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    So, rather than burying this subject in an already broad thread I felt this topic, and the study it is based on, deserved its own thread. A debate about whether the protests have been mostly violent or not has been had multiple times in multiple threads so when I saw this analysis it piqued my interest.

    A few key points: It characterizes the BLM movement as "an overwhelmingly peaceful movement." Most of the violent demonstrations were surrounding Confederate monuments. To this mostly non-violent movement, the government has responded violently, and disproportionately so, to BLM than other demonstrations, including a militarized federal response. The media has, also, been targeted by this violent government response. There is a high rate of non-state actor involvement in BLM demonstrations. Lastly, there is a rising number of counter-protest that turn violent. I shouldn't say lastly because there is, also, a lot of data relating to Covid too.

    The Armed Conflict Location and Event Data Project (ACLED) begin tracking BLM demonstrations since this summer, the week of George Floyd's killing. I am linking the entire study for all to read. I am highlighting excerpts I personally found interesting.


    The vast majority of demonstration events associated with the BLM movement are non-violent (see map below). In more than 93% of all demonstrations connected to the movement, demonstrators have not engaged in violence or destructive activity. Peaceful protests are reported in over 2,400 distinct locations around the country. Violent demonstrations, meanwhile, have been limited to fewer than 220 locations — under 10% of the areas that experienced peaceful protests. In many urban areas like Portland, Oregon, for example, which has seen sustained unrest since Floyd’s killing, violent demonstrations are largely confined to specific blocks, rather than dispersed throughout the city (CNN, 1 September 2020).

    Yet, despite data indicating that demonstrations associated with the BLM movement are overwhelmingly peaceful, one recent poll suggested that 42% of respondents believe “most protesters [associated with the BLM movement] are trying to incite violence or destroy property” (FiveThirtyEight, 5 June 2020). This is in line with the Civiqs tracking poll which finds that “net approval for the Black Lives Matter movement peaked back on June 3 [the week following the killing of George Floyd when riots first began to be reported] and has fallen sharply since” (USA Today, 31 August 2020; Civiqs, 29 August 2020).

    Research from the University of Washington indicates that this disparity stems from political orientation and biased media framing (Washington Post, 24 August 2020), such as disproportionate coverage of violent demonstrations (Business Insider, 11 June 2020; Poynter, 25 June 2020). Groups like the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) have documented organized disinformation campaigns aimed at spreading a “deliberate mischaracterization of groups or movements [involved in the protests], such as portraying activists who support Black Lives Matter as violent extremists or claiming that antifa is a terrorist organization coordinated or manipulated by nebulous external forces” (ADL, 2020). These disinformation campaigns may be contributing to the decline in public support for the BLM movement after the initial increase following Floyd’s killing, especially amongst the white population (USA Today, 31 August 2020; Civiqs, 30 August 2020a, 30 August 2020b). This waning support also comes as the Trump administration recently shifted its “law and order” messaging to target local Democratic Party politicians from urban areas, particularly on the campaign trail (NPR, 27 August 2020).

    Despite the fact that demonstrations associated with the BLM movement have been overwhelmingly peaceful, more than 9% — or nearly one in 10 — have been met with government intervention, compared to 3% of all other demonstrations. This also marks a general increase in intervention rates relative to this time last year. In July 2019, authorities intervened in under 2% of all demonstrations — fewer than 30 events — relative to July 2020, when they intervened in 9% of all demonstrations — or over 170 events.

    Authorities have used force — such as firing less-lethal weapons like tear gas, rubber bullets, and pepper spray or beating demonstrators with batons — in over 54% of the demonstrations in which they have engaged. This too is a significant increase relative to one year ago. In July 2019, government personnel used force in just three documented demonstrations, compared to July 2020, when they used force against demonstrators in at least 65 events. Over 5% of all events linked to the BLM movement have been met with force by authorities, compared to under 1% of all other demonstrations.

