Trump floats claims for Canada, Greenland, and the Panama Canal (3 Viewers)

[superchuck500]

Oh, but he's only joking - well, maybe, so they say. Or sort of joking with Canada, and maybe not joking with Greenland - saying that "ownership and control of Greenland is an absolute necessity" doesn't sound like a joke . . . and um, not sure about what the about Panama Canal thing is?

Trump Jokes Canada Becoming 51st US State 'A Great Idea'

US President-elect Donald Trump said Wednesday it would be "a great idea" for Canada to become the 51st US state, teasing on social media that "many Canadians" welcome the idea, as Ottawa is wracked by a political crisis.

www.barrons.com

Trump threatens to try to take back the Panama Canal. Panama's president balks at the suggestion

Donald Trump is suggesting that his new administration could try to regain control of the Panama Canal.

apnews.com

 

[Texan1211]

It's both sad and frack'n hilarious that you believe you are providing an answer to @SystemShock 's question.

Almost as sad as thinking I care?

 

[SystemShock]

Heard them all over the last 10 years
none of them ever pan out

Are you sure what you heard over the last 10 years are actual conspiracy theories? Saying that someone would or could do something is not describing a conspiracy.

 

[Texan1211]

Are you sure what you heard over the last 10 years are actual conspiracy theories? Saying that someone would or could do something is not describing a conspiracy.

Heard so many like Trump is controlled by this guy or that guy, and all the terrible things Trump is "going to do".

 

[SystemShock]

Heard so many like Trump is controlled by this guy or that guy, and all the terrible things Trump is "going to do".

Ok?
But still, why do you think saying someone would or could do something is a conspiracy theory?

 

[Texan1211]

Ok?
But still, why do you think saying someone would or could do something is a conspiracy theory?

Well, many folks seem to think it makes them look smart to highlight every lie that comes from Trump's lips. I wonder where you all find the time for that nonsense. The whole Russia/Trump collusion thingy that went nowhere, the whole Russian pee tapes the left brayed about for quite a while, Trump not paying taxes (Hat tip to Rachel Maddow for proving that he did pay), calling Trump "Drumpf" like an idiot, etc. The left said we would be in WWIII during Trump's first term and the economy would completely tank, but I now realize that they were just trying to prove Reagan right yet once again:

“It isn't so much that liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so many things that aren't so.”​

― Ronald Reagan

 

[Dragon]

Well, many folks seem to think it makes them look smart to highlight every lie that comes from Trump's lips. I wonder where you all find the time for that nonsense. The whole Russia/Trump collusion thingy that went nowhere, the whole Russian pee tapes the left brayed about for quite a while, Trump not paying taxes (Hat tip to Rachel Maddow for proving that he did pay), calling Trump "Drumpf" like an idiot, etc. The left said we would be in WWIII during Trump's first term and the economy would completely tank, but I now realize that they were just trying to prove Reagan right yet once again:

“It isn't so much that liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so many things that aren't so.”​

― Ronald Reagan

If we were to highlight every lie from Trump’s lips, it would be a full-time, 24/7/365 job. And yes, Trump did tank the economy through his mishandling of the pandemic. He also added more to the national deficit than any president before him. Trump inherited a strong, healthy economy, yet managed to destroy it, leaving the country in chaos and lockdown for Biden to clean up.

As for collusion, it’s quite real. Trump openly asked Russia to find Hillary’s emails (this is on tape, in case anyone claims otherwise). Less than 12 hours later, Russia hacked the email server.

So, what’s your excuse for that undeniable fact?

 

[faceman]

Well, many folks seem to think it makes them look smart to highlight every lie that comes from Trump's lips. I wonder where you all find the time for that nonsense. The whole Russia/Trump collusion thingy that went nowhere, the whole Russian pee tapes the left brayed about for quite a while, Trump not paying taxes (Hat tip to Rachel Maddow for proving that he did pay), calling Trump "Drumpf" like an idiot, etc. The left said we would be in WWIII during Trump's first term and the economy would completely tank, but I now realize that they were just trying to prove Reagan right yet once again:

“It isn't so much that liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so many things that aren't so.”​

― Ronald Reagan

I wouldn't use Reagan as an example of sound economic policies. During his administration the U.S. went from the largest
creditor nation in the world to the largest debtor nation.

