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    Maxp

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    I fear we are really going to be in a bad place due to the obvious cuts to the federal agencies that deal with infectious disease, but also the negative effect the Affordable Care act has had on non urban hospitals. Our front line defenses are ineffectual and our ability to treat the populous is probably at an all time low. Factor in the cost of healthcare and I can see our system crashing. What do you think about the politics of this virus?
     
    Infoman said:
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    Food for the weekend thought... Be well all!
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    Now you're complaining about politics on the politics site?

    Seriously, get out.
     
    This is the kind of idiocy we are dealing with in Georgia.

    Who cares if your kid is sick, or your kid/teacher can catch COVID from someone else? Anything goes when supporting their party and owning the libs!!


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    V Chip said:
    This is the kind of idiocy we are dealing with in Georgia.

    Who cares if your kid is sick, or your kid/teacher can catch COVID from someone else? Anything goes when supporting their party and owning the libs!!


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    Wow. They found an idiot on Facebook. Do you know how easy it is to do that for either side?
     
    SaintForLife said:
    Wow. They found an idiot on Facebook. Do you know how easy it is to do that for either side?
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    It's not just "an" idiot though, and I'm pretty sure even you know that. This isn't the only example, there are tons more like our Governor and most of our legislature. Heck, we're pretty much going to elect a QAnon member to Congress. This isn't some random loon. This is what a scary percent of Georgia conservatives believe.
     
    V Chip said:
    It's not just "an" idiot though, and I'm pretty sure even you know that. This isn't the only example, there are tons more like our Governor and most of our legislature. Heck, we're pretty much going to elect a QAnon member to Congress. This isn't some random loon. This is what a scary percent of Georgia conservatives believe.
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    This article may be a long read but is an accurate representation of why we are where we are.

    Americans often misperceive historical inequities as personal failures. Stephen Huffman, a Republican state senator and doctor in Ohio, suggested that Black Americans might be more prone to COVID‑19 because they don’t wash their hands enough, a remark for which he later apologized. Republican Senator Bill Cassidy of Louisiana, also a physician, noted that Black people have higher rates of chronic disease, as if this were an answer in itself, and not a pattern that demanded further explanation.
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    Americans were in the mood for systemic change. Then, on May 25, George Floyd, who had survived COVID‑19’s assault on his airway, asphyxiated under the crushing pressure of a police officer’s knee. The excruciating video of his killing circulated through communities that were still reeling from the deaths of Breonna Taylor and Ahmaud Arbery, and disproportionate casualties from COVID‑19. America’s simmering outrage came to a boil and spilled into its streets.

    Defiant and largely cloaked in masks, protesters turned out in more than 2,000 cities and towns. Support for Black Lives Matter soared: For the first time since its founding in 2013, the movement had majority approval across racial groups. These protests were not about the pandemic, but individual protesters had been primed by months of shocking governmental missteps. Even people who might once have ignored evidence of police brutality recognized yet another broken institution. They could no longer look away.

    It is hard to stare directly at the biggest problems of our age. Pandemics, climate change, the sixth extinction of wildlife, food and water shortages—their scope is planetary, and their stakes are overwhelming. We have no choice, though, but to grapple with them. It is now abundantly clear what happens when global disasters collide with historical negligence.

    COVID‑19 is an assault on America’s body, and a referendum on the ideas that animate its culture. Recovery is possible, but it demands radical introspection. America would be wise to help reverse the ruination of the natural world, a process that continues to shunt animal diseases into human bodies. It should strive to prevent sickness instead of profiting from it. It should build a health-care system that prizes resilience over brittle efficiency, and an information system that favors light over heat. It should rebuild its international alliances, its social safety net, and its trust in empiricism. It should address the health inequities that flow from its history. Not least, it should elect leaders with sound judgment, high character, and respect for science, logic, and reason.

