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    This is going to need a thread as we move forward - there are now clear signs that Trump supports a new, critical if not dubious approach on vaccination, and his HHS nominee RFK Jr. regularly espouses eating raw milk and raw meat . . . dietary components most experts agree are more dangerous than their heated counterparts.

    Health is certainly one of those areas were anti-institutionalism and turning to popular influencers over medical science comes with genuine risk of harm.

    Today Trump provided his most clear indication that he is a vaccine skeptic - claiming (falsely of course) that the USA doesn't "do as well" as other nations that use no vaccines at all.

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    Scoutster said:
    Do you see any trees or wildlife there? You people are forking hilarious. You and those like you want to pretend you’re all green you’re not do you not get it yet? All about yours and every other humans needs. 🤣

    Again, not so intelligent like I said! self-serving just like most humans.

    Changes made by humans in 2.5 centuries. You’re not green stop pretend to be you care about yourself that’s all you care about.
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    Did you check the second link? I bet you did not.

    A survey supported by Solar Energy UK has found that solar farms deliver significant biodiversity gains and have the potential to offer even more.

    Conducted in collaboration with ecological consultancies Clarkson & Woods and Wychwood Biodiversity, the ‘Solar Habitat 2024: Ecological trends on solar farms in the UK’ study found that solar farms can become “safe havens for biodiversity” and play an “important role” in nature restoration.

    The study analysed a total of 87 solar sites in 2023 employing a standardised methodology, which Solar Energy UK helped develop alongside Lancaster University in 2022.

    Their findings revealed that vulnerable and red-listed species, such as skylarks, are among the most common wildlife present on UK solar farms.

    Yellowhammers, linnets and starlings – all red-listed bird species – were also present at the observed solar sites.

    On the ground, brown hares, a species under conservation concern, made up 40% of mammal observations across the 87 observed sites.

    The report also included a number of case studies which found that it is possible to grow chamomile for commercial use between solar panel rows – an effective application of the concept of ‘agri-PV’.

    Additionally, the report found that planting plugs and pot-grown plants underneath the solar modules have an 80% better survival rate after two years than sowing seeds. The most successful of these were wild garlic and bluebells.

    Report analyst Hollie Blaydes, PhD researcher at Lancaster Environment Centre, Lancaster University, said: “Our understanding of biodiversity at solar farms is growing as more ecological monitoring data are collected across an increasing number of UK solar farms. Groups such as birds and invertebrates appear to respond positively to biodiversity-focused management at solar farms and we hope to continue working with the data


    And yes I saw plenty of green plants on the first one. Usually you don't see wildlife inside peoples houses



    On another note - We're getting a solar farm less than half a km from where we live. It is going to be a 5 acre solar farm combined with a biodiversity program rewilding marginal farm fields
     
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    cuddlemonkey said:
    Here, I circled all of the greenery and vegetation for you:

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    As you can see, it takes up the entire giant rooftop, approximately half of the picture.
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    You are a forking old joke go to bed. That’s not gonna fix global climate change. What do you not get idiot. Show me the tree or the animal otherwise shut the fork up you’re just a another user human pretending to give a shirt about the world when you only care about yourself and what you want.

    You know why people don’t see animals inside their houses because of this! You are a forking idiot trying to pretend to be a green person for the world you’re only pretending to be green for you. I’ve already posted links. green is poisoning the planet still, as well as every other species to keep you in your house with heat as well ac. That’s the difference. I understand my impact, you just can’t accept the fact that you are a problem as well. Again, one more time 2.5 centuries this to this.
     

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    Scoutster said:
    You are a forking old joke go to bed. That’s not gonna fix global climate change. What do you not get idiot. Show me the tree or the animal otherwise shut the fork up you’re just a another user human pretending to give a shirt about the world when you only care about yourself and what you want.
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    Using that kind of language undermines your credibility. Resorting to name-calling is a sign that you’re unable to engage with facts or reasoned arguments. If you want to be taken seriously, it’s important to participate in the discussion respectfully and politely.
     
    Dragon said:
    Did you check the second link? I bet you did not.

    A survey supported by Solar Energy UK has found that solar farms deliver significant biodiversity gains and have the potential to offer even more.