During Reagan's presidency, the federal debt held by the public nearly tripled in nominal terms, from $738 billion to $2.1 trillion. This led to the U.S. moving from the world's largest international creditor to the world's largest debtor nation

 

[Texan1211]

As for collusion, it’s quite real.

So you claim, but where the proof?

Trump openly asked Russia to find Hillary’s emails (this is on tape, in case anyone claims otherwise). Less than 12 hours later, Russia hacked the email server.

Yeah, I know what he said, and the context.
I also know that Hillary's team deleted thousands of emails.
If Russia hacked her server, just further proof of how dumb she was to use it.

Tell me everything you know about this alleged collusion, and explain why no one else could actually prove it while you're at it.

 

[Dragon]

So you claim, but where the proof?

Yeah, I know what he said, and the context.
I also know that Hillary's team deleted thousands of emails.
If Russia hacked her server, just further proof of how dumb she was to use it.

Tell me everything you know about this alleged collusion, and explain why no one else could actually prove it while you're at it.

You see no problem in a candidate for president ASK a foreign state to hack the email server of his opponent ? A criminal act ?

And then there is this

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45079377

But I guess you are ok with that as well?

 

[Texan1211]

I wouldn't use Reagan as an example of sound economic policies.

If one actually reads what I wrote, one would find I made no such use of Reagan as an example of anything to do with finances.

During Reagan's presidency, the federal debt held by the public nearly tripled in nominal terms, from $738 billion to $2.1 trillion. This led to the U.S. moving from the world's largest international creditor to the world's largest debtor nation

And true to form for all politicians of all parties, nothing has changed except for our debt growing and interest payments rising rapidly.
There are no fiscal conservatives in DC with any power to accomplish anything.

 

[Texan1211]

You see no problem in a candidate for president ASK a foreign state to hack the email server of his opponent ? A criminal act ?

I see no point in getting all upset today over something long gone. I would have preferred he didn't say it, but I also preferred Hillary not using a private server AND turning over ALL her emails.
Trump specifically said this:
"“Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing, I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press,” Trump said in a July 27, 2016 news conference."

No collusion.
Not illegal.

 

[Dragon]

If one actually reads what I wrote, one would find I made no such use of Reagan as an example of anything to do with finances.

And true to form for all politicians of all parties, nothing has changed except for our debt growing and interest payments rising rapidly.
There are no fiscal conservatives in DC with any power to accomplish anything.

Trump increased the debt more than any other president in history. More than 3 Trillion of it due to his tax cuts for the 1%

The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) of 2017, enacted during President Donald Trump's administration, significantly reduced federal revenues. The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) projected that the TCJA would increase the federal deficit by approximately $1.9 trillion over the 2018-2028 period, even after accounting for any economic growth spurred by the tax cuts.

Tax Policy Center
In the immediate aftermath, federal revenues declined notably. For instance, in fiscal year 2018, revenues were about $270 billion (7.5%) lower than the CBO's pre-TCJA projections, primarily due to the tax cuts.

Wikipedia
Furthermore, analyses indicate that the TCJA's benefits were skewed toward higher-income households, exacerbating income inequality without delivering the substantial economic growth that proponents had promised.

CBPP
In summary, the TCJA resulted in a significant loss of federal revenue, contributing to increased deficits and national debt, with benefits largely favoring the wealthy.