    Non-state groups are becoming more active and assertive. Since May, ACLED records over 100 events in which non-state actors engaged in demonstrations (including counter-demonstrations) — the vast majority of which were in response to demonstrations associated with the BLM movement. These non-state actors include groups and militias from both the left and right side of the political spectrum, such as Antifa, the Not forking Around Coalition, the New Mexico Civil Guard, the Patriot Front, the Proud Boys, the Boogaloo Bois, and the Ku Klux Klan, among others (see map below).3

    Between 24 May and 22 August, over 360 counter-protests were recorded around the country, accounting for nearly 5% of all demonstrations. Of these, 43 — nearly 12% — turned violent, with clashes between pro-police demonstrators and demonstrators associated with the BLM movement, for example. In July alone, ACLED records over 160 counter-protests, or more than 8% of all demonstrations. Of these, 18 turned violent. This is a significant increase relative to July 2019, when only 17 counter-protests were reported around the country, or approximately 1% of all demonstrations, and only one of these allegedly turned violent.
     
    Your lack of empathy, compassion and emotions for those that lost their businesses, were assaulted and beat for trying to protect their property and the families that lost loved one is really telling.
    I have a feeling if your store was looted and burned or your neighbor was shot in the head while trying to protect a friends store your attitude would be a lot different.
    Complete and total straw man. With a dash of ad hominem just for fun.

    Not to mention supremely hypocritical. Sigh, I never said anything that would lead you to think I don’t care about individuals who were hurt. I just objected to your lies about how widespread the violence was.
     
    What is the body count so far between the 1.6 and BLM summer of riots?
    What is the cost to rebuild?
    How many buildings were destroyed between the 2?

    One seems pretty peaceful compared to the other.....
     
    Your lack of empathy, compassion and emotions for those that lost their businesses, were assaulted and beat for trying to protect their property and the families that lost loved one is really telling.
    I have a feeling if your store was looted and burned or your neighbor was shot in the head while trying to protect a friends store your attitude would be a lot different.

    meh...they were insured.

    No need to stand out front of your home with a squeegee if its flooding and you have flood insurance.

    They took an opportunity to show their fierceness in the face of danger, when they probably should have stayed home, opened their policy and called their insurer to start the claims process.
     
    What is the body count so far between the 1.6 and BLM summer of riots?
    What is the cost to rebuild?
    How many buildings were destroyed between the 2?

    One seems pretty peaceful compared to the other.....

    If I organize a completely peaceful and respectful overthrow of the federal government, does that make it ok?
     
    meh...they were insured.

    .

    This is the same old tired deflection. The capital doesn't have insurance? Why didn't they just let the peaceful protesters in instead of engaging in violence? You don't think Nancy's podium wasn't insured?

    Did David Dorn have life insurance? So his murder is technically ok since he probably had life insurance?

    Good news everyone, next hurricane, don't worry about doing anything to mitigate your loses, you have insurance. Go get a hotel, have few beers and open your policy. You will be fine.
     
    Good news everyone, next hurricane, don't worry about doing anything to mitigate your loses, you have insurance. Go get a hotel, have few beers and open your policy. You will be fine.


    LOL you absolutely will. That is, of course, you are properly insured.

    As were those business owners- or should have been. There is no clause in any policy that i am aware of that states " you must do all you can to mitigate the impending damages including armed defense in the face of civil commotion".

    Sure you can board up your windows to possibly dissuade projectiles being tossed thru window. Thats always helpful but not required.

    AS for the Capitol. yes we are the insurers.
     
    Why didn't they just let the peaceful protesters in instead of engaging in violence? You don't think Nancy's podium wasn't insured?

    I don't agree with the "meh, they were insured" take as far as the summer riots, but "peaceful" protesters entering the Capitol building? Was there a particular point to calling the insurrectionists collectively "peaceful protestors" there
    that you're trying to make that I'm missing?

    There's no doubt there were individuals who (illegally) entered the Capitol with the mindset that they were peacefully protesting, however those individuals ultimately stormed the Capitol standing shoulder-to-shoulder with the domestic terrorists among them who were willing to violently attempt to prevent Biden from taking office.

    The only true peaceful protesters that day were the ones who didn't illegally enter the Capitol grounds.

    (Kind of led to an epiphany in my own head though as far as how I view the individuals who stormed the Capitol - all who stormed are insurrectionists, but not all of the insurrectionists are out-and-out terrorists; unfortunately due to the actions of insurrectionists as a whole they, purposely or otherwise, made it easier for the actual terrorists among them to gain access to the building and greatly increased the odds of the whole thing going to absolute shirt.)
     
    LOL you absolutely will. That is, of course, you are properly insured.

    As were those business owners- or should have been. There is no clause in any policy that i am aware of that states " you must do all you can to mitigate the impending damages including armed defense in the face of civil commotion".

