Orbán is out in Hungary (4 Viewers)

[superchuck500]

Apparently Vance doesn't hold that much weight in Budapest. And most importantly, Orban has conceded . . .

 

[UncleTrvlingJim]

So does this mean Trump and MAGA try to pull back to seem more reasonable for the midterms or double down?

I think they are all in on the crazy -- they are effed for the mid terms at this point no matter what, so I think the double down

 

[efil4]

 

[longtime lurker]

Now we need to throw out our despot.

Yes indeed….is it Nov yet!?!

 

[longtime lurker]

So does this mean Trump and MAGA try to pull back to seem more reasonable for the midterms or double down?

That slope is now so slippery…they made their bed.

 

[fooferdoggie]

This is it, it was a massive defeat, so there was no way to talk around it.

gonna be hard to blame this one on Biden or the radical left.

 

[longtime lurker]

The optics of this is just so bad for MAGA and its future….Vance, the chosen one, goes out there and ends up looking like a fool on the international stage.

 

[Optimus Prime]

 

[longtime lurker]

Something (anything) that his believers will lap up and ask for more.

 

[MT15]

 

[UriUT]

 

[J-DONK]

I think they are all in on the crazy -- they are effed for the mid terms at this point no matter what, so I think the double down

They've already set a record for resignations. They know what's coming.

 

[longtime lurker]

Hey team Trump, that was really impressive with how JD caused that dictator to lose….so its never too early to start sending your golden child out to all the contested battle spots here in the good old US of A. Which looks like that might be pretty much every State with the things are headed for ya.

 

[UriUT]

I hope it would be easier than Poland's undoing PiS's damage.

Supreme Court rules Polish government unlawfully removed judicial officials

Poland’s Supreme Court has ruled that the justice minister, Waldemar Żurek, and his predecessor, Adam Bodnar, acted unlawfully when they removed three judicial disciplinary officials—Piotr Schab, Przemysław Radzik, and Michał Lasota—before their fixed terms expired. The court’s professional...

ladd.law.wisc.edu

Plus, I am unfamiliar with Hungary's system. I wonder how difficult it would be to unwind their media ownership. I believe some were nationalized?

That reminds me how herculean this win is. Orban's party had an air time advantage on their networks.

 

[zztop]

I wonder if Tucker Carlson is crying somewhere


but also, I'm in shock because I figured Orban had rigged the system so much, that it would be virtually impossible for him to ever get removed from power.

 

[UriUT]

I wonder if Tucker Carlson is crying somewhere


but also, I'm in shock because I figured Orban had rigged the system so much, that it would be virtually impossible for him to ever get removed from power.

Same. I had expected that the votes count would be compromised in his favor. The polling was clear that his party was 10 pts down. I also expected that he would eventually switch to a more totalitarian method and just negate the election. Similarly to how putin cast off the charade and cracked down on protests.

 

[fooferdoggie]

will blame it on Biden or the radical left and say it was a fake election of course.

 

[Optimus Prime]

The optics of this is just so bad for MAGA and its future….Vance, the chosen one, goes out there and ends up looking like a fool on the international stage.

Vance visits the Pope, he dies the next day

Vance visits Orbán who’s been in power for 16 years, he gets his arse handed to him in an election a week later

Vance not a good luck charm

 

[GrandAdmiral]

Vance visits the Pope, he dies the next day

Vance visits Orbán who’s been in power for 16 years, he gets his arse handed to him in an election a week later

Vance not a good luck charm

Went to Pakistan as well to lead the talks. We know how that turned out (it was a no-win in any case).