Trump leadership team accidentally invites Atlantic editor to highly classified Signal war-planning channel (7 Viewers)

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This needs a thread of its own - we can pull the posts out of Misc Trump. This story is (1) absolutely mindblowing and (2) not mindblowing at all because Trump has never really understood the value of high-caliber professionals and has surrounded himself with dramatically unqualified dolts.

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I accepted the connection request, hoping that this was the actual national security adviser, and that he wanted to chat about Ukraine, or Iran, or some other important matter.

Two days later—Thursday—at 4:28 p.m., I received a notice that I was to be included in a Signal chat group. It was called the “Houthi PC small group.”

A message to the group, from “Michael Waltz,” read as follows: “Team – establishing a principles [sic] group for coordination on Houthis, particularly for over the next 72 hours. My deputy Alex Wong is pulling together a tiger team at deputies/agency Chief of Staff level following up from the meeting in the Sit Room this morning for action items and will be sending that out later this evening.”

The message continued, “Pls provide the best staff POC from your team for us to coordinate with over the next couple days and over the weekend. Thx.”

The term principals committee generally refers to a group of the senior-most national-security officials, including the secretaries of defense, state, and the treasury, as well as the director of the CIA. It should go without saying—but I’ll say it anyway—that I have never been invited to a White House principals-committee meeting, and that, in my many years of reporting on national-security matters, I had never heard of one being convened over a commercial messaging app.

One minute later, a person identified only as “MAR”—the secretary of state is Marco Antonio Rubio—wrote, “Mike Needham for State,” apparently designating the current counselor of the State Department as his representative. At that same moment, a Signal user identified as “JD Vance” wrote, “Andy baker for VP.” One minute after that, “TG” (presumably Tulsi Gabbard, the director of national intelligence, or someone masquerading as her) wrote, “Joe Kent for DNI.” Nine minutes later, “Scott B”—apparently Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent, or someone spoofing his identity, wrote, “Dan Katz for Treasury.” At 4:53 p.m., a user called “Pete Hegseth” wrote, “Dan Caldwell for DoD.” And at 6:34 p.m., “Brian” wrote “Brian McCormack for NSC.” One more person responded: “John Ratcliffe” wrote at 5:24 p.m. with the name of a CIA official to be included in the group. I am not publishing that name, because that person is an active intelligence officer.

The principals had apparently assembled. In all, 18 individuals were listed as members of this group, including various National Security Council officials; Steve Witkoff, President Trump’s Middle East and Ukraine negotiator; Susie Wiles, the White House chief of staff; and someone identified only as “S M,” which I took to stand for Stephen Miller. I appeared on my own screen only as “JG.”

That was the end of the Thursday text chain.
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full story: https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...-accidentally-texted-me-its-war-plans/682151/
 
I finally read The Atlantic article and the funniest thing about this is that Goldberg thought the whole thing was a set-up designed to embarrass him and The Atlantic. He couldn't believe that they were that incompetent. Goldberg gave them too much credit, this country is being led by actual morons.
 
bird said:
Hell’s bells and Easter ears, he forgot that he forgot it. His cheese is sliding off his sandwich.
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I think nobody told him about it. Remember all their kvetching about Biden being out of it? Well, every accusation is a confession.

And it is a VERY good point that they weren’t all clear on what Trump had authorized, but they just went ahead with what they thought he maybe wanted done.

Thats unconscionable.
 
I wish we had some smart conseratives on the board.

Vance in these leaks is putting forward the opinion that Europe should be securing it's own trade, etc.

It's very clear the current Republican adminstration thinks Europe should take a more active role, and America a more passive one.

So why are Republicans increasing defense spending? How do you defend the budget?
 
DJ1BigTymer said:
I finally read The Atlantic article and the funniest thing about this is that Goldberg thought the whole thing was a set-up designed to embarrass him and The Atlantic. He couldn't believe that they were that incompetent. Goldberg gave them too much credit, this country is being led by actual morons.
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One of my biggest issues even on this board, people look for some motive that isn't explained by him being a moron. People try to parse his words way to much. The first admin had pro's, and competent people. They all said Trump was a crayon eating idiot.
 
This story still has me reeling. One has to assume regular text messages and regular applications like Signal are not secure enough for these types of communications (leaving out a civilian reporter was added to the chat). I'm stunned at this level of incompetance.....even for a Fox News host turned Defense Secretary.

If the Democrats do not hold them to account for this, their Party might as well fold the tents and all resign.

Am I being dramatic, or is this like a REALLY BIG DEAL?
 
Bayouboy said:
This story still has me reeling. One has to assume regular text messages and regular applications like Signal are not secure enough for these types of communications (leaving out a civilian reporter was added to the chat). I'm stunned at this level of incompetance.....even for a Fox News host turned Defense Secretary.

If the Democrats do not hold them to account for this, their Party might as well fold the tents and all resign.

Am I being dramatic, or is this like a REALLY BIG DEAL?
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You can recycle the same line they used over Hillary's emails just change the names. "Trump may think his cronies are about the law, but when Democrats take back power we will hold lawbreakers accountable." That's almost verbatim what they said about HRC's emails.
 

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