The Impeachment Process Has Officially Begun (9 Viewers)

[Andrus]

By Laura Bassett

After months of internal arguing among Democrats over whether to impeach President Donald Trump, the dam is finally breaking in favor of trying to remove him from office. The Washington Post reported that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi would announce a formal impeachment inquiry on Tuesday, following a bombshell report that Trump illegally asked Ukraine’s government to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden, one of his political opponents. (He essentially admitted to having done so over the weekend.)

“Now that we have the facts, we’re ready,” Pelosi said Tuesday morning at a forum hosted by The Atlantic. At 5 p.m. the same day, she was back with more. "The actions taken to date by the president have seriously violated the constitution, especially when the president says Article Two says I can do whatever I want," referring to the segment of the Constitution that defines the power of the executive branch of the government. Pelosi's message was that checks and balances of those branches are just as central to the Constitution. And one more thing: "Today, I am announcing the House of Representatives is moving forward with an official impeachment inquiry," she said at a conference broadcast on Twitter by the Huffington Post. ...

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[coldseat]

Do any of the lawyers on here know if these legal challenges to the subpoenas issued by the House for the impeachment hearing are being expiated to the SC?

If not, why? Does the House have that kind of pull (or more technically, legal ability/option) to request to expedite the cases with the SC the same way the Executive has through the Justice Department?

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

Exactly.

The past three years have exceeded the wildest imaginings of Putin.

This will be recorded as the most successful disinformation and destabilization campaign in history all because the Democrats cannot accept the results of an election.

That's funny because this impeachment inquiry is happening because trump could not accept the findings of the Intelligence Community and the Muller Report regarding the Russian interference on his behalf. He was so consumed with it that he enlisted Giuliani to discredit the IC's assessment by any means necessary.

Giuliani chased conspiracy theory after conspiracy theory in an effort to poison our electorate by giving the theories credence. He even solicited affidavits full of false information from Ukraine's former Prosecutor General Lutsenko, a man that was convicted for corruption, claiming that Biden was under investigations in Ukraine.

 

[EmBeeFiveOhFour]

Trump is very aggressive in opposing Russia...by trying to prove that they didn't interfere in his 2016 election because Ukraine has the "DNC Server" and colluded with Crooked Hillary to make his historic landslide election look less bigly.

 

[st dude]

Do any of the lawyers on here know if these legal challenges to the subpoenas issued by the House for the impeachment hearing are being expiated to the SC?

If not, why? Does the House have that kind of pull (or more technically, legal ability/option) to request to expedite the cases with the SC the same way the Executive has through the Justice Department?

My understanding is that the democrats decided that even with expedited motions, the legal fight over the subpoenas would last too long and potentially drag the hearings into next year. They decided they have enough to impeach in the House and move forward.

I do not know where they are on a legal fight, but I would still be in Court fighting it. There is always the trial in the Senate, of course the problem there being the Republicans will control those proceedings and you can bet they will restrict the democrats and argue they were restricted in House proceedings.

Maybe they will even try to force the whistleblower to testify in the Senate. That would fall in the "be careful what you ask for" category for me.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

My understanding is that the democrats decided that even with expedited motions, the legal fight over the subpoenas would last too long and potentially drag the hearings into next year. They decided they have enough to impeach in the House and move forward.

I do not know where they are on a legal fight, but I would still be in Court fighting it. There is always the trial in the Senate, of course the problem there being the Republicans will control those proceedings and you can bet they will restrict the democrats and argue they were restricted in House proceedings.

Maybe they will even try to force the whistleblower to testify in the Senate. That would fall in the "be careful what you ask for" category for me.

Couldn't agree more! I think it's a mistake not to compel Bolton's and Pompeo's testimony. It would make it very difficult to delegitimize the Senate trial if they were both made available.

 

[FullMonte]

Yes. When I call my mom on her land line, I need to turn my phone volume a lot. It is always super loud, that, of i had it turned up due to a quiet call, i could hear her almost like a speaker phone setting.

Depends on the volume setting, the connection, and the phone ear speaker strength.

It might also depend on whether or not you wanted to show off because you were talking to your mom, and she's very famous and powerful....

 

[coldseat]

My understanding is that the democrats decided that even with expedited motions, the legal fight over the subpoenas would last too long and potentially drag the hearings into next year. They decided they have enough to impeach in the House and move forward.

I do not know where they are on a legal fight, but I would still be in Court fighting it. There is always the trial in the Senate, of course the problem there being the Republicans will control those proceedings and you can bet they will restrict the democrats and argue they were restricted in House proceedings.

Maybe they will even try to force the whistleblower to testify in the Senate. That would fall in the "be careful what you ask for" category for me.

I agree. I didn't realize they had given up completely on the subpoenas. That's a huge mistake to me. They should definitely fight that out in court, if for no other reason that the precedence. But I think that would be huge for the Senate trial.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

Well, that escalated quickly!!! I think they may want to stop asking Dr. Hill questions.

 

[insidejob]

It's nice to hear Hill clearing Vindman's name.

 

[Nebaghead]

Well, that escalated quickly!!! I think they may want to stop asking Dr. Hill questions.

What happened? In meetings all day and can't listen.

 

[superchuck500]

 

[superchuck500]

I mean seriously.

 

[GrandAdmiral]

Jordan is such an a-hole.

 

[BobE]

does Schiff object this much when the D's interrupt the witness? I mean I get it was Jordan but still.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

does Schiff object this much when the D's interrupt the witness? I mean I get it was Jordan but still.

To be fair, Jordan’s time was up and Schiff was trying to allow the witness time to answer.

It’s not Holmes’ fault that Jordan is a grandstanding dbag.

 

[BobE]

I like this guy he ask's if he can interrupt. Nice to see some manners.

 

[crosswatt]

Jordan is such a belligerent equivocator. He is so undeserving of respect that it embarrasses me we were once a part of the same political party.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

Well, that escalated quickly!!! I think they may want to stop asking Dr. Hill questions.

Holmes as well. Jordan looked a little foolish there as the witness took his hands and gently explained how time still flows when people go on vacation.