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    Washington (CNN)It's happening again.
    America is blundering into a new Russia election-meddling hall of mirrors that's already doing Moscow's work: tearing fresh political divides and threatening to again tarnish democracy's most sacred moment, a national election.

    Revelations Thursday about intelligence assessments that Russia has launched a new interference effort to help reelect Donald Trump -- and the President's furious reaction -- mark the return of a recurring nightmare for the country just nine months before the presidential election.


    As was expected and predicted, Russian Interference to re-elect Trump is back. I figured it would be good to have a thread to post suspected Russian Interference campaigns and social media accounts/post. Also to discuss what they might be targeting and their strategies.

    I would expect that right now they're currently targeting divisions within the democratic party and amplifying those fault lines. So I suspect a lot of amplifying racial and minority fault lines within the party. Also, Bernie was probably right during the debate that they're likely contributing to and amplifying the Bernie Bro's aggression in order to further divide the party. This would make perfect sense as their MO isn't usually to create new controversies and division but to exaggerate and exploit the ones that are already there. Their goal being to push those divisions and suppress voter enthusiasm and turn out.
     
    That doesn't make sense, as Sanders likely has the best chance of beating Trump.
    I don't think the powers that be believe that to be true. I don't really think I do either honestly, even though I currently plan to vote for him in our primary.

    But Bernie '20 is a wildcard like Trump '16, and it's difficult to say what that'll look like on election day.
     
    Russian fake posts on Fakebook can pursuade a small percentage of people, and that alone might’ve swung the 2016 election to Trump, but the far more effective Russian action was the hacking of the DNC followed by the slow drip of embarrassing information that put Hillary on the defensive. The fake ads can cause some dissension, but I expect whoever wins the Democratic nomination to be attacked by Russia, no matter what it takes to get the embarrassing information. Almost everybody has something embarrassing in their past, and Russia has no fear about hacking to get that information.
     
    To expand on my last post, if Bloomberg gets the nomination, I think all of the NDAs will be hacked and made public. Others may get attacked simply by made up stuff.
     
    I think i will wait and see if this is a real thing or blown up and out of proportion. Either way, color me skeptical.
    So basically if it's a real thing, you don't believe it. If it's blown up and out of proportion, you don't believe it either. (You clearly stated either way) Why not just say you don't believe it now rather than parsing words to make it seem like you are going to even consider something that looks bad for trump?
     
    Exactly.

    I don't like it, and I think we should direct a few resources to combat it, but a few millions spent on Facebook and Twitter posts doesn't strike me as a huge threat to our country. And those that do feel it is a huge threat - I honestly wonder about their sanity, or at least their ability to detect when they are being manipulated by the media they consume.
    Right because these would be your words verbatim if the Russians had helped Clinton get elected and then she, with the help of democrats, proceeded to kill any bill that republicans proposed to help stop the Russians from helping Clinton in a reelection bid.
     
    Why even ask if you are just going to turn around and change my answer to fit what you want to believe?
    I'm going to break this down for you so you can understand what you wrote.
    "Sure" => indicates that you are answering the question in the affirmative to signify that you indeed care if Russia is interfering in our elections
    but I don't lose any sleep about it
    "but I don't lose any sleep about it" => indicates that you don't really have any feelings one way or the other about the topic for which you responded.

    No one had to change your answer to fit anything. Your answer was exactly how it was described. With one word, you indicate that you care if Russia interferes in our elections and then use the next 8 words of your response to indicate that you DON'T care one way or the other. Geez you people lack even basic reading fundamentals for the shirt you write.
     
    I'm going to break this down for you so you can understand what you wrote.

    "Sure" => indicates that you are answering the question in the affirmative to signify that you indeed care if Russia is interfering in our elections

    "but I don't lose any sleep about it" => indicates that you don't really have any feelings one way or the other about the topic for which you responded.

    No one had to change your answer to fit anything. Your answer was exactly how it was described. With one word, you indicate that you care if Russia interferes in our elections and then use the next 8 words of your response to indicate that you DON'T care one way or the other. Geez you people lack even basic reading fundamentals for the shirt you write.

    I skimmed your post and you seem to be in an especially miserable mood tonight. I am going to pass on your invitation to join you in that.
     
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    That doesn't make sense, as Sanders likely has the best chance of beating Trump.

    It makes sense in that Russia sees both Trump and Sanders as disruptors. And they're right in that they're both populist tourch bearers on opposite ends of the spectrum. Russia's intent is to cause chaos and division.

    If thay prop up Bernie and at the same time increase through fake accounts Bernie bro's anger and angst, then it cause more friction in the democratic party. If Bernie wins or loses, there's the possibility of disillusionment on both sides of the left and a lot of acrimony. That makes it harder to unite. And if Bernie wins it all, they still get a president who prefers non confrontation, bringing troops home and ending wars.
     
