All Things LGBTQ+ (1 Viewer)

[Farb]

Didn't really see a place for this so I thought I would start a thread about all things LGBTQ since this is a pretty hot topic in our culture right now

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/17/sup...y-that-refuses-to-work-with-lgbt-couples.html

• The Supreme Court on Thursday delivered a unanimous defeat to LGBT couples in a high-profile case over whether Philadelphia could refuse to contract with a Roman Catholic adoption agency that says its religious beliefs prevent it from working with same-sex foster parents.
• Chief Justice John Roberts wrote in an opinion for a majority of the court that Philadelphia violated the First Amendment by refusing to contract with Catholic Social Services once it learned that the organization would not certify same-sex couples for adoption.

I will admit, I was hopeful for this decision by the SCOTUS but I was surprised by the unanimous decision.

While I don't think there is anything wrong, per se, with same sex couples adopting and raising children (I actually think it is a good thing as it not an abortion) but I also did not want to see the state force a religious institution to bend to a societal norm.

 

[LA - L.A.]

Posted this before

It does get tiring and those who don't accept transgenders, always complain about transgender woman. They never have any issues with transgender men. All the wailing against transgender women has The Crying Game vibe to it.

 

[Optimus Prime]

BISMARCK, N.D. (AP) — When North Dakota restricted what bathrooms transgender students can use in public schools and universities this year, the school district in the state’s largest city promised to ignore the new rules. A Republican legislator then called for confiscating its state funding, but the law doesn’t include that possibility.

The defiance in Fargo shows that it’s not exactly clear how bathroom laws will play out in local communities after being enacted in at least 10 states with Republican-controlled legislatures.

Kansas’ GOP attorney general planned to discuss his state’s law Monday, five days before it was to take effect. His view is likely be challenged.

Even Florida’s law, allowing the state to threaten the licenses of educators who don’t comply, says a transgender student or staffer must first be asked to leave a restroom and refuse.

Some schools already have gender-neutral bathrooms and changing spaces or allow trans students to use staff restrooms. In others, trans students try to make it through the day without using a restroom.



Advocates for transgender people worry that bullying will increase.

“Especially in smaller towns where, say, that bullying could be really bad because transgender individuals are really misunderstood,” said Caedmon Marx, outreach chair for LGBTQ+ advocacy group Dakota OutRight and a 23-year-old nonbinary Bismarck State University student.

While the laws focus mostly on transgender students, critics believe they also encourage harassment of trans adults at work and while they’re shopping and eating out — and even harassment of cisgender people, or those whose gender identity matches the sex they were assigned at birth.……

State laws also differ in what they say about enforcement.

If an Oklahoma school violates that state’s 2022 law, its district can lose 5% of its state funding, though none have so far.


Florida schools and universities must have policies for punishing students who don’t comply, and educators who flout the law could risk losing their state licenses. Starting in July 2024, the state attorney general can sue schools that don’t comply.

Arkansas mandates a minimum fine of $1,000 for defiant educators, and Iowa residents can file complaints with the state’s attorney general. Arkansas, Idaho, Oklahoma and Tennessee allow private lawsuits against schools.

But laws in Alabama, Kansas, Kentucky and North Dakota don’t spell out any enforcement regime.

Transgender, nonbinary and gender-nonconforming people and LGBTQ-rights advocates predict that states will rely on “vigilante” enforcement by private individuals.

Sarah Warbelow, legal director for the Human Rights Campaign, expects lawsuits from people “dedicated to making life impossible for transgender people.”…….

In some states with laws on transgender bathrooms, officials may not know how they will be enforced

U.S. states with laws restricting what bathrooms transgender kids can use in public schools are wrestling with how those laws will be enforced.

apnews.com

 

[LA - L.A.]

so then that’s a no to learning what La-La defines a woman as.

For you, yes, that's a no.

 

[Snarky Sack]

For you, yes, that's a no.

How about me?

La - La, what is a woman?

 

[el caliente]

For you, yes, that's a no.

That’s unfortunate, I thought that we could find some common ground.

 

[Snarky Sack]

BISMARCK, N.D. (AP) — When North Dakota

Some schools already have gender-neutral bathrooms and changing spaces or allow trans students to use staff restrooms.

The simple and obvious solution.

In others, trans students try to make it through the day without using a restroom.

That's a lie. The nurses room is available. Or of course they could use the bathroom for their sex.