    The pandemic has been both tragedy and teacher. Its very etymology offers a clue about what is at stake in the greatest challenges of the future, and what is needed to address them. Pandemic. Pan and demos. All people.
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    www.theatlantic.com

    How the Pandemic Defeated America

    A virus has brought the world’s most powerful country to its knees.
    www.theatlantic.com www.theatlantic.com

    It's the Atlantic, so you have to have the time to read it but it's definitely worth the time.
     
    It seems that Trump's younger brother has died and it was apparently COVID-19 related. While we can all hope that having had a close relative die will make the pandemic more "real" for Trump, I also hope that those who would like to see him defeated in November will not use his brother's death to score political points.
     
    Richard said:
    It seems that Trump's younger brother has died and it was apparently COVID-19 related. While we can all hope that having had a close relative die will make the pandemic more "real" for Trump, I also hope that those who would like to see him defeated in November will not use his brother's death to score political points.
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    Apparently Trump’s brother, just anecdotally from some things I’ve read (no link) was a pretty scummy guy himself.. So it sounds like not too many tears will be shed, outside of his own family.. so let’s give them respect like we would any family.. but rest assured, just like ‘they’ say after a school shooting, it’s ‘too soon’ to discuss anything related to the actual problem- I’m sure a certain political party will say it’s ‘too soon’ to discuss anything Covid related , even if it did lead to the death of brother Trump.. that said, this is the first I’m hearing of his death being Covid related.
     
    I haven’t seen anything about Covid, either, Richard. It does make sense, though, just hadn’t seen any cause of death given yet.
     
    insidejob said:
    This article may be a long read but is an accurate representation of why we are where we are.





    www.theatlantic.com

    How the Pandemic Defeated America

    A virus has brought the world’s most powerful country to its knees.
    www.theatlantic.com www.theatlantic.com

    It's the Atlantic, so you have to have the time to read it but it's definitely worth the time.
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    Another thing related to Trump's deliberate crippling of the Post Office is Covid testing.
    All those samples, millions of them, have to get from the school/office/factory/hospital where they're collected to a testing lab.
    This cannot be done electronically, they're physical objects.
    So at a time when USPS should be given all the funding and support we can possibly muster, Trump is unfunding it.
    This will prevent the kind of one-day-result testing we absolutely must have in order to fully reopen.
    At every step, in every way, Trump provides aid and comfort to our enemy and deliberately harms Americans.
    He couldn't hurt the nation more if he got in an F22 and joined Al-Qaeda.
    He's a filthy traitor, plain and clear.
     
    MT15 said:
    I haven’t seen anything about Covid, either, Richard. It does make sense, though, just hadn’t seen any cause of death given yet.
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    The initial alert I got on my phone a couple of days ago indicated that he was being hospitalized with the virus, but I suppose they could have been mistaken.
     
    Richard said:
    The initial alert I got on my phone a couple of days ago indicated that he was being hospitalized with the virus, but I suppose they could have been mistaken.
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    So, educated guess, (and only a guess) is that he may have had Covid and had to be put on a blood thinner due to complications. This is not uncommon from my experience at the hospital, a fair number of Covid patients have thrombotic complications. (Anecdotally, neighbor two doors down is now permanently on oxygen after “recovering” from Covid, which is not uncommon as well. It’s not like it’s always over when the infection clears.)

    Anyway, calibrating dosage of anticoagulants can be tricky, and if he was overdosed and fell and hit his head it could cause a cerebral hemorrhage. Just some idle guesswork on my part.
     
    insidejob said:
    www.newsbreakapp.com

    (CNN) — Leaders at the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention were blindsided this week when President Donald Trump announced that the agency could deploy... - NewsBreak

    (CNN) — Leaders at the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention were blindsided this week when President Donald Trump announced that the agency could deploy...
    www.newsbreakapp.com www.newsbreakapp.com

    More to chew on
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    And, of course, the CDC has no idea this is a thing they're supposed to be able to do.
    Yeah, I'm just so tired of this winning.
     
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