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    I skimmed your post and you seem to be in an especially miserable mood tonight. I am going to pass on your invitation to join you in that.
    This is the response you give when you lie about what you posted and get called on it and have no response so you try to say something in an attempt to look witty". It's a typical "own the liberals" post. I certainly understand that you don't understand your own statements. The thing is that what is happening right now should alarm ALL Americans. However, the "own the liberals" crowd can't see past the nose on their face because they see their "team" as "winning". In reality, your team isn't winning. America is losing. The constitution is losing. They are being beaten by a completely corrupt administration and a feckless party that cares more about maintaining power than it does the survival of our nation. You seem to me to be the type that never considers the possibility that one day the shoe just might be on the other foot.
     
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    You seem to me to be the type that never considers the possibility that one day the shoe just might be on the other foot.

    They don’t realize that we are all in the same shoes because the ruling class it letting their side win at the moment.

    Russia is mostly just doing what billionaires have been doing for 100 years.

    The immediate problem is Russian interference, but the most important problem is election interference by the super wealthy and corporations. It shouldn’t really matter what country their passport was issued by.

    I don’t want George Soros or the Koch family to influence our elections either.

    We can’t fix it with a law and preserve freedom of speech.

    Politicians have to start being 100% transparent and the public needs to get better at understanding propaganda.
     
    It makes sense in that Russia sees both Trump and Sanders as disruptors. And they're right in that they're both populist tourch bearers on opposite ends of the spectrum. Russia's intent is to cause chaos and division.

    If thay prop up Bernie and at the same time increase through fake accounts Bernie bro's anger and angst, then it cause more friction in the democratic party. If Bernie wins or loses, there's the possibility of disillusionment on both sides of the left and a lot of acrimony. That makes it harder to unite. And if Bernie wins it all, they still get a president who prefers non confrontation, bringing troops home and ending wars.
    For Sanders, I wonder if Bernie Bros are the softest social media target of dem supporters - it might be as simple as that
     
    So basically if it's a real thing, you don't believe it. If it's blown up and out of proportion, you don't believe it either. (You clearly stated either way) Why not just say you don't believe it now rather than parsing words to make it seem like you are going to even consider something that looks bad for trump?
    Because I want to wait and see if this is actually factual? Sounds like you have already made your mind up, but that is not surprising in the least.

    I would think people would take a more wait and see approach since every single time in the last 3 years you guys were first in line for the revolution with your marching orders and it turns out to be a circus and not a revolution. But, hey, man, you do you and enjoy the pitchfork mob.
     

    As was expected and predicted, Russian Interference to re-elect Trump is back. I figured it would be good to have a thread to post suspected Russian Interference campaigns and social media accounts/post. Also to discuss what they might be targeting and their strategies.

    I would expect that right now they're currently targeting divisions within the democratic party and amplifying those fault lines. So I suspect a lot of amplifying racial and minority fault lines within the party. Also, Bernie was probably right during the debate that they're likely contributing to and amplifying the Bernie Bro's aggression in order to further divide the party. This would make perfect sense as their MO isn't usually to create new controversies and division but to exaggerate and exploit the ones that are already there. Their goal being to push those divisions and suppress voter enthusiasm and turn out.
    Andy McCarthy made me laugh out loud today with regard to this.

    In the sequel, you’re asked to believe that Putin is manipulating the chesspieces to steal a second term for President Trump – somehow preferring an incumbent who beefs up the U.S. armed forces, pressures NATO allies to beef up theirs, imposes painful sanctions on Moscow, provides lethal aid to Ukraine, ramps up U.S. energy production, and seeks to thwart the Kremlin’s coveted natural-gas partnership with Germany, over an unabashed socialist who honeymooned in the Soviet Union and whose policies would wreck the American economy, end the resurgence of American energy production, and hollow out the American armed forces.

     
    Dear Russia. We have an election coming up. Please don't post any memes making fun of the Democratic Candidates.... I don't want you persuading my vote.... Thank You
     
    We know your vote is already bought and paid for

    Why would you say such a thing? It's not my fault the Democratic Candidates look like a bunch of buffoons. Or they are trying to completely change this country from what it's been for over 244 years.

    If Trump wins in 2020, you need look no further than your own Democratic party, not a meme on facebook.

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    Why would you say such a thing? It's not my fault the Democratic Candidates look like a bunch of buffoons. Or they are trying to completely change this country from what it's been for over 244 years.

    If Trump wins in 2020, you need look no further than your own Democratic party, not a meme on facebook.

    Yes, the country that has not changed in 244 years is now on the verge of collapse because some people think that going into debt for life saving medical treatments is a bad thing.
     

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