens have to cede our power established by the founding documents to non-elected officials. I do understand that all of those bureaucracy are currently held by those that you agree with both politically and ideologically but that won't always be the case and I do think you would change you stance rather quickly if that is the case.

Not to single you out on that as I fully admit that if the deep state was ideologically conservative, I would be much much more accepting. The point is that the deep state should be be neutral and it is currently not.

In 2016, nobody claimed that Russians or Republicans changed voters actual vote or that anybody voted illegally.

In 2020, Republicans claimed Democrats cheated by changing voter's vote, getting illegal's to vote, and illegally voting a myriad of other ways. All with no evidence.

For 2022 and 2024, Republicans are saying that Democrats are going to cheat again. If they lose, it's because there was election fraud and are coming up with a million other conspiracies' that will illegitimize the election if Republicans don't win. They are also saying ahead of time that they will do anything to prevent a Democrat from winning.

I don't expect you to appreciate the difference, but there it is clear as day.

Then why was Trump called illegitimate?

https://news.yahoo.com/hillary-clinton-labels-trump-illegitimate-170547434.html

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jimmy-carter-trump-russia_n_5d162e15e4b082e553686a92

https://www.insider.com/joe-biden-says-he-agrees-trump-is-illegitimate-president-2019-5

https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...ms-dont-accept-trump-as-legitimate-president/

I could go on and on but you get the point. One claims Russian disinformation and the other claims voter fraud/big tech/media disinformation. I don't see the huge difference that the left sees.

 

[Farb]

Dumbest forking thing ever. You should be proud of how ridiculously stupid it sounds, to be honest.

I described 'voter suppression'. I agree, it is absurd and stupid.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Are you trying to say that he knows CRT is a legitimate theory and he'll say and do anything to destroy it anyways?

I don’t have to say that

HE has said it himself

 

[Farb]

We've already discussed the fact that 17% of Alabamians don't have reliable internet access. Try to keep up.

Do you think those 17% have a driver license?

 

[Farb]

West is mentally ill.

The woman is a bigot. Racism derives from positions of power. All racists are bigots but not all bigots are racists.

So a person that doesn't like a person because of the color of there skin is not considered a racist?
If so, you owe me an apology as you called me a racist but I have no power over you. I don't even know who you are so I can't be a racist. Do you apologize?

 

[Peace]

I don’t have to say that

HE has said it himself

CRT doesn't sound legitimate to me, so Rufo and I are already at odds.

 

[Farb]

If talking about the existence of systemic racism is part of CRT, then CRT should be mandatory in our schools.

If talking about the fact that the US is built on stolen land is CRT, then CRT should be mandatory in our schools.

Things that we call "history" are now being labeled CRT.

I thought conservatives didn't want to erase history?

yet no proof of systemic racism can be show, only abstract theories

conquered land as all land is conquered

I think conservative just prefer real history and not ideological history....and you wonder why the public school system is a complete and utter failure in this country.

 

[Farb]

"Cultural Radicalism" is.

Here, educate yourself:

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Some lefties don't update their talking points to their current marching orders. He is still on the 'it doesn't happen' orders that were first issued.

 

[Farb]

Treat people the way you want to be treated

Do you feel that the fact that not all people were or are treated well shouldn't be taught

Do you mean African slavery?

 

[Farb]

You can't teach american history without talking about us taking land away from Native Americans or the oppression of black people.

Do you think these things are not taught? Or do you need to make sure the precieved evil doer is pointed out with no regard to all the evil doers?

For example, when discussing African slavery, should we not being educating the youth on slavery as a whole in the world and who the white/brown/black and yellow slavers bought their slaves from? Or do we just fast forward to the white owning black people?

Do we discuss how the native tribes took slaves, before Europeans set foot on this side of the world and also displaced other native tribes through warfare or do we just fastforward to the evil of the white people.

You are correct that you cannot teach American history without including the fights/treaties with the natives and the oppression of black people but if you are going to label it history, it would make sense to include all the history. Otherwise, you are creating a political and ideological club to beat other citizens with. I know that is the point, but I want to hear you defend it.