    Conducted in collaboration with ecological consultancies Clarkson & Woods and Wychwood Biodiversity, the ‘Solar Habitat 2024: Ecological trends on solar farms in the UK’ study found that solar farms can become “safe havens for biodiversity” and play an “important role” in nature restoration.

    The study analysed a total of 87 solar sites in 2023 employing a standardised methodology, which Solar Energy UK helped develop alongside Lancaster University in 2022.

    Their findings revealed that vulnerable and red-listed species, such as skylarks, are among the most common wildlife present on UK solar farms.

    Yellowhammers, linnets and starlings – all red-listed bird species – were also present at the observed solar sites.

    On the ground, brown hares, a species under conservation concern, made up 40% of mammal observations across the 87 observed sites.

    The report also included a number of case studies which found that it is possible to grow chamomile for commercial use between solar panel rows – an effective application of the concept of ‘agri-PV’.

    Additionally, the report found that planting plugs and pot-grown plants underneath the solar modules have an 80% better survival rate after two years than sowing seeds. The most successful of these were wild garlic and bluebells.

    Report analyst Hollie Blaydes, PhD researcher at Lancaster Environment Centre, Lancaster University, said: “Our understanding of biodiversity at solar farms is growing as more ecological monitoring data are collected across an increasing number of UK solar farms. Groups such as birds and invertebrates appear to respond positively to biodiversity-focused management at solar farms and we hope to continue working with the data


    And yes I saw plenty of green plants on the first one. Usually you don't see wildlife inside peoples houses
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    Dragon said:
    Using that kind of language undermines your credibility. Resorting to name-calling is a sign that you’re unable to engage with facts or reasoned arguments. If you want to be taken seriously, it’s important to participate in the discussion respectfully and politely.
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    Like I said, go to bed old man or whatever you are.
     
    Dragon said:
    You asked for trees and animals and I provided it. All you have is insults... 🤣 That says a lot more about you lol
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    You do realize that nobody sees trees or animals in this human based area. This is your picture where are the trees,the animals and the forest? All it is something for liberals to claim they’re green you’re a dumbass. You’re an old turd that has lived past his time. Do you not get it, your picture proves nothing? I don’t see trees or animals living as they should. I see human use like every other reasonable person would see. Go to bed, old man or whatever you are! I don’t know what people are used to here, but I am highly intelligent and you’re not! Your entire picture is buildings made by men and women. There’s nothing there that is really wildlife. Go do something in the real world for the wildlife that’s left in this world. You’re a forking idiot.

    This would be something that Elon Musk would post to say he’s green. Are you forking an idiot, really I’m really trying to figure this out because I know most people on these type of boards are old tired, political cult members that should be in nursing homes!
     

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    Scoutster said:
    You do realize that nobody sees trees or animals in this human based area. This is your picture where are the trees,the animals and the forest? All it is something for liberals to claim they’re green you’re a dumbass. You’re an old turd that has lived past his time. Do you not get it, your picture proves nothing? I don’t see trees or animals living as they should. I see human use like every other reasonable person would see. Go to bed, old man or whatever you are! I don’t know what people are used to here, but I am highly intelligent and you’re not! Your entire picture is buildings made by men and women. There’s nothing there that is really wildlife. Go do something in the real world for the wildlife that’s left in this world. You’re a forking idiot.

    This would be something that Elon Musk would post to say he’s green. Are you forking an idiot, really I’m really trying to figure this out because I know most people on these type of boards are old tired, political cult members that should be in nursing homes!
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    And you keep ignoring the second half of my post....so maybe you should look in the mirror before insulting people
     
    RobF said:
    Just to add some objective data to this, let's be polite and just say, overly simplistic idea, if we did actually halve the population of the planet, that would take us all the way back to the population levels we had in... 1974.

    Without addressing what makes population a problem - how people live in an unsustainable way - even the insane notion of killing half of humanity would only take us back less than fifty years.

    Conversely, if people were living sustainably, we wouldn't need to halve the population in the first place. Hence, that's where the attention should be, and largely is, albeit to a still insufficient degree.

    In conclusion, it's not a great idea. To be polite.
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    How dare you question Thanos. Not only is he one of the most power beings. He is a master strategist. Collecting infinity stones and snapping half the universe to dust isn't a simplistic idea. You lack vision.
     