 

[Texan1211]

Trump increased the debt more than any other president in history. More than 3 Trillion of it due to his tax cuts for the 1%

Ok, but who do you find arguing that??????????????????????
BTW, I found this that seems to contradict your claim about Trump:

U.S. debt by president: dollar and percentage 2024

Of all the U.S. presidents, Barack Obama increased the national debt the most. Donald Trump ranks second due in part to coronavirus relief spending.

www.consumeraffairs.com

"During Barack Obama’s presidency, the U.S. total outstanding debt increased by almost $8.34 trillion, the biggest dollar increase of any president. In terms of percentage change, Abraham Lincoln’s term had the highest increase at 2,860%, increasing the U.S. debt from about $90.6 million in 1861 to $2.68 billion in 1865 when he was assassinated.".

 

[Texan1211]

More than 3 Trillion of it due to his tax cuts for the 1%

Seems like we as a country actually increased the government spending and the wealthy pay by far the most in taxes.

Summary of the Latest Federal Income Tax Data, 2024 Update

The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) made many significant, but temporary, changes to the individual income tax code to lower tax rates, widen brackets, increase the standard deduction and child tax credit, and more.

taxfoundation.org

New Internal Revenue Service (IRS) data on individual income taxes for tax year 2021 shows the federal income tax system continues to be progressive as high-income taxpayers pay the highest average income tax rates. Average tax rates for all income groups remained lower in 2021, four years after the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA), than they were in 2017 prior to the reform. The 2021 data also reflects changes in people’s incomes and in government policy during the coronavirus pandemic.

• In 2021, taxpayers filed 153.6 million tax returns, reported earning more than $14.7 trillion in adjusted gross income (AGI), and paid nearly $2.2 trillion in individual income taxes.
• The average income tax rate in 2021 was 14.9 percent. The top 1 percent of taxpayers paid a 25.9 percent average rate, nearly eight times higher than the 3.3 percent average rate paid by the bottom half of taxpayers.
• The top 1 percent’s income share rose from 22.2 percent in 2020 to 26.3 percent in 2021 and its share of federal income taxes paid rose from 42.3 percent to 45.8 percent.
• The top 50 percent of all taxpayers paid 97.7 percent of all federal individual income taxes, while the bottom 50 percent paid the remaining 2.3 percent.
• The 2021 figures include pandemic-related tax items from the American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA), such as the non-refundable part of the third round of Recovery Rebates and the expanded child tax credit (CTC) and earned income tax credit (EITC).
• Capital gains realizations exceeded $2 trillion to reach a 40-year high, driving income growth and taxes paid for high-income groups.

 

[fooferdoggie]

So you claim, but where the proof?

Yeah, I know what he said, and the context.
I also know that Hillary's team deleted thousands of emails.
If Russia hacked her server, just further proof of how dumb she was to use it.

Tell me everything you know about this alleged collusion, and explain why no one else could actually prove it while you're at it.

and yet Trump and his ilk use their own servers and not government email servers so they can hide their stuff and get hacked. so, How do you know Russia is not reading their emails? I guess you forgot Trump called Putin several times after he was out of office.

 

[Texan1211]

and yet Trump and his ilk use their own servers and not government email servers so they can hide their stuff and get hacked. so, How do you know Russia is not reading their emails?

I would like ALL government employees to use government email accounts on government servers, and all such emails preserved forever.
I don't know if Russia is reading their emails any more than you do.

I guess you forgot Trump called Putin several times after he was out of office.

Oh, My Gosh, call the authorities--STAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But it is strange that the very same folks who think Trump colluded with Russia are the very same geniuses who seem to think Russia would have to hack Trump. That makes real sense---/s.

 

[J-DONK]

I would like ALL government employees to use government email accounts on government servers, and all such emails preserved forever.
I don't know if Russia is reading their emails any more than you do.

Oh, My Gosh, call the authorities--STAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But it is strange that the very same folks who think Trump colluded with Russia are the very same geniuses who seem to think Russia would have to hack Trump. That makes real sense---/s.

Dude how much of your day do you spend defending a guy you totally didn't vote for?

 

[MT15]

Yeah, that is pretty amazing right there, lol.