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[Huntn]

SpaceX’s Starship explodes in second failure for Musk’s Mars program

Back-to-back mishaps indicate big setbacks for program to launch satellites and send humans to the moon and Mars

www.theguardian.com

The failure comes just more than a month after the company’s seventh Starship flight also ended in an explosive failure. The back-to-back mishaps occurred in early mission phases that SpaceX has easily surpassed previously, indicating serious setbacks for a program Musk has sought to speed up this year.

 

[Sendai]

There is absolutely nothing Sendai won’t defend about this Administration, is there?

Still operating under this crazy assumption that these kids know what they’re doing, when they clearly do not. That they aren’t violating laws and regulations left and right, that they aren’t compromising our personal data every damn day, that they aren’t costing the taxpayer more money than they are saving especially when you consider that most everything they do is illegal or immoral and will have to be walked back eventually.

Nobody with a lick of sense thinks that DOGE is doing good things by the book. They are doing horrible things against the law and the Constitution.

All I did was point out the reason why the doge sges are burning the midnight oil. Not particularly on board with the methods. I’m from the school of inventory and study, evaluate, and make a plan. Review the plan and make adjustments, then execute the plan.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

All I did was point out the reason why the doge sges are burning the midnight oil. Not particularly on board with the methods. I’m from the school of inventory and study, evaluate, and make a plan. Review the plan and make adjustments, then execute the plan.

Cool...has DOGE (In South African slang, "doge" is a vulgar term for a foolish or despicable person) ever conducted any studies, evaluations or make a plan before taking any actions?


Cool plan!

 

[efil4]

You’ve never worked with kids like them. They’re animals. Indefatigable.

There's that " corporate spirit".

Use a resource until it's exhausted with as minimal cost as possible.
Repeat.
Profit.

 

[MT15]

All I did was point out the reason why the doge sges are burning the midnight oil. Not particularly on board with the methods. I’m from the school of inventory and study, evaluate, and make a plan. Review the plan and make adjustments, then execute the plan.

Then why do you defend their practices?

You don’t seem to believe they are breaking the law, you don’t seem to think they are being careless with personal data. At least you never criticize them for their lawlessness or errors.

It seems like tacit approval to me. Happy to be wrong.

 

[Sendai]

Then why do you defend their practices?

You don’t seem to believe they are breaking the law, you don’t seem to think they are being careless with personal data. At least you never criticize them for their lawlessness or errors.

It seems like tacit approval to me. Happy to be wrong.

I’m not defending their practices. In fact I very clearly, in the previous post, pointed out my preferred method, which is quite different.

 

[Optimus Prime]

All I did was point out the reason why the doge sges are burning the midnight oil. Not particularly on board with the methods. I’m from the school of inventory and study, evaluate, and make a plan. Review the plan and make adjustments, then execute the plan.

I’m not defending their practices. In fact I very clearly, in the previous post, pointed out my preferred method, which is quite different.

Maybe not defending but definitely not particularly bothered by the methods used either

That response is more for someone driving a different route to the office than you would use, “That’s not the way I would go” or “I’m not particularly on board with that route”

Basically it’s a “That’s not what I would do, but you do you” and that means you can’t really say that you’re against it

 

[MT15]

I’m not defending their practices. In fact I very clearly, in the previous post, pointed out my preferred method, which is quite different.

Yet, you do seem to be defensive of them. In multiple threads.

Do you think they are breaking laws and regulations? Do you think they are being careless with personal data that they shouldn’t even have access to? Do you realize that their firings have been ruled illegal by multiple courts? That they are lying and concealing exactly what they are doing?

Do you acknowledge that GOP lawmakers were given a private number for Musk, so they can call and get their pet funding in their states reinstated? Susan Collins just bragged today that all USDA funding had been restored to Maine universities.

And the Admin is lying in court filings and claiming Musk is not in charge of DOGE, because it would be illegal for him to do so?

There is nothing going on here on the level, it’s all shady oligarchy type stuff.

 

[J-DONK]

Yet, you do seem to be defensive of them. In multiple threads.

Do you think they are breaking laws and regulations? Do you think they are being careless with personal data that they shouldn’t even have access to? Do you realize that their firings have been ruled illegal by multiple courts? That they are lying and concealing exactly what they are doing?

Do you acknowledge that GOP lawmakers were given a private number for Musk, so they can call and get their pet funding in their states reinstated? Susan Collins just bragged today that all USDA funding had been restored to Maine universities.

And the Admin is lying in court filings and claiming Musk is not in charge of DOGE, because it would be illegal for him to do so?

There is nothing going on here on the level, it’s all shady oligarchy type stuff.

It's shocking most of the conserative posters on the board haven't had this moment:



You complain about getting compared to Nazi's, and then you Sieg Heil everytime more then 3 of you get together.

The universe is trying real hard to tell conseratives how awful they are: You're big bad George Soros? Jewish survivor of Nazi occupation in Europe. Soros isn't even his real name. His family changed it to hid their identiy from the Nazis.

 

[MT15]

A good snippet from Katie Couric’s new podcast.

 

[bird]

It’s common sense that money buys speech in the political arena. Even in post colonial America.

Sense is neither common nor is it arbitrarily correct.

