Trump VP selection process begins (3 Viewers)

MT15 said:

The congressional district that includes Butler County was what he was referring to, not the county. He was the one who won that district, so I would imagine he remembers the votes for it.

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Here is the district map.


Here is the vote breakdown.


Butler county is in district 8.

Butler 62%, Prebble 77.5%, Darke 80.9%, Miami 71.6%, Clark 61.3%, Mercer 80.9%

Warren Davidson is the Representative(R)

So you must be talking about my buddy Greg. Who is District 1, Hamilton County 42% Vance and Warren County 64.5% Vance. Not an inch of Butler County. So Greg is talking about the Hamilton county part of his district where Vance has his Ohio home, in a very ,very liberal area. Not where Vance grew grew up, Butler County.

I’m surprised Vance got 42% in my area.

Sendai said:

Here is the district map.

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www.politico.com

Butler county is in district 8.

Butler 62%, Prebble 77.5%, Darke 80.9%, Miami 71.6%, Clark 61.3%, Mercer 80.9%

Warren Davidson is the Representative(R)

So you must be talking about my buddy Greg. Who is District 1, Hamilton County 42% Vance and Warren County 64.5% Vance. Not an inch of Butler County. So Greg is talking about the Hamilton county part of his district where Vance has his Ohio home, in a very ,very liberal area. Not where Vance grew grew up, Butler County.

I’m surprised Vance got 42% in my area.

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How close is that to Kent? I have a good friend that grew up in Kent.

She was already looney, but now she's made her account private after her idiotic statement

On a trip home to Ohio soon after starting at Yale Law School, JD Vance stopped for gas and noticed a woman in a Yale T-shirt. When he asked about it, she said her nephew attended the Ivy League school — and asked whether Vance did, too.

“I had to choose: Was I a Yale Law student, or was I a Middletown kid with hillbilly grandparents?” Vance recalled in his memoir, “Hillbilly Elegy.”

If he admitted going to Yale, he and the woman “could exchange pleasantries,” Vance wrote. But if he denied his Yale ties, the woman would deem him one of “the unsophisticates of Ohio [who] clung to their guns and religion.” An unbridgeable gap would open: The woman would move to “the other side of an invisible divide,” Vance wrote.

His fear in that moment has since become a theory he often repeats: that America is a divided nation, split between liberal elites and regular, conservative people. It was a keynote theme of his best-selling book, which earned national acclaim, became a movie and paved his way to the U.S. Senate — and, this summer, helped him earn the vice-presidential nod from Donald Trump.

In a speech accepting the nomination at the Republican National Convention this month, Vance sounded the same note, lamenting the “divide between the few, with their power and comfort in Washington, and the rest of us.” Then he promised to surmount it: “I will be a vice president,” he said, “who never forgets where he came from.”

It was his years at Ohio State University and Yale Law that taught Vance to see America as divided, and how to use that division, according to a review of his public and private writings at Ohio State and Yale, as well as interviews with more than a dozen of Vance’s friends, former classmates and professors. At first, Vance pitched himself as an author who could explain the divide, people interviewed said. In later years, he became a politician who would build his appeal around it.

A spokeswoman for the Vance campaign declined to comment.

Opponents allege that Vance is drawing on skills and insight gained through his privileged education to exploit national division for personal and political gain.

“He is using his tremendous intelligence and thoughtfulness to deliberately choose contempt as a political strategy, as opposed to building the bridges he used to talk about building,” said Josh McLaurin, a Democratic senator from Georgia who was Vance’s roommate at Yale and is an outspoken critic of his politics.

Supporters agreed that school made Vance more aware of the country’s political, cultural and socioeconomic split. He used that knowledge, and his experience with the working and wealthy classes, to reach people on either side, they said...............

How is this different than the "devious lies" Harrison Butker was talking about?
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Donald Trump’s vice presidential pick JD Vance said in 2021 that “we have to go to war” against the idea that women can decide not to have children, suggesting that someone who focuses on building their career instead of making babies will be “a sad, lonely, pathetic person.”