    Sure you can board up your windows to possibly dissuade projectiles being tossed thru window. Thats always helpful but not required.

    AS for the Capitol. yes we are the insurers.
    What a sad way to go through life. Let everything you worked for, built up just go up in flames because a giant insurance company is promising to do right by you? I really need to talk to your insurance agent.

    There use to be a time that a man would stand up and fight for what he built and thought was right, now I guess we can just cry. No thank, if someone is going to bring violence to me or mine, it will be met with violence. The 'they were insured' is for cowards. Ask the Korean American's in the LA riots. Those Americans were men.
     
    Why didn't they just let the peaceful protesters in instead of engaging in violence?
    Lol. Peaceful protestors who had already beaten cops and engaged in violence and property destruction before they even reached the Capitol building.
     
    What a sad way to go through life. Let everything you worked for, built up just go up in flames because a giant insurance company is promising to do right by you? I really need to talk to your insurance agent.

    There use to be a time that a man would stand up and fight for what he built and thought was right, now I guess we can just cry. No thank, if someone is going to bring violence to me or mine, it will be met with violence. The 'they were insured' is for cowards. Ask the Korean American's in the LA riots. Those Americans were men.
    Sad way? Sad is having to think you have to arm yourself to protect your property when that could have been accomplished thru an insurance policy.

    im him. what do you wish to talk about?

    its 2021. Not 1840. ( as much as you pine for the days of slavery, duels in the town square and cowboys vs banditos ) You go on a be a man. Ill be the man that protects his property with the proper means thru the proper ways. In the end, ill sleep in knowing that i dont have to arm and put myself in harms way to defend what i built.
     
    Sad way? Sad is having to think you have to arm yourself to protect your property when that could have been accomplished thru an insurance policy.

    im him. what do you wish to talk about?

    its 2021. Not 1840. ( as much as you pine for the days of slavery, duels in the town square and cowboys vs banditos ) You go on a be a man. Ill be the man that protects his property with the proper means thru the proper ways. In the end, ill sleep in knowing that i dont have to arm and put myself in harms way to defend what i built.
    I agree, it is sad that citizens do have to arm themselves to protect their property because the government has completely failed them and are more worried about the feeling of the mob than the safety of their citizens, but we all know that is part of the plan.
     
    I've never met a tough guy who needs to act like he's a tough guy on the Internet. I suspect if they brought violence to you and yours they'd be met with more tears than Kinzinger on day 2 of a Jan. 6 hearing. :rolleyes:
    Yeah, I forget you guys don't know me. I am far from a tough guy. You are correct, I would hopefully flood them with my tears and that is why I am not on national TV using my white man tears for manipulation and political leverage. I never claimed to be tough, smart or good looking but God had other ideas.
     
    I agree, it is sad that citizens do have to arm themselves to protect their property because the government has completely failed them and are more worried about the feeling of the mob than the safety of their citizens, but we all know that is part of the plan.

    No they dont. They choose to.

    there is a difference there. Govt has failed them for sure, hence the protests which turned into a mob.

    but not in the way you need it to be to further your "anti gubment" stance.

    Woodstock99 should be a good watch for you. No african americans , no asians.

    Just a mob of white dudes that decided that Anarchy was how Woodstock99 should be remembered. Those same dudes are now in their 40s and 50s and hold on to the same " i gotta find SOMETHING to be angry about" mantra.

    Suppose you were there?
     
    No they dont. They choose to.

    there is a difference there. Govt has failed them for sure, hence the protests which turned into a mob.

    but not in the way you need it to be to further your "anti gubment" stance.

    Woodstock99 should be a good watch for you. No african americans , no asians.

    Just a mob of white dudes that decided that Anarchy was how Woodstock99 should be remembered. Those same dudes are now in their 40s and 50s and hold on to the same " i gotta find SOMETHING to be angry about" mantra.

    Suppose you were there?
    I couldn't make that one, there was a Klan beauty pageant I was in and also a Qanon founders meeting that weekend. I did hear it was awesome though but my racist calendar was booked that weekend it was exhausting!!!

    Nothing says you are debating a from a strong position like calling people 'ists', but hey, it is all you guys people have when you position is comically flawed.
     
    @Farb

    you’ll be happy to know someone has been charged with rioting (shooting up a police station) in Minneapolis connected to the demonstrations after George Floyd was murdered. Oh, wait, lol.

    He posed as a BLM member, BTW.

     

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