The use of money as speech is not listed in the document. The decisions by the SCOTUS regarding money were arbitrary and had no basis in the constitution. The end result can be seen most clearly in the monies poured into individual races such the the WI Supreme Court race and specifically the last presidential race by Musk. The impact of “one dollar, one vote” is obvious and is anti-democracy.

 

[Dragon]

You’ve never worked with kids like them. They’re animals. Indefatigable.

Oh, I have—multiple times—and my answer remains the same.

Working those kinds of hours makes serious mistakes and security breaches almost inevitable.

I've been in IT since 1994, and not only do I know these kinds of "kids," but I was one myself. If you want exhausted, careless, and mono-focused young employees handling sensitive social security data and the livelihoods of thousands, then you've truly lost all credibility on this board.

 

[bird]

All I did was point out the reason why the doge sges are burning the midnight oil. Not particularly on board with the methods. I’m from the school of inventory and study, evaluate, and make a plan. Review the plan and make adjustments, then execute the plan.

DOGE Bros are incompetent idiots. The only thing that they are burning is the government.

 

[Sendai]

Oh, I have—multiple times—and my answer remains the same.

Working those kinds of hours makes serious mistakes and security breaches almost inevitable.

I've been in IT since 1994, and not only do I know these kinds of "kids," but I was one myself. If you want exhausted, careless, and mono-focused young employees handling sensitive social security data and the livelihoods of thousands, then you've truly lost all credibility on this board.

I started in IT in 1971. Data Base, Bleeding Edge technology for the period. Fully integrated, interactive systems. Data Base and Application design, and implementation. I too was one. Until I hit my early 30’s. Loved it. Had significant accomplishments burning the midnight oil. Produced Quality long term business applications. And I was able to quite comfortably retire at 54.

I never said I wanted it. And they can be indefatigable animals that figure thinge out. These people catch rockets. Sometimes when you break things you find out what is truly essential.

 

[RobF]

I started in IT in 1971. Data Base, Bleeding Edge technology for the period. Fully integrated, interactive systems. Data Base and Application design, and implementation. I too was one. Until I hit my early 30’s. Loved it. Had significant accomplishments burning the midnight oil. Produced Quality long term business applications. And I was able to quite comfortably retire at 54.

I never said I wanted it. And they can be indefatigable animals that figure thinge out. These people catch rockets. Sometimes when you break things you find out what is truly essential.

So on the one hand, we have basic fundamental facts of biology, like, animals and people are not indefatigable, and are less capable when sleep-deprived.

You'd think that'd be unarguable, but, look at the other hand, and we have an old guy sharing his rose-tinted reminiscences of his youth and throwing out trite expressions like "these people catch rockets" (these people do not) and "sometimes when you break things you find out what is truly essential" (spoiler: you don't need to break things to find out they're essential and it's generally a bad idea. Like your legs. Do you need to break your legs to find out how important they are? No, no you do not.).

Yeah, it's unarguable.

 

[Dragon]

I started in IT in 1971. Data Base, Bleeding Edge technology for the period. Fully integrated, interactive systems. Data Base and Application design, and implementation. I too was one. Until I hit my early 30’s. Loved it. Had significant accomplishments burning the midnight oil. Produced Quality long term business applications. And I was able to quite comfortably retire at 54.

I never said I wanted it. And they can be indefatigable animals that figure thinge out. These people catch rockets. Sometimes when you break things you find out what is truly essential.

I've spent much of the last 15 years in QA, and the core principle of QA is simple: you don’t break things in live applications or databases.
When you do, real people suffer—whether financially or even physically. Your casual remark about "breaking things to find out what is truly essential" isn’t just misguided—it’s reckless and irresponsible.

You analyze, test, and improve on copies of applications or data—never on live systems. Breaking things in a live environment isn’t experimentation; it’s negligence.

 

[Sendai]

Sense is neither common nor is it arbitrarily correct.

The use of money as speech is not listed in the document. The decisions by the SCOTUS regarding money were arbitrary and had no basis in the constitution. The end result can be seen most clearly in the monies poured into individual races such the the WI Supreme Court race and specifically the last presidential race by Musk. The impact of “one dollar, one vote” is obvious and is anti-democracy.

It’s common sense that media in its many and ancient forms is speech. And it costs money. So no need for the document to mention money.

And the same guys that gave us Roe gave us money is speech.

 

[MT15]

These people catch rockets.

Provide a smidgeon of proof that these kids did that. We aren’t even able to find out who they are definitively. I would be willing to bet these are not the engineers who are responsible for that, and you don’t know either, but you keep saying it to put lipstick on a pig.

 

[TampaJoe]

I've spent much of the last 15 years in QA, and the core principle of QA is simple: you don’t break things in live applications or databases.
When you do, real people suffer—whether financially or even physically. Your casual remark about "breaking things to find out what is truly essential" isn’t just misguided—it’s reckless and irresponsible.

You analyze, test, and improve on copies of applications or data—never on live systems. Breaking things in a live environment isn’t experimentation; it’s negligence.

It would be nice if we could test everything in life in quality prior to implementing it in production. But that isn’t always possible.

That being said, the folks who do reorganizations for a living have a different process from what appears to be the case with Doge. I don’t disagree that a deep dive into spending and priorities is warranted and long past due but I do believe there is a better way to accomplish the objective with less pain and suffering.