Musk Droppings (3 Viewers)

[Huntn]

SpaceX’s Starship explodes in second failure for Musk’s Mars program

Back-to-back mishaps indicate big setbacks for program to launch satellites and send humans to the moon and Mars

www.theguardian.com

The failure comes just more than a month after the company’s seventh Starship flight also ended in an explosive failure. The back-to-back mishaps occurred in early mission phases that SpaceX has easily surpassed previously, indicating serious setbacks for a program Musk has sought to speed up this year.

 

[LA 2 L.A.]

I’ve been reading about the subject for awhile...I spent 30+ plus years on the bleeding edge of computer technology and application development.

How do you find the time to read in depth about every subject there is and have worked at an expert level in every industry and profession. Do you have longevity, regeneration powers and TARDIS like Doctor Who has? Hold on, are you Doctor Who?

 

[RobF]

I get the point. Oftentimes solutions to insurmountable problems are developed by people who dare to think outside the box. Things we thought impossible 20 years ago ago are now possible due to advances in technology only a few imagined back in the day.

If there is a need, at some point in time someone will figure out a way to meet it.

No, that's not how anything works.

Because there are also lots of things we thought impossible 20 years ago that are still impossible now, regardless of what people were imagining.

Whether a specific thing that has not previously been done is potentially viable - as in, not only capable of being done, but worth being done - is down to the specifics of that particular thing.

Whether it's possible now is not down to the general notion of other things having become viable, any more than it not being possible now would be down to the generality of other things not having become viable.

Because that's not how that works.

"Other things were possible, so this is too," is an empty argument proffered only by those incapable of offering anything else.

 

[LA 2 L.A.]

If there is a need, at some point in time someone will figure out a way to meet it.

Elon Musk has not been nor will he ever be that someone. He talks a mean game, but his total track record of delivering on all of the promises or "visions" he's had is abysmal and he was not the brain trust behind what few things he somewhat delivered on. Elon Musk is Harold Hill without any redeeming qualities or human decency.

 

[Dragon]

To avoid collisions, satellites automatically adjust their orbits when they are too close to another object. To do this, they use data from national tracking systems, like the United States Space Command.

Hugh Lewis, a professor of aeronautics at the University of Birmingham, found that SpaceX conducted 144,404 conjunction risk mitigation manoeuvres from December 2024 to May 2025, which he said is a 200 percent increase from the previous six months.

Lewis said the increase in collisions are due to a larger Starlink fleet, an increase in the number of objects orbiting the Earth.

The move comes after a rare incident in December where SpaceX said one of its satellites created a “small” amount of debris and cut off communications with a space craft at 418 kilometres in altitude. SpaceX said it will be investigating the cause of the incident.

https://www.euronews.com/next/2026/01/03/spacex-to-lower-thousands-of-starlink-satellites-in-2026-as-collisions-rise-company-says

Imagine if what can happen if Musk or others put multiple huge datacenters with a solar arays the size of multipe football fields up in this. Do you really trust a man who is so focused on his goal that he cuts corners everywhere to succeed.

 

[Sendai]

I get the point. Oftentimes solutions to insurmountable problems are developed by people who dare to think outside the box. Things we thought impossible 20 years ago ago are now possible due to advances in technology only a few imagined back in the day.

If there is a need, at some point in time someone will figure out a way to meet it.

I remember in late 1980 looking at our brand new IBM 3380 