Trump tries to end birthright citizenship with an executive order (1 Viewer)

[superchuck500]

I think this deserves its own thread. Perhaps we can try to migrate discussion from the other thread to this one.

Here is the Executive Order:

Protecting The Meaning And Value Of American Citizenship – The White House

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered: Section 1.

www.whitehouse.gov

The order presents itself on existing good-ground to exclude children of unlawful immigrants, but that's false - the term "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" does not have an ambiguous history.

Twenty-two states and others filed immediate lawsuits to suspend and ultimately rescind the order.

https://www.reuters.com/legal/lawsuits-challenge-trumps-birthright-citizenship-other-orders-2025-01-21/

 

[MT15]

Alito, Thomas and Gorsuch may ignore the constitution, but the other 6 won’t. I think even Alito and Gorsuch will rule lawfully. Thomas is the one most likely to rule illogically.

Barrett , IIRC, has signaled some softness on this issue already. I don’t give Alito nor Gorsuch any credit any longer.

 

[Lapaz]

Barrett , IIRC, has signaled some softness on this issue already. I don’t give Alito nor Gorsuch any credit any longer.

It seems to me that Barrett is very right-wing with respect to abortion, but more reasonable on other matters. She’s still the next most likely, but Kavanaugh is very unlikely to ignore the constitution and no way Roberts will.

 

[SFIDC3]

It’s kind of crazy to me that Judge Coughenour would ask “where were the lawyers?” - when it’s very obvious that Trump has engineered his team to exclude any lawyer that would counsel against any of his instincts.

Has the judge not been paying attention?

I think he has been paying attention. I think he clearly wanted to point this out as not usual process/proceeding.....

 

[Optimus Prime]

 

[Optimus Prime]

 

[superchuck500]

I think he has been paying attention. I think he clearly wanted to point this out as not usual process/proceeding.....

Yeah, that's fair - his incredulity is a way of underscoring just how bad it is.

 

[Eeyore]

It's probably his way of getting, at least, three of his kids out of his way.

Wasn't his Mom and illegal or was it his grandmother?