Election Night (+4) in America - Result: Biden Elected President (12 Viewers)

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    The PA lawsuit...

    Trump campaign observers can stand closer while watching ballot processing in Philadelphia, court rules
    From CNN's By Katelyn Polantz

    A Pennsylvania court ruled that Trump campaign observers could stand closer to watch ballot processing in Philadelphia—a relatively inconsequential ruling that Trump campaign associates quickly touted as being a massive win. Votes that could decide the state are still being counted there.
    No court has found wrongdoing in the ballot-counting process in Philadelphia.
    “It allows their observers to stand a little closer, but it is not an order that will have any impact on the outcome of the election,” law professor and CNN elections analyst Franita Tolson said Thursday, noting that the decision was “not massive at all.”
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    wardorican said:
    Well lord, I hope none of those three end up being on the SCOTUS..... let's not tempt fate.
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    I love how sekulow looks like an adult Milhouse from the simpsons.

    Besides that it is all I like about that bunch.

    And yes it is truly telling that the republican party is not helping with any lawyers.
     
    Georgia... 14,250....

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    In Georgia, there are no automatic recounts but a candidate may request one if the margin is under half a percent. In Nevada, any candidate may request a recount -- there is no threshold. No automatic recount in Wisconsin, but a candidate may request one if the margin is one percent or less.
     
    SaulGoodmanEsq said:
    In Georgia, there are no automatic recounts but a candidate may request one if the margin is under half a percent.
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    I wonder if it’s like Wisconsin where the person requesting the recount has to pay up front for the cost of the recount (in WI it’s going to be around $3.5 mil).

    Does the Trump campaign have that kind of cash? Would Trump pay it out of his own pocket?
     
    SaulGoodmanEsq said:
    You can be sure the GOP establishment despises Trump. If they see any kind of opening to get rid of him, they'll take it. Having four years of Biden makes it easier for a GOP establishment candidate to win in 2024 -- after the GOP modifies its primary process so a guy like Trump can't win again. Assuming Biden steps out after a single term (which is probably the plan), I have doubts as to whether Kamala Harris would win when half the country still supports Trump. Hell, I have doubts Harris would even win the Democratic nomination.

    Conversely, if Trump wins reelection then the GOP is forever Trump. And you'll see Ivanka pushed on to the GOP in 2024.
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    Probably a different thread, but I feel almost the exact opposite. Trump may lose, but he has cemented himself as GOP kingmaker for a while I think. Much like the Clintons, he is part of the soul of that party now. He can primary people, control campaign donations, and use Twitter to elevate or crush GOP politicians. I think he'll even keep going with the rallies, but charge for them.

    There is no GOP anymore, there is only MAGA. It is what Trump says it is, and that's not ending.
     
    FullMonte said:
    I wonder if it’s like Wisconsin where the person requesting the recount has to pay up front for the cost of the recount (in WI it’s going to be around $3.5 mil).

    Does the Trump campaign have that kind of cash? Would Trump pay it out of his own pocket?
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    No, he will just get his rube followers to foot the bill. Both sides are already raising donations for this process.
     
    FullMonte said:
    I wonder if it’s like Wisconsin where the person requesting the recount has to pay up front for the cost of the recount (in WI it’s going to be around $3.5 mil).

    Does the Trump campaign have that kind of cash? Would Trump pay it out of his own pocket?
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    If there's any possible way they can get a recount, even an unofficial one, then welch on the bill, that's what they'll do.
     
    I feel like I'm watching turtles Do something...but it ain't racing
    SaulGoodmanEsq said:
    No, he will just get his rube followers to foot the bill. Both sides are already raising donations for this process.
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    Or...he can use his corrupted DOJ to fight his personal battles since there is already a sort of precedent...and we'd all pay for it, in more ways than one
     
    wardorican said:
    FYI, from CNN.

    Looks like the majority of these ballots in the mail are for California. So, no real impact. They didn't give an exact number. A very small number can't be counted, because those states don't allow it.
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    Well, if those are almost all California ballots, it seems this isn't going to affect any of the 4 states still uncalled.
     
    Saint by the Bay said:
    Probably a different thread, but I feel almost the exact opposite. Trump may lose, but he has cemented himself as GOP kingmaker for a while I think. Much like the Clintons, he is part of the soul of that party now. He can primary people, control campaign donations, and use Twitter to elevate or crush GOP politicians. I think he'll even keep going with the rallies, but charge for them.

    There is no GOP anymore, there is only MAGA. It is what Trump says it is, and that's not ending.
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    Maybe, but I doubt it will last long. I'll be very surprised if he doesn't flee the country. If he does, the establishment, many of whom have long despised Trump, will be happy to fill the void.
     
    V Chip said:
    I don't have as much hope in the runoffs if they both go there, but...

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    I was just saying in the Senate thread I think the big hitters would be in GA pushing these candidates big time. Also if Trump loses, he won't help any of the candidates. I think the Trump voters will be down and Biden voters will be energized with just winning the WH.
     

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