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Buried in the back pages of threads in the Saints EE forum I found a thread which ought to be discussed in the Politic main forum here. It ought to be discussed here because it clearly is recent Russian interference in our government. and our current administration.
The question is why did a Russian state media organ dust off what had been a symbolic mutiny against the Soviets and the communist party dating back to 1991, pay to have English subtitles written for it, and have inserted into a repackaged video product to be released into our media market for free two months after Biden became President?
I'll explain the mutinies of the late 80's and early 90's before the Soviets Communists fell. I was accidentally involved in an earlier act of one of those mutinies.
It was an accident that I walked into a bar in Dutch Harbor Alaska along with the entire crew of a Soviet ship during the spring of 1989. We all got to the door to the bar at the same moment, and so we all walked in there together.
I had just gotten off my US flagged ship and was to fly out of Dutch the following morning to Seattle Washington for several months of compiled vacation time. I spent that evening partying with the Russian sailors from a Soviet seafood processor that also happened to be making a port call to Dutch harbor. There was nothing unusual about seeing a Soviet seafood ship there, what was unusual was that they would release their crew to go ashore to have an evening of drunken liberty in the bar there.
I hung out with the engineers because that was what I had been on my US flagged vessel. I was rich compared to them. Once they ran out of money to spend on drinks I bought two more round for them, and at that time the Captain and the deck officers joined the engineers by pulling our two tables together. That's when the Skipper and their chief engineer cooked up a mutiny as it were, a plot for me to participate in.
The only person from that ship who was not in that bar was their Soviet checker, their political officer who rode heard on them to insure that they were loyal communists. Those folks had been dominate over the citizens in Russia since the Soviet Union had been formed, those checkers were thugs, terrorists, evil.
They were going to feed me supper on their ship to pay back for me buying them drinks, and I was going to help them pull a real nasty on their thug. So we wove our way loudly back to their ship and stomped aboard making our way down to their galley to chow.
Along the way the Skipper shouted down a passageway, hollering for their Soviet thug to come out of his cabin. He eventually arrived in the galley where we were. The Shipper put his arm around me and the Chief Engineer extended an arm from the other side and we staggered to the Soviet thug to talk with him.
The Skipped informed the thug that he'd just hired me to join the Engineering department and sail with them, and then the Chief Engineer informed the thug that we would be sharing a cabin together, and at that moment she kissed me full on the lips, which I most certainly did enjoy.
The color drained from the thugs face and he fled from the galley to the laughter of the entire crew back to his cabin where he locked the door. That was a mutiny. Those sailors, at sea and ashore, had been living under the thumbs of those thugs for their entire lifetimes. But them the Soviet Union crumbled, and it was pay back time. I sure enjoyed that night.
What this has to do with that so called "soviet movie" is that, that movie isn't a soviet movie, its was in a similar way a mutiny on the Soviet system from Thespians who make movies moments before the union totally collapsed. All over the Soviet Union folks were mutinying against the Communists.
There's rich subtext in the movie, it's a Tolkien story and a rejection of the Soviet Communists at the same time. Tolkien was no friends of Communists, nor did he like Democracies. The Soviets would not have approved of that movie at all. There was also rich political subtext hidden below the surface story in Tolkien's books too, he was a very commented conservative royalist. Tolkien would have preferred and have supported the Tzar. He did support the nationalists during the Spanish revolution.
So for the OP: Why all of a sudden does a Russian state controlled TV Network package a mutiny which helped to overthrow the Soviets and ushered in their current system 30 years ago, with new English subtitles and dump it into our media circus now?
Second question to extend that and fill out the tread: What other mischief are they up to along those lines?
Here are the applicable links:
Part one:
Part two:
Be aware of what they are. But they are a good interesting movie, as movies go. I've enjoyed watching them, and recommend them to you.