    Dragon said:
    And you keep ignoring the second half of my post....so maybe you should look in the mirror before insulting people
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    🤣 go get some sleep old man or whatever you are cause what you are not green and you don’t give a shirt about the world or all the rest of the species on it surviving. All you care about is you and yours and that’s OK. Just admit it, gosh darned. Be a man for once!
     
    Scoutster said:
    You do realize that nobody sees trees or animals in this human based area. This is your picture where are the trees,the animals and the forest? All it is something for liberals to claim they’re green you’re a dumbass. You’re an old turd that has lived past his time. Do you not get it, your picture proves nothing? I don’t see trees or animals living as they should. I see human use like every other reasonable person would see. Go to bed, old man or whatever you are! I don’t know what people are used to here, but I am highly intelligent and you’re not! Your entire picture is buildings made by men and women. There’s nothing there that is really wildlife. Go do something in the real world for the wildlife that’s left in this world. You’re a forking idiot.

    This would be something that Elon Musk would post to say he’s green. Are you forking an idiot, really I’m really trying to figure this out because I know most people on these type of boards are old tired, political cult members that should be in nursing homes!
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    I went ahead and found those for you, too:

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    I didn't highlight all of them, of course. I figured it might be fun for you to try to find the rest.
     
    cuddlemonkey said:
    I went ahead and found those for you, too:

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    I didn't highlight all of them, of course. I figured it might be fun for you to try to find the rest.
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    Oh my God this is too hilarious. Go to bed old man, there’s nothing of real wildlife in your picture. Do you not understand that, go try to enjoy your life and stop living in a message board trying to be important because you’re not you never have been you’re never gonna be that’s why you’re here.
     
    Donald Trump’s promise to upend public health policy across the US by installing Robert F Kennedy Jr as health secretary is resonating in Florida, where experts say the nation can learn from its own experience of a vaccine-denying state surgeon with unorthodox scientific views.

    Like Kennedy’s relationship with the incoming president, Dr Joseph Ladapo was championed by, and is closely aligned to, a powerful rightwing political leader – Ron DeSantis, Florida’s Republican governor.

    Since Ladapo’s February 2022 swearing-in, he has been at the heart of several controversies. Some have included advising parents to send unvaccinated children to school during a measles outbreak, personally manipulating a study to try to show Covid-19 vaccines pose a greater health risk than they do and urging municipalities to remove fluoride from drinking water despite proven dental health benefits.


    His fringe opinions, and public guidance often in direct contravention of that from the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), are parallel to those of Kennedy, an equally polarizing figure who has peddled numerous conspiracy theories including the discredited link between vaccines and autism, promoted raw milk and denigrated the pharmaceutical industry.

    Florida’s experience could soon become that of the wider US, experts fear, if Kennedy is confirmed by the Senate and allowed to convert some of his more extreme beliefs into federal public health policy.……

    www.theguardian.com

    How worried should we be about RFK Jr as health secretary? Ask Florida

    Florida’s surgeon general Joseph Ladapo has given free rein to his own unorthodox views on vaccines and public health
    www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
     
    horse2H5 said:
    According to Leo, masculine men have an esteem problem, yet the LGBTQ community is leading the charge in mental health problems. Hmmmm, how does this add up?
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    Members of the LGBTQ community face scorn, discrimination, and denial of basic services. They are repeatedly attacked in the media and by certain political circles. It's a relentless campaign against their very existence, with some paying the ultimate price. This is all because certain people feel entitled to dictate how other adults should live their lives, as if it's any of their business.
     
    horse2H5 said:
    According to Leo, masculine men have an esteem problem, yet the LGBTQ community is leading the charge in mental health problems. Hmmmm, how does this add up?
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    So, a group of people who have been abused, ostracized, threatened for multiple decades seek mental healthcare. And this surprises you. Oh, and please supply a link to your assertion that they are “leading the charge in mental health problems.” Or, perhaps, you think being gay is a mental disorder.

    Yet, males, particularly white males feel inferior and resort to supporting vermin like Andrew Tate or Nick Fuentes and spout schlitz like “Jews will not replace us” or adhere to the so-called Great Replacement Theory. Am I to assume from your response that they do not need mental healthcare? Or perhaps your position is that males must be in positions of authority and are entitled to success by virtue of their maleness in general and white maleness in particular?
     

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