In an interview with The Federalist in May 2021, Vance was asked what he thinks conservatives can do to encourage Americans to have more kids. He suggested cultural messaging is key.

“To be a little stark about this, I think we have to go to war against the anti-child ideology that exists in our country,” said Vance, who is currently the Republican senator from Ohio.

While he generally didn’t specify the gender of the childless people he was criticizing, the context of his remarks made them appear aimed primarily at women.

Citing a conversation that had recently unfolded on Twitter, Vance described a “ridiculous effort by millennial feminist writers” to talk about why there are good reasons not to have children, how some of them were glad they didn’t have kids and even some “encouraging people who had had children to talk about why they regretted having children.”

He criticized these unnamed “mediocre millennial journalists” and suggested that if they’re advocating for women to focus on advancing their careers over making babies, they are “pathetic.”

“Not enough people have accepted that if they put their entire life’s meaning into their credential, into where they went to school, into what kind of job they have. If you put all of your life’s meaning into that, you’re going to be the sort of person who asks women to talk about how they regret having children,” Vance said.

He added, “You’re going to be a sad, lonely, pathetic person and you’re going to know it internally.”.

The GOP vice presidential nominee went on to say that people who have had children “have actually built something more meaningful with their lives,” and that is why “we have to go to war against that ideology and the people behind it.”..............

Manchin gets in on the fun
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Sen. Joe Manchin (I-W.Va.) on Tuesday took a swipe at Sen. JD Vance (R-Ohio), calling his past comments about “childless cat ladies” “very weird” as the vice-presidential candidate faces backlash over his comments on people who do not have kids.

When asked on Tuesday about Vance’s controversial comments, “That truly is just a weird position to take. I’ve never heard that before. It was very weird. I couldn’t believe it.”........

Optimus Prime said:

On a trip home to Ohio soon after starting at Yale Law School, JD Vance stopped for gas and noticed a woman in a Yale T-shirt. When he asked about it, she said her nephew attended the Ivy League school — and asked whether Vance did, too.

“I had to choose: Was I a Yale Law student, or was I a Middletown kid with hillbilly grandparents?” Vance recalled in his memoir, “Hillbilly Elegy.”

If he admitted going to Yale, he and the woman “could exchange pleasantries,” Vance wrote. But if he denied his Yale ties, the woman would deem him one of “the unsophisticates of Ohio [who] clung to their guns and religion.” An unbridgeable gap would open: The woman would move to “the other side of an invisible divide,” Vance wrote.

His fear in that moment has since become a theory he often repeats: that America is a divided nation, split between liberal elites and regular, conservative people. It was a keynote theme of his best-selling book, which earned national acclaim, became a movie and paved his way to the U.S. Senate — and, this summer, helped him earn the vice-presidential nod from Donald Trump.

In a speech accepting the nomination at the Republican National Convention this month, Vance sounded the same note, lamenting the “divide between the few, with their power and comfort in Washington, and the rest of us.” Then he promised to surmount it: “I will be a vice president,” he said, “who never forgets where he came from.”

It was his years at Ohio State University and Yale Law that taught Vance to see America as divided, and how to use that division, according to a review of his public and private writings at Ohio State and Yale, as well as interviews with more than a dozen of Vance’s friends, former classmates and professors. At first, Vance pitched himself as an author who could explain the divide, people interviewed said. In later years, he became a politician who would build his appeal around it.

A spokeswoman for the Vance campaign declined to comment.

Opponents allege that Vance is drawing on skills and insight gained through his privileged education to exploit national division for personal and political gain.

“He is using his tremendous intelligence and thoughtfulness to deliberately choose contempt as a political strategy, as opposed to building the bridges he used to talk about building,” said Josh McLaurin, a Democratic senator from Georgia who was Vance’s roommate at Yale and is an outspoken critic of his politics.

Supporters agreed that school made Vance more aware of the country’s political, cultural and socioeconomic split. He used that knowledge, and his experience with the working and wealthy classes, to reach people on either side, they said...............