Additional links:
I disagree with the narrative of this article but here is it:
The question is why did a Russian state media organ dust off what had been a symbolic mutiny against the Soviets and the communist party dating back to 1991, pay to have English subtitles written for it, and have inserted into a repackaged video product to be released into our media market for free two months after Biden became President?
I'll explain the mutinies of the late 80's and early 90's before the Soviets Communists fell. I was accidentally involved in an earlier act of one of those mutinies.
It was an accident that I walked into a bar in Dutch Harbor Alaska along with the entire crew of a Soviet ship during the spring of 1989. We all got to the door to the bar at the same moment, and so we all walked in there together.
I had just gotten off my US flagged ship and was to fly out of Dutch the following morning to Seattle Washington for several months of compiled vacation time. I spent that evening partying with the Russian sailors from a Soviet seafood processor that also happened to be making a port call to Dutch harbor. There was nothing unusual about seeing a Soviet seafood ship there, what was unusual was that they would release their crew to go ashore to have an evening of drunken liberty in the bar there.
I hung out with the engineers because that was what I had been on my US flagged vessel. I was rich compared to them. Once they ran out of money to spend on drinks I bought two more round for them, and at that time the Captain and the deck officers joined the engineers by pulling our two tables together. That's when the Skipper and their chief engineer cooked up a mutiny as it were, a plot for me to participate in.
The only person from that ship who was not in that bar was their Soviet checker, their political officer who rode heard on them to insure that they were loyal communists. Those folks had been dominate over the citizens in Russia since the Soviet Union had been formed, those checkers were thugs, terrorists, evil.
They were going to feed me supper on their ship to pay back for me buying them drinks, and I was going to help them pull a real nasty on their thug. So we wove our way loudly back to their ship and stomped aboard making our way down to their galley to chow.
Along the way the Skipper shouted down a passageway, hollering for their Soviet thug to come out of his cabin. He eventually arrived in the galley where we were. The Shipper put his arm around me and the Chief Engineer extended an arm from the other side and we staggered to the Soviet thug to talk with him.
The Skipped informed the thug that he'd just hired me to join the Engineering department and sail with them, and then the Chief Engineer informed the thug that we would be sharing a cabin together, and at that moment she kissed me full on the lips, which I most certainly did enjoy.
The color drained from the thugs face and he fled from the galley to the laughter of the entire crew back to his cabin where he locked the door. That was a mutiny. Those sailors, at sea and ashore, had been living under the thumbs of those thugs for their entire lifetimes. But them the Soviet Union crumbled, and it was pay back time. I sure enjoyed that night.
What this has to do with that so called "soviet movie" is that, that movie isn't a soviet movie, its was in a similar way a mutiny on the Soviet system from Thespians who make movies moments before the union totally collapsed. All over the Soviet Union folks were mutinying against the Communists.
There's rich subtext in the movie, it's a Tolkien story and a rejection of the Soviet Communists at the same time. Tolkien was no friends of Communists, nor did he like Democracies. The Soviets would not have approved of that movie at all. There was also rich political subtext hidden below the surface story in Tolkien's books too, he was a very commented conservative royalist. Tolkien would have preferred and have supported the Tzar. He did support the nationalists during the Spanish revolution.
So for the OP: Why all of a sudden does a Russian state controlled TV Network package a mutiny which helped to overthrow the Soviets and ushered in their current system 30 years ago, with new English subtitles and dump it into our media circus now?
Second question to extend that and fill out the tread: What other mischief are they up to along those lines?
Here are the applicable links:
Surreal, Psychedellic, Soviet version of Lord of the Rings
I can't describe this with human words, so I'll just leave this here...
saintsreport.com
Part one:
Part two:
Be aware of what they are. But they are a good interesting movie, as movies go. I've enjoyed watching them, and recommend them to you.
Additional links:
5TV (Russian TV channel) - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
I disagree with the narrative of this article but here is it:
Soviet TV version of Lord of the Rings rediscovered after 30 years
Russian-language film posted on YouTube delights fans with its rudimentary sets and ludicrous special effects
www.theguardian.com
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