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    Unions are good. In many lines of work, if you as one of many employees don’t want to be bent over by your employer who proceeds to have its way with you, a union gives you some control over your professional life. It gives you the power of the group versus the individual against the corporation And it offers job protections so you can’t arbitrarily be fired in a dispute, Union naysayers will counter with “you can always quit! “ which is true, but when you have a job that is valuable, and may include a pension, it is worth fighting for, For most cases a union is the only mechanism that gives workers any power and protection.

    My first significant job was the US Military, no unions there, but this was a situation where pay and many work provisions were determined by Congress, and yes, the needs of the military took precedence over your life. I stayed for 9 years, it involved long periods of family separation, but I was lucky enough to be in during the Cold War, without an active war. After separating from the USN, I was hired as an airline pilot and was introduced to the union, in my case ALPA, Airline Pilots Association.

    Not all unions are good unions, they are only as good as their leadership, which is no different on the employer side of the equation. Some unions have made unrealistic demands and actually harmed their jobs, some walk off professional cliffs when they're all fired. I was lucky enough to be in one of the best unions comprised of highly skilled professional people who were not easy to replace, because too much training involved, and experience is required. That is a huge factor in the equation. But any large group has an advantage. They won’t always prevail, but for them even to exist, the backing of the Federal Government is vital. When considering worker’s rights, the right to unionize is a must

    Take a look at the Writer’s strike, and now rhe looming Screen Actors Guild Strike. One of the items on the agenda is job protection from Artificial Intelligence. The Corporate Capitalists have been destroying domestic jobs for 5 decades as millions of jobs have been shipped out of the Country for shareholder profit at the expense of the former employee,it can be argued at the expense of the Nation. Look at the industrial robots where hundreds of thousands found employment, now lost. Do you think that AI will be any different?? NOPE.

    In the USA, the 20th Century’s New Deal was just a temporary reprieve from life at the hands of the Robber Barrons. And WWII were the US got a huge economic boost by virtue of being the major country left economically intact. This is why I continue to argue that Capitalism will eventually fail, when it no longer servers the majority. In fact it can be argued that it’s not served the majority for decades as our domestic Middle Class evaporates. Under Capitolidm, AI will just be another tool to disenfranchise workers, even as the domestic buying power is canabalized so a smaller and smaller group of people can live comfortabley, and even less become filthy rich.

    This is not an argument against technological advancement which is inevitable. It is an argument against Capitalism, at least not regulated enough Capitalism, and for something that will carry most, if not all of us, forward economically. Highly regulated Capitalism with wealth caps might do it, or possibly socialism. But for Socialism to work requires an attitude adjustment by the majority, And no matter what we choose corruption is unacceptable, it destroys any economic system. Corruption is the reason why Communism has been so bad.


     
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    Yes the situation in the US really astound me repeatedly.

    But I think it is a cultural thing mostly. Your education system is really lagging in many ways... and it is getting worse.
    My outlook and opinions are clearly jaded by the BS in the US.

    Tragically, the education system is working exactly as intended by plutocrats.

    Censoring the information and debate that is "allowed" even in grades 9-12 is destructive. Whitewashing history deny the students the right to learn from previous generations mistakes. And somehow remnants of McCarthyism is still actively fighting against workers rights and making unions a bad word. It really doesn't help a lot that mobsters got involved with unions as well, like asking the fox to mind the hen house.
    Tragically, the education system is also working exactly as intended by bigots.

    Unions is a part of the system here. And on all levels - from the man on the floor to the top executive suite. Unions provide necessary legal aid and help solve disputes assisted by laws and a special court system which serves as an arbitor when disputes arrises. Ad to that laws that secure certain rights to all employees. 6 weeks vacation, sick pay, pensions, child sick days and child care days. Laws governing how employees can be laid off and how long the severance should be.

    And regarding non-competing clauses the law is very specific. If you have a 6 month non-comp clause, then the company will have to give you the usual severance + 6 months (or whatever the non-compete is )
    Fortunately, unions seem to be making a strong comeback here. I'm optimistic on that front. A strong union environment here is the last line of defense against increasing wealth inequality and injustice. If the current labor union movement fails, then we will fall shortly after.

    The other truth is that our problems here in the US mess things up for everyone around the planet. We are the biggest contributor to climate change, even though China and India each have billions more people than us. Climate change is a threat to the security and lives of every single person on the planet. Gaia's got a lot worse in store for us and it's coming a lot sooner than we think and are prepared for.

    The entire geography of my childhood will soon be consumed by the inevitably rising of the Gulf of Mexico. Just 3 years ago my hometown area got devastated by two major hurricanes within a couple months time. That same hometown is home to a major petrochemical industrial hub which is quite karmic. If a hurricane enters the Gulf of Mexico this summer, the record breaking water temperatures will probably fuel a recording breaking hurricane but too many of us here are like, "hey just 'Don't Look Up'."
     
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    No one is "unregulated" here lol - there is regulations for everything :) And if you break the law or a regulation, it doesnt matter if you are rich or poor.
     

    Seth Goldstein, a lawyer who represents unions in the Amazon and Trader Joe’s cases told Reuters that these challenges to the NLRB increase the chances of the issue reaching the Supreme Court. And they might cause employers to stop bargaining with unions in hope that courts will finally strip the federal agency of its powers, Goldstein said. Amazon has a contentious history with the NLRB, which said the company broke federal labor laws last year
     

    Seth Goldstein, a lawyer who represents unions in the Amazon and Trader Joe’s cases told Reuters that these challenges to the NLRB increase the chances of the issue reaching the Supreme Court. And they might cause employers to stop bargaining with unions in hope that courts will finally strip the federal agency of its powers, Goldstein said. Amazon has a contentious history with the NLRB, which said the company broke federal labor laws last year
    I believe this issue is on this SCOTUS’ list. They will get around to it. 😡
     
    Well there are two very easy solution to this kind of actions from a company. Simply boycott them and let them know why. Unfortunately I dont think that it would work in the US since many have bought into the "unions bad" retoric and vote people into congress who will support laws protecting workers rights
     

    Seth Goldstein, a lawyer who represents unions in the Amazon and Trader Joe’s cases told Reuters that these challenges to the NLRB increase the chances of the issue reaching the Supreme Court. And they might cause employers to stop bargaining with unions in hope that courts will finally strip the federal agency of its powers, Goldstein said. Amazon has a contentious history with the NLRB, which said the company broke federal labor laws last year
    My how the tide turns. So much for the idea of Constitutional as federal support of unions has been around for a century or so. But put a bunch of RW Yahoos on SCOTUS and all bets are off? 🤔
     
    from some remarks that was made in that twitter interview


    Driving the news: The UAW said it filed the charges against Trump and Musk "for their illegal attempts to threaten and intimidate workers who stand up for themselves by engaging in protected concerted activity, such as strikes."

    • The union flagged this comment by Trump: "You walk in, you say, You want to quit? They go on strike, I won't mention the name of the company, but they go on strike and you say, That's OK, you're all gone. You're all gone. So, every one of you is gone."
    • It's illegal to threaten to fire workers for going on strike or to actually do so, the union noted.
    • Musk, who has endorsed Trump, laughed at the Republican presidential nominee's comments but didn't directly address his remarks.
     

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