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So when he met the lady with the Yale shirt he thought that his choices were to admit to being educated and having no substantive conversation, or pretend to be uneducated and deal with the aftermath? He's suggesting that he could not be honest about his education and background. That is bull. Don't hillbilly parents teach their kids that honesty is the best policy? I suspect most do. Maybe his parents didn't, but I suspect it isn't the fact that he was raised by dishonest hillbillies, but rather than he chose not to heed their advice. He's a hypocrite and I agree with his opponents that he is exploiting his education to pretend to be what he is not to gain power, rather than someone that earnestly wants to bridge the divide.

Well color me surprised- MAGAs RAIL against "corporate overlords" in favor of "billionaire tech overlors"

Here is a quick 20 post thread on just who JD Vance REALLY is.....


im sure this will garner NO REPLY from @SaintForLife because, well, as we all know, its "ok when WE do it"

Optimus Prime said:

I had to choose: Was I a Yale Law student, or was I a Middletown kid with hillbilly grandparents?” Vance recalled in his memoir, “Hillbilly Elegy.”

If he admitted going to Yale, he and the woman “could exchange pleasantries,” Vance wrote. But if he denied his Yale ties, the woman would deem him one of “the unsophisticates of Ohio [who] clung to their guns and religion.” An unbridgeable gap would open: The woman would move to “the other side of an invisible divide,” Vance wrote.

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I’m sorry - this is a very weird take.

MT15 said:

I’m sorry - this is a very weird take.

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and it may be one of those stories that never happened

Trump took one for Vance today at the NABJ interview. JD Vance who? What couches?

Well, Vance is trying to get back in the game. Imagine you’re a man who has changed his name at least 3 times and changed his moral compass more times than that and standing there saying this without a trace of self-awareness.

efil4 said:

Well color me surprised- MAGAs RAIL against "corporate overlords" in favor of "billionaire tech overlors"

Here is a quick 20 post thread on just who JD Vance REALLY is.....


im sure this will garner NO REPLY from @SaintForLife because, well, as we all know, its "ok when WE do it"

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Here's the thread unrolled without media for anyone interested. I bolded points of interest to me and red text are my comments:

"In today’s #vatniksoup, I’ll introduce an American politician and author, JD Vance (@JDVance). He’s best-known for his strong stance against US aid to Ukraine, and for being the Republican party’s nominee for vice president in the 2024 election.1/20

Vance hails from the small town of Middletown, Ohio. His parents divorced when he was a toddler, JD’s mother struggled with drug addiction, and he was raised primarily by his grandparents. Later he enlisted in the US Marine Corps, and spent 6 months as a PR guy in Iraq.2/20

In 2016, Harper published JD’s book, Hillbilly Elegy, in which he described his life and hardships, and the socioeconomic problems of his hometown. The book was very successful, and it was even adapted into a shirty Netflix movie. It also made JD famous.3/20

During this time, JD had also moved to San Francisco to work as a venture capitalist in the tech industry, even (allegedly) working for Elon Musk’s and David Sacks’ old buddy, Peter Thiel in his firm Mithril Capital (Mithril is the the fictional shiny, super strong and lightweight metal from The Lord of The Rings) between 2016 and 2017.4/20

But Vance had higher ambitions, and for those he had to move back to Ohio. First, he launched a non-profit organization that was supposed to focus on education, addiction, and other socioeconomic issues he had described in his book. The organization closed down just two…5/20

…years after its launch with very few accomplishments. In 2022, JD’s rival Tim Ryan claimed that the NGO was a front for his political ambitions, and later Business Insider reported that it had spent more on Vance’s political advisor than on programs to fight opioid abuse.6/20

And Vance’s old friend Peter Thiel also chipped in - he put a staggering 15 million USD into JD’s campaign to run for senator in 2022. Thiel had previously financed Vance’s venture firm Narya Capital that later helped fund the “alt-right” video platform Rumble.7/20

As most of you have noticed, Vance has been a pretty bad choice for Trump as a VP candidate - he’s awkward, uncharismatic, not funny, and also extremely hostile. For example, after the Trump assassination attempt, he quickly blamed Biden for the incident.8/20