Advocates for transgender people worry that bullying will increase.

“Especially in smaller towns where, say, that bullying could be really bad because transgender individuals are really misunderstood,” said Caedmon Marx,

Yeah them small town folk are barely used to indoor plumbing yet!

Stereotype much?

Transgender, nonbinary and gender-nonconforming people and LGBTQ-rights advocates predict that states will rely on “vigilante” enforcement by private individuals.

In other words people will say "excuse me! Sir? That's the girls' bathroom, the boys is over there." Sane as they've always done.

Doesn't take Dione Warwick to make that prediction.

Sarah Warbelow, legal director for the Human Rights Campaign, expects lawsuits from people “dedicated to making life impossible for transgender people.”…….

In some states with laws on transgender bathrooms, officials may not know how they will be enforced

U.S. states with laws restricting what bathrooms transgender kids can use in public schools are wrestling with how those laws will be enforced.

apnews.com

Oh the drama . . .

 

[LA - L.A.]

That’s unfortunate, I thought that we could find some common ground.

That's why you refused to answer a question I asked after answering a question you asked, because you were looking to find common ground.

 

[el caliente]

That's why you refused to answer a question I asked after answering a question you asked, because you were looking to find common ground.

What’s the best football team in the NFL?

 

[zztop]

Hypotheticals?

yes, hypothetical scenarios that people like to come up and imagine (where they prey upon poor children) with in order to perpetuate their hate for a minority group. Meanwhile:

 

[Optimus Prime]

I always find it interesting that when it comes to gays/trans issue and schools it's a "scourge that must be stopped, the children must be protected at all and any costs"

But when it comes to school shootings and gun violence the same people just shrug their shoulders and say, “nothing we can do, cost of freedom"

 

[LA - L.A.]

I always find it interesting that when it comes to gays/trans issue and schools it's a "scourge that must be stopped, the children must be protected at all and any costs"

But when it comes to school shootings and gun violence the same people just shrug their shoulders and say, nothing we can do, cost of freedom"

That's a really astute observation and compelling point.

 

[Optimus Prime]

The simple and obvious solution.

That's a lie. The nurses room is available. Or of course they could use the bathroom for their sex.

Yeah them small town folk are barely used to indoor plumbing yet!

Stereotype much?

In other words people will say "excuse me! Sir? That's the girls' bathroom, the boys is over there." Sane as they've always done.

Doesn't take Dione Warwick to make that prediction.

Oh the drama . . .

you don't think that being gay, trans, a minority or in an interracial relationship may play differently in a small rural town than in a big city?

 

[RobF]

Hypotheticals?

But you knew that. You knew that's a chant mocking the propaganda targeting LGBT people. Right?

 

[coldseat]

I wish the right wing would just stop talking about LGBTQ people in any form. Keep LGBTQ people/issues out of their mouths.

I swear that LGBTQ "issues/exposure" would decrease by 60% if the right wing just stopped talking about us. If you really want to see a decrease in LGBTQ exposure and prevalence (as is the claim), then just just talking about us. Simple.

 

[Snarky Sack]

you don't think that being gay, trans, a minority or in an interracial relationship may play differently in a small rural town than in a big city?

I think that it would be different from town to town and from City to city. I think there is little value in stereotyping rural people as being intolerant Bible thumping racists. Not that you are doing that, but that was the impression I got from the article you posted.

 

[Snarky Sack]

But you knew that. You knew that's a chant mocking the propaganda targeting LGBT people. Right?

I had that video posted myself. I deleted it because I came to believe that it is not what it appears to be. Someone on another board floated the theory that it was the cameraman who said "we're coming for your children" and that's why those words were so much more audible than the people chanting. That makes sense so I discount that video.

 

[Bigdaddysaints]

I think that it would be different from town to town and from City to city. I think there is little value in stereotyping rural people as being intolerant Bible thumping racists. Not that you are doing that, but that was the impression I got from the article you posted.

'lets not stereotype people" kinda like saying trans people will rape girls in the bathroom? smh...

 

[Snarky Sack]

'lets not stereotype people" kinda like saying trans people will rape girls in the bathroom? smh...

Wow. So Much Hate huh? For something I never even said.

I said that it presents increased safety concerns to allow males in female bathrooms. Another poster stated that it would be hetero males, not transwomen who would do the raping. I agreed.

Unfortunately, no one seems to be able to tell me how we could know the difference.

But I never said "trans people will rape girls."