All things political. Coronavirus Edition. (18 Viewers)

[Maxp]

I fear we are really going to be in a bad place due to the obvious cuts to the federal agencies that deal with infectious disease, but also the negative effect the Affordable Care act has had on non urban hospitals. Our front line defenses are ineffectual and our ability to treat the populous is probably at an all time low. Factor in the cost of healthcare and I can see our system crashing. What do you think about the politics of this virus?

 

[SystemShock]

So, today, the first shipment of Russian covid-19 vaccines arrived in Mexico. The date of the arrival of the vaccines coincides with the day Leon Trosky arrived in Mexico as an exile, after being expelled from the Soviet Communist Party. The vaccines are to be distributed "immediately".

caliente.mx has not set the death over/under yet.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Some states have a statewide mask mandate and a fine if you don't comply (I've seen it as high as $500, don't know how strongly it's being enforced though)

Will Biden do a national mask mandate and fine also?

People are already not doing it for political reasons

I can't imagine that changing much, especially from a president they honestly think stole the election

 

[DaveXA]

So...Corey Lewandowski tested positive for Covid. Who didn't see that one coming? Lol.

 

[superchuck500]

 

[DaveXA]

It's a Covid party! Need more of those!

Yeah, smh.

 

[insidejob]

I hate to be crass (not really) but they all deserve it for being total morons.

 

[Booker]

I remember hearing about "chickenpox parties," it was really bold to turn election night at the White House into a covid party. Theme music for the event...

 

[insidejob]

It's a Covid party! Need more of those!

Yeah, smh.

Maybe that will be the way to put an end to this QAnon bullshirt.

 

[DaveXA]

Maybe that will be the way to put an end to this QAnon bullshirt.

I think that would be just great.

 

[superchuck500]

 

[Eeyore]

There's no time or money for a coronavirus stimulus package.

Senate panel proposes $696B Pentagon spending bill

The GOP-led Senate Appropriations Committee is proposing a $696 billion Pentagon spending bill for this fiscal year.

thehill.com

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

Another stupid Republican Senator, this time it's Dr. Paul

Rand Paul accuses Dr. Anthony Fauci of 'glossing over science' and dismissing 'individual liberty'

Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., blasted National Institute of Allergy and Infecious Diseases Director Dr. Anthony Fauci Thursday over apparently contradictory statements about the coronavirus pandemic.

www.foxnews.com

And their supporters get mad at those of us call out stupidity.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Some states have a statewide mask mandate and a fine if you don't comply (I've seen it as high as $500, don't know how strongly it's being enforced though)

Will Biden do a national mask mandate and fine also?

People are already not doing it for political reasons

I can't imagine that changing much, especially from a president they honestly think stole the election

well that answers that

I don't suppose it's possible to say that the vaccine goes to the states with a mask mandate first
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President-elect Joe Biden says he'll personally call red state governors and persuade them to impose mask mandates to slow down the coronavirus pandemic. Their early response: Don’t waste your time.

Almost all of the 16 Republican governors who oppose statewide mask mandates are ready to reject Biden’s plea, they told POLITICO or declared in public statements — even as they impose new restrictions on businesses and limit the size of public gatherings to keep their health systems from getting swamped.

South Dakota’s Kristi Noem, Oklahoma’s Kevin Stitt and Nebraska’s Pete Ricketts, whose states are engulfed by new cases, say mask wearing should remain a personal choice, not a legal obligation — despite recommendations from health officials and updated guidance from the Centers for Disease Control stressing that masks protect the wearer, not just people nearby, from infection.

“Governor Noem has provided her people with the full scope of the science, facts, and data regarding the virus, and then she has trusted them to exercise their personal responsibility to make the best decisions for themselves and their loved-ones,” Noem spokesperson Ian Fury wrote in an email. “She will not be changing that approach.”

The politicization of mask-wearing shows how difficult it will be for Biden to build consensus around even basic public health strategies after he’s sworn in.........

“If President-elect Biden is indeed confirmed to be the next president, and he approaches me about a mask mandate, I would not be going along with a mask mandate,” Ricketts said during a press briefing on Tuesday.

“As far as a mandate, I’ve been very clear I don’t think this it’s the right thing to do,” Stitt, who was infected with the coronavirus earlier this year, said at a briefing on Tuesday. “This is a personal responsibility.".............

Red state governors reject Biden on mask orders

The politicization of mask-wearing shows how difficult it will be for Joe Biden to build consensus around even basic public health strategies after he’s sworn in.

www.politico.com

 

[DaveXA]

well that answers that
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President-elect Joe Biden says he'll personally call red state governors and persuade them to impose mask mandates to slow down the coronavirus pandemic. Their early response: Don’t waste your time.

Almost all of the 16 Republican governors who oppose statewide mask mandates are ready to reject Biden’s plea, they told POLITICO or declared in public statements — even as they impose new restrictions on businesses and limit the size of public gatherings to keep their health systems from getting swamped.

South Dakota’s Kristi Noem, Oklahoma’s Kevin Stitt and Nebraska’s Pete Ricketts, whose states are engulfed by new cases, say mask wearing should remain a personal choice, not a legal obligation — despite recommendations from health officials and updated guidance from the Centers for Disease Control stressing that masks protect the wearer, not just people nearby, from infection.

“Governor Noem has provided her people with the full scope of the science, facts, and data regarding the virus, and then she has trusted them to exercise their personal responsibility to make the best decisions for themselves and their loved-ones,” Noem spokesperson Ian Fury wrote in an email. “She will not be changing that approach.”

The politicization of mask-wearing shows how difficult it will be for Biden to build consensus around even basic public health strategies after he’s sworn in..................

MSN

www.msn.com

Well that's hardly surprising. Who didn't see that coming?

 

[surly]

I live in a very pro Trump area. My retirement job is at a local grocery store 20 hours a week or so. It is very common to see people without masks and refuse to wear a free one. What I cannot get figured out is what kind of person, if they know wearing masks in large numbers decreases cases and therefore the mortality and morbidity of the virus, what kind of person would make it a political issue and refuse to wear one? Had Trump came out as soon as the science evolved and encouraged mask wearing, the Trump backers would be wearing masks in the shower and to bed at night, not to mention to my grocery store. I really don't like the mandate either, but at this point I don't think the Trump people would wear masks anyway. Silly thing to be arguing about and Americans to be dying over. But here we are.

 

[MT15]

This is an impressive amount indifference to the lives of others. Those guys deserved so much better than this.

 

[superchuck500]

This is an impressive amount indifference to the lives of others. Those guys deserved so much better than this.

I know someone on Ivanka's detail.

I should check in and see how he's doing.

 

[DaveXA]

I know someone on Ivanka's detail.

I should check in and see how he's doing.

Yeah, that would be good to hear.