The Voting Thread (Procedures, Turnout, Legal Challenges)(Update: Trump to file suit in PA, MI, WI, AZ, NV, GA) (15 Viewers)

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    Lapaz

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    There is a lot of push-back from Trump on voting by mail, but most states allow it, and 1/3 allow it without any excuse. His rationale is that it will lead to vast fraud, but of course that isn't his real reason. His real reason is that he thinks it will be worse for conservatives, but studies have shown that states that have instituted much broader voting by mail haven't had any statistical changes in party voting.



    Although, normally voting by mail doesn't affect party votes, I bet it might this year if we have another resurgence of Covid, because I think the right is much more apt to discount the virus than the left. I know that is why Trump is against it.

    Whether you're left or right wing, expanding mail in votes is the right thing to do to reduce the likelihood of spreading the virus, to expand voter participation, and to make it easier for those that do show up to stay distant. It will also allow any people with susceptibilities to remain safer. I think voting by mail could be made extremely secure by having people vote using traditional postal mail, coupled with requiring a confirmation either by phone, email or text. If done by phone, then voters can provide confirmation that can include confirming their form number. If done by email or text, it can include a picture of their form, and then confirmation that that was their form. Rather than staffers individually calling people, this can be automated by having voters call the number, text the number, or email the address provided to them on their form. A website can even be created with a database of those that have voted, and perhaps a link to allow people to confirm their vote was correctly registered. For people without computers, a site can include a means to access the database over the phone with some confirmation information. These types of systems are used extensively by banks and other sites that need security, so I think they are mature enough to use. We could even use such a site for people to confirm their vote on the day of the election.
     
    Ok. With Arizona in the books and no lawsuit it gives Biden 270 without PA. 286 with Georgia which Biden is going to win.

    What in the fork are they going to now? Prove that MI and GA and NV and PA all cheated? What in the actual fork? With not a single shred of actual evidence?

    If you are still out there believing these con artists, by all means, give them your money. But make sure you give over 8k so you go to the defense fund otherwise you are just paying Trump’s debt. Holy shirt you have to be dug in not to see through this by now.
     
    Ok. With Arizona in the books and no lawsuit it gives Biden 270 without PA. 286 with Georgia which Biden is going to win.

    What in the fork are they going to now? Prove that MI and GA and NV and PA all cheated? What in the actual fork? With not a single shred of actual evidence?

    If you are still out there believing these con artists, by all means, give them your money. But make sure you give over 8k so you go to the defense fund otherwise you are just paying Trump’s debt. Holy shirt you have to be dug in not to see through this by now.

    Yet Trump Administration officials are still on TV TODAY saying he won the election and will be President the next 4 years.

    We have driven right through Crazytown into Absurdville.
     
    Ok. With Arizona in the books and no lawsuit it gives Biden 270 without PA. 286 with Georgia which Biden is going to win.

    What in the fork are they going to now? Prove that MI and GA and NV and PA all cheated? What in the actual fork? With not a single shred of actual evidence?

    If you are still out there believing these con artists, by all means, give them your money. But make sure you give over 8k so you go to the defense fund otherwise you are just paying Trump’s debt. Holy shirt you have to be dug in not to see through this by now.
    It won’t matter unless they get PA, MI and WI overturned which isn’t likely. Without AZ, Trump had to take the blue wall to win.
     
    It's "moo." You know, like a cow's opinion. It doesn't matter.

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    He still has PA without those votes, doesn't he?

    The 3d Circuit rejected the challenge to counting those ballots - in other words, they will be counted (absent SCOTUS reversal).

    It is also noteworthy that apparently the 3d Circuit panel are considered conservative judges.
     

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