The Impeachment Process Has Officially Begun (24 Viewers)

[Andrus]

By Laura Bassett

After months of internal arguing among Democrats over whether to impeach President Donald Trump, the dam is finally breaking in favor of trying to remove him from office. The Washington Post reported that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi would announce a formal impeachment inquiry on Tuesday, following a bombshell report that Trump illegally asked Ukraine’s government to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden, one of his political opponents. (He essentially admitted to having done so over the weekend.)

“Now that we have the facts, we’re ready,” Pelosi said Tuesday morning at a forum hosted by The Atlantic. At 5 p.m. the same day, she was back with more. "The actions taken to date by the president have seriously violated the constitution, especially when the president says Article Two says I can do whatever I want," referring to the segment of the Constitution that defines the power of the executive branch of the government. Pelosi's message was that checks and balances of those branches are just as central to the Constitution. And one more thing: "Today, I am announcing the House of Representatives is moving forward with an official impeachment inquiry," she said at a conference broadcast on Twitter by the Huffington Post. ...

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[Lapaz]

This is good information to take into consideration, and needs to be weighed with everything else.

Mafiosos are careful not to be too explicit about their crimes. Prystaiko may not have been told explicitly that the aid was tied to investigating Biden, but all the evidence points to that being the case, and the implication was very clear in the transcript that Trump linked Biden and the aid.

 

[UncleTrvlingJim]

Mafiosos are careful not to be too explicit about their crimes. Prystaiko may not have been told explicitly that the aid was tied to investigating Biden, but all the evidence points to that being the case, and the implication was very clear in the transcript that Trump linked Biden and the aid.

Sure, but you have to include all the information available before forming a conclusion. One bit of information is that at least one Ukrainian official did stated that he did not feel that an announcement on a Biden investigation was tied to US aid.

 

[Lazybones]

It's silly to argue that Trump cared about corruption in the Ukraine. There is nothing that supports that opinion.

Ukraine was involved in the 2016 election fiasco, no?

 

[LA - L.A.]

Ukraine was involved in the 2016 election fiasco, no?

How do you think they were involved?

 

[superchuck500]

Can this guy just be disbarred already?

 

[Beach Friends]

Can this guy just be disbarred already?

Why would they craft that headline like that? It's almost as though they don't care that they are misleading their followers.

 

[superchuck500]

Why would they craft that headline like that? It's almost as though they don't care that they are misleading their followers.

It is terribly misleading - unless you try to extrapolate that has ‘insurance’ was actually dirt on Trump. But It’s obvious that he was just making joke response to the “thrown under the bus” question. I agree it’s a bunk story.

 

[The moose]

Ukraine was involved in the 2016 election fiasco, no?

Ok so you really think everyone in the us government that told us it was Russian interference is wrong?

All of them cia FBI all of them?

So that [Mod Edit The rules here are strict, we don't allow the use of any terms that are meant to set off the opposition like "Orange Asshat". This board is not a continuation of the PDB, and is heavily moderated, so choose your words wisely] now wants to come up with some sort of scheme to make his election results not look tainted and you buy it hook line and sinker? Oh and while he is doing that he is trying to get a fake investigation on his political rival.

Have you not noticed he has serious problems with the truth?

Home on guys read news from everyone please not just Fox news.

 

[UncleTrvlingJim]

Ok so you really think everyone in the us government that told us it was Russian interference is wrong?

All of them cia FBI all of them?

So that [Mod Edit ] now wants to come up with some sort of scheme to make his election results not look tainted and you buy it hook line and sinker? Oh and while he is doing that he is trying to get a fake investigation on his political rival.

Have you not noticed he has serious problems with the truth?

Home on guys read news from everyone please not just Fox news.

He's talking about the instance where some Ukrainian officials told a consultant for the DNC about Manafort's dealings with the previous pro-Russian regime.

 

[BobE]

 

[Lazybones]

Ok so you really think everyone in the us government that told us it was Russian interference is wrong?

All of them cia FBI all of them?

So that [Mod Edit ] now wants to come up with some sort of scheme to make his election results not look tainted and you buy it hook line and sinker? Oh and while he is doing that he is trying to get a fake investigation on his political rival.

Have you not noticed he has serious problems with the truth?

Home on guys read news from everyone please not just Fox news.

Did Ukraine try to interfere in the 2016 election on Clinton's behalf?

A breakdown of claims that Russia's neighbor to the west tried to assist Hillary Clinton against Donald Trump

www.cbsnews.com

 

[superchuck500]

Some good old Trump school yard ad hominem

 

[BobE]

let the fun begin

 

[BobE]

 

[The moose]

He's talking about the instance where some Ukrainian officials told a consultant for the DNC about Manafort's dealings with the previous pro-Russian regime.

Oh I get it now.

That is the old look over here what about what they do rather than look at what is right in your face now trick!

I was a bit confused thought it was something more than lookie over here trick.

 

[The moose]

Did Ukraine try to interfere in the 2016 election on Clinton's behalf?

A breakdown of claims that Russia's neighbor to the west tried to assist Hillary Clinton against Donald Trump

www.cbsnews.com

I read that stuff years ago when it was a story. If anything really wrong happened the attorney general that is [MOD EDIT: avoid inflammatory descriptions of people please] would have brought charges.

Unlike jail bird Paul they could not stop him from time even with an attorney general that was Trump's boy.

So what about what is going on now?

 

[BobE]

 

[superchuck500]

The reported story has been that to take actual control over the Ukraine funds, the White House (probably by Mulvaney) pulled the funds in from State to OMB, which is a White House agency with budgetary and policy functions. Mulvaney was OMB Director before he was made WH Chief if Staff, so it’s an agency that he’s very familiar with.

I suspect that Sandy’s testimony will conform those facts and the timeline. Not sure what else he might offer. Perhaps he had some knowledge of Trump’s Ukraine play or perhaps he didn’t at all - which wouldn’t be surprising because OMB’s only ostensible role was handling the funds and awaiting instructions from Mulvaney. OMB wouldn’t typically be involved on Ukraine policy discussions.

They might also ask him about whether OMB had a position about holding the funds beyond September 30 - as a matter of federal appropriations law, a topic OMB is competent to evaluate.