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    BobE said:
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    Archived for November 2020

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    Folks need to take it easy on Biden. I wonder with all his stuttering and forgetting if he has some sort of mild, early onset dementia (not trying to joke about this either). He is a respectable guy with a record that isn't very great in this day and age.

    I'm actually kind of glad folks are finally taking jabs at Buttigieg. The dude is unashamed about his corporatist donor base. He's finding out very quickly 'let's just beat Trump and who cares about setting an ethical standard' may not work for him this go round.

    Klobuchar laughed most of the time but did make a few good points. She doesn't have a shot but I do like a few of her ideas and think she's very genuine.

    Top 4 still interchangeable. But you saw that Warren was all the rage a few months ago, and now her poll numbers have sunk while Bernie and Buttigieg's have risen, etc. There's still a long time until next Fall, and any one of those 4 being the nominee is more or less a done deal.
     
    Heathen said:
    I'm actually kind of glad folks are finally taking jabs at Buttigieg. The dude is unashamed about his corporatist donor base. He's finding out very quickly 'let's just beat Trump and who cares about setting an ethical standard' may not work for him this go round.
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    You realize Buttigieg was the ONLY one on that stage who was not a millionaire?
     
    Intensesaint said:
    You realize Buttigieg was the ONLY one on that stage who was not a millionaire?
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    Yes, I've known this for awhile. What does that have to do with the statement you quoted?

    If you're (candidate) someone who wants to set a new standard where money doesn't dominate our political system and the voice of the individual is as powerful as possible as the constitution intended, why would you freely and openly accept lobbyist money? Then feel guilty and return it?

    I think the answer to that is 'he didn't care about it in the first place'.
     
    GrandAdmiral said:
    Damn. I would have never thought #NeverPete would become a thing.

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    #NeverPete: How Buttigieg has drawn the fury of the online left

    Pete Buttigieg was getting a signal to wrap up his Iowa town hall, but he first gestured to the gathering of young people crouched near the stage as they clutched handmade signs.
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    I read this a few days ago. Those kids, sorry to say, are stupid.

    I mean, read this and make sense of it.

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    Another: "Youth to Pete: You will Kill Us."
    "No, I won't! 'You will kill us?' That's really mean!" Buttigieg exclaimed. "I'm here to help you!"
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    The huh?
    "I thought it was condescending," said Dylan Bremner, 22, one of the students who protested Buttigieg over his plan to address climate change. "When he said 'That's mean,' I think it's pretty f***ing mean that you're not going to save us."
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    Pete's been the one exclaiming how he's the one young enough to have to live in the world still if we don't do anything about climate change. They're barking up the wrong tree... and honestly, in a pretty silly way. What the heck did Dylan even mean there?
     
    insidejob said:
    And I'd love to be able to use the word polyglot more often so the longer he's in the race, the better. I've been Team Mayor Pete pretty much since the beginning. He just seems to be the most authentic candidate out of all of them. When he doesn't know something, he goes and learns it. He doesn't just learn how to answer a difficult question, he seems to actually go learn everything possible in the amount of time he's got.

    I think after another 8 months or so of him being on the trail, he'll be able to pick up a lot of people who aren't considering him now - as long as he remains authentic. And if he doesn't get the nomination, whoever does should think long and hard about making him their VP running mate. He could go toe to toe with Pence - especially over Pence's (and family's) illegal doings with their gas stations that made them rich while destroying the ecosystem surrounding virtually every shuttered gas station they have across the state.
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    I was at an event with his Husband. I decided not to go out of my way to speak with him personally (there was a crowd, and may activists). I'll just say this. Chasten is an authentic person. When he started talking about growing up in Northern Michigan and how his High school drama program helped/saved him, and how before Pete he was in an abusive relationship.. I mean, you saw it on his face.

    The way he spoke about Pete though.. I mean, you could just feel positive energy. Hard to explain. He told a cute story about how Pete likes to leave little notes, even while they're both on the trail (Chasten made a joke.... I have no idea where my husband is today).

    There's just something about them.
     
    wardorican said:
    Pete's been the one exclaiming how he's the one young enough to have to live in the world still if we don't do anything about climate change. They're barking up the wrong tree... and honestly, in a pretty silly way. What the heck did Dylan even mean there?
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    Welcome to every protest at any non-Republican event; same type of dumbasses who think they are activists because they make signs and chant crap against their very only hope.

    And just like those who "felt the Bern", then threw a tantrum when he didn't get the nomination and didn't vote, one of the reasons why Trump will be with us until 2024.
     
    It doesnt matter who wins the nomination.. There will be folks who declare themselves 'never (insert candidates name here'. It's people. Don't be shocked when it happens again this election.

    Maybe we will finally nominate someone that unlike Clinton actually talks the talk and walks the walk on workers rights and trade in key Rust Belt states, key to carrying those states and winning the presidency. Trump is now very weak here and there's opportunity for Democrats to become the blue collar party again.
     
    Heathen said:
    Yes, I've known this for awhile. What does that have to do with the statement you quoted?

    If you're (candidate) someone who wants to set a new standard where money doesn't dominate our political system and the voice of the individual is as powerful as possible as the constitution intended, why would you freely and openly accept lobbyist money? Then feel guilty and return it?

    I think the answer to that is 'he didn't care about it in the first place'.
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    Because everyone on that stage has taken money from wealthy donors and PAC's. Even the "Gloriously Grassrooted" Bernie is over a million dollars from them in his career, and even over a million this election cycle from "corporate" interests.

    It's a purity test being weaponized is a way to get the young kid out of the race because he can't yet compete on the same footing as they with their decades of public name recognition and fundraising can.
     

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