Special counsel charges FBI informant with lying to the bureau about Hunter and Joe Biden (1 Viewer)

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WASHINGTON — An FBI informant has been indicted on two counts of allegedly feeding the bureau false information about President Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden during the 2020 presidential campaign.

Alexander Smirnov, 43, disliked Joe Biden and was arrested in Las Vegas after returning from a trip overseas, according to the Justice Department. The case grew out of the special counsel investigation being led by David Weiss, who is also leading the case against Hunter Biden. Weiss had been appointed by then-President Donald Trump as the top federal prosecutor in Delaware.
The 37-page indictment alleges that Smirnov had been a confidential human source for the FBI since 2010 and "provided false derogatory information to the FBI" about both Bidens after Joe Biden became a candidate for president in 2020.

Smirnov allegedly told the FBI — falsely — that officials with Burisma, the Ukrainian energy company that Hunter Biden worked for, had told him they hired Hunter Biden because he would "protect us, through his dad, from all kinds of problems." Smirnov allegedly told the FBI — again, falsely — that Burisma officials had told him they paid Hunter Biden and Joe Biden $5 million and that it would take investigators 10 years to find the illicit payments to Joe Biden. A source familiar with the matter told NBC News that Hunter Biden does not know the individual who was charged and does not believe he ever met him.

According to the indictment, Smirnov's claims to the FBI, which he first made in June 2020, "were fabrications," and, in truth, he only "had contact with executives from Burisma in 2017," when Joe Biden had left office as vice president and "had no ability" to influence U.S. policy.

"In short, the Defendant transformed his routine and unextraordinary business contacts with Burisma in 2017 and later into bribery allegations against [Joe Biden], the presumptive nominee of one of the two major political parties for President, after expressing bias against [Joe Biden] and his candidacy," the indictment alleges.

Special counsel charges FBI informant with lying to the bureau about Hunter and Joe Biden

Alexander Smirnov, an FBI confidential human source, was charged with lying about President Joe Biden, his son Hunter Biden and Burisma.

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I'm so not surprised that the claims this person made were nothing but lies. There's no evidence to back it up.

Could this person be where all the lies about collusion and bribery originally come from?

 

[efil4]

I'll admit I'm just speculating

thats all you had to say.

Now everyone who attempts to engage you in honest discourse, can know your information is speculation and NOT based on fact or reality.

 

[MT15]

You act as is if people on a message board or partisan hacks like Goldman knew for certain that he wasn't credible.

We all knew it wasn’t credible, which is more than you can say.

 

[SaintForLife]

We all knew it wasn’t credible, which is more than you can say.

Yeah right. I'll ask again, but I'm guessing you will continue to ignore it.

Why was Smirnov previously described by the FBI as highly credible and a useful source for several prosecutions over the past decade?

Once again, why weren't the FBI confidential sources Christopher Steele and Stefan Halper prosecuted for lying to the FBI? The same FBI that forged documents to get FISA warrants to spy on the Trump campaign.

 

[MT15]

Why was Smirnov previously described by the FBI as highly credible and a useful source for several prosecutions over the past decade?

When I was on before I didn’t have enough time to respond, but we are home now.

Do you suppose it’s possible that it’s a well known tactic for a double agent to provide credible information for a period of time to, you know, build credibility? So that when he drops the disinformation it’s more likely to be believed? Would that be one possibility?

Here’s several more: maybe he was offered something of value to make up this story? Maybe he decided to make it up as a favor to Putin, since he has been described as a close associate? Maybe he was threatened by Putin, and felt he had to make up this story?

Anyway, he made it up, it was all a lie, and in fact was easily disproved by the FBI. There was a logistical error that was a huge red flag, from what I have read. What he said couldn’t have happened, it was physically impossible.

 

[MT15]

Once again, why weren't the FBI confidential sources Christopher Steele and Stefan Halper prosecuted for lying to the FBI?

I already answered this once, but Smirnov is not only charged with lying to the FBI. He was also charged with obstruction of justice. One theory is that they didn’t intend to charge him until they determined that Hunter was going to get discovery in this matter and find out that they knew he lied and that the GOP idiots were claiming the FBI said it was credible.

Can you provide proof (actual proof from a reputable source) that both Steele and Halper lied to the FBI?

 

[SaintForLife]

When I was on before I didn’t have enough time to respond, but we are home now.

Do you suppose it’s possible that it’s a well known tactic for a double agent to provide credible information for a period of time to, you know, build credibility? So that when he drops the disinformation it’s more likely to be believed? Would that be one possibility?

It's possible, but considering how the Biden DOJ and Weiss have done everything they can to cover for Hunter and Joe and the timing I'm very skeptical.

Why was Smirnov rearrested in his lawyer's office for the exact same charges which he was already bailed on? It seems like Weiss didnt want him talking to anyone. Add in the fact that the usual partisan Democrats and the media jumped on it as if it was another Russiagate makes it smell even more fishy.

Here’s several more: maybe he was offered something of value to make up this story? Maybe he decided to make it up as a favor to Putin, since he has been described as a close associate? Maybe he was threatened by Putin, and felt he had to make up this story?

Same reply as above

Anyway, he made it up, it was all a lie, and in fact was easily disproved by the FBI. There was a logistical error that was a huge red flag, from what I have read. What he said couldn’t have happened, it was physically impossible.

The FBI didn't disprove anything lol. That's what the trial is for.

Once again, why didn't the FBI prosecute confidential informants in Steele and Harper for lying to the FBI?

 

[MT15]

Why was Smirnov rearrested in his lawyer's office for the exact same charges which he was already bailed on?

He was a flight risk, and should never have been let go in the first place. And there were additional charges brought. They uncovered evidence he lied, or his lawyer lied, about the amount of money he had ready access to, and it was plenty to flee the country, while he said he didn’t have enough cash to flee in the original bond hearing.

There are usually good reasons for things, if you actually look for them.

 

[MT15]

The FBI didn't disprove anything lol. That's what the trial is for.

What trial?

Once again, why didn't the FBI prosecute confidential informants in Steele and Harper for lying to the FBI?

This has been answered twice now. You can quit asking it.

 

[FullMonte]

The FBI didn't disprove anything lol. That's what the trial is for.

Weird...I would have thought that the FBI knowing that Hunter Biden had never been to Ukraine disproved Smirnov's claim that he had seen video footage of Hunter Biden entering a hotel in Ukraine....for example.

 

[FullMonte]

Once again, why weren't the FBI confidential sources Christopher Steele

I'd suspect that Steele was not charged because he didn't approach the FBI, he was not an FBI informant (in the way that he had a handler in the FBI who he worked for), and he did not (as I understand it) describe meetings and such that did not happen.

When his report became known, the FBI approached him and asked for his information. As I understand it, he told them that what he had was an uncompleted report containing conversations and information that had not yet been confirmed.

 

[MT15]

Weird...I would have thought that the FBI knowing that Hunter Biden had never been to Ukraine disproved Smirnov's claim that he had seen video footage of Hunter Biden entering a hotel in Ukraine....for example.

That was the easily disproved logistical thing I was talking about. Plus Smirnov’s lawyer has admitted his statements on the 1023 were lies.

 

[MT15]

I'd suspect that Steele was not charged because he didn't approach the FBI, he was not an FBI informant (in the way that he had a handler in the FBI who he worked for), and he did not (as I understand it) describe meetings and such that did not happen.

When his report became known, the FBI approached him and asked for his information. As I understand it, he told them that what he had was an uncompleted report containing conversations and information that had not yet been confirmed.

I have requested from SFL that he show a credible source that Steele lied to the FBI, and crickets.