So why was JD picked? My bet is on money. Vance’s connections to Silicon Valley investors like Peter Thiel, Elon Musk, Ben Horowicz, Marc Andreessen and David Sacks bring in huge campaign contributions to Trump who at times has been strapped for cash.9/20

In return, Vance has allegedly promised to deregulate crypto and remove safeguards around AI development. And as an investor, having your favorite candidate in the White House can’t be bad for business, eh?10/20

Like his investor buddies, JD is also extremely opportunistic. In 2016, he was strongly against Trump’s presidency, calling him “divisive and arrogant” and “America’s Hitler”, referring to himself as a “never Trump guy” and calling Trump’s voters “idiots”.11/20

But apparently his wealthy overlords changed their minds about Trump: in 2021, after announcing his senate candidacy, JD had been politically cuckolded by Trump. This led to JD deleting some of his old social media posts and publicly apologizing for his past behavior.12/20

And like Trump, Vance also has a way of polarizing whole societies. He’s alienated a bunch of voters by saying that people without children are often "most sociopathic,” “psychotic,” and “deranged”. He’s also suggested that people without children should pay more taxes.13/20

Probably in order to suck up to Trump, Vance has parroted the claims that the 2020 election was stolen and that the Jan 6 rioters are unjustly prosecuted. He’s also said that journalists should be investigated for “colluding against Trump” in 2020.14/20

JD’s stance on the Russo-Ukrainian War has been in line with the tech bros that support him. In Apr 2022, he stated that “I don’t really care what happens to Ukraine one way or the other”.JD hasn’t also been shy about sharing literal Russian disinformation, when he…15/20

… claimed that the US is sending money to Ukraine “so that one of Zelenskyy’s ministers can buy a bigger yacht”. The fake story about Zelenskyy (not his ministers) buying a yacht was spread by super-vatnik and conman John Mark Dougan:https://t.co/L9ZjoiP7Ut16/20

In today's #vatniksoup, I'll introduce an American propagandist, Florida Man and ex-cop, John "Badvolf" Mark Dougan (@RealBadVolf). He's best-known for his battle against the Palm Beach County Sheriff’s Office, and for his propaganda work for the Kremlin.

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— Pekka Kallioniemi (@P_Kallioniemi) April 19, 2023

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He’s also published a Senate memo claiming that Ukraine isn’t accounting for the aid they’re given (Ukraine established a parliamentary commission for this sole purpose in 2022) & that Ukraine has too few soldiers - the latter may be true at this point, but they now have…17/20

… 14 fresh and trained brigades waiting to rotate to the frontlines, but the troops are not properly armed due to delays in Western aid. And as most of you know, these life-costing delays were mostly due to political decisions made by JD’s MAGA gang & speaker Mike Johnson.18/20

He’s also stated that Ukraine should just cede land and cut a deal with Putin - a man who has broken pretty much every treaty and ceasefire in the past. JD apparently also ignores the fact that Russia is now funneling 35% of total government spending on military.19/20

To conclude,JD is a VP candidate that was probably chosen because he brings in a lot of money from the tech bros.He doesn’t seem to have any set of permanent values & his former roommate called him a “sellout”, “angry”, “vindictive”, & “the perfect fit for Trump’s revenge”.20/20"

The hits just keep coming for this guy

Oh, and a right wing discussion on race and poverty sounds like a fun time

SaintForLife said:

Kamala is best known for her questionable actions as a prosecutor.



"Kamala Harris said something to the effect that I have no loyalty to this country. Well I don't know Kamala. I did serve in the U.S. Marine Corps and build a business. What the hell have you done other than collect a check from her political offices? I guess we have to give her credit: She did serve as 'border czar' during the biggest disaster open border we've ever had."

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She’s too tough on crime and wants to defund the police.

Seems like typical MAGA logic.

another old clip

This aged poorly

add to the pile of anti woman sentiment

Yet another clip from Vance railing against people who don’t have children. It’s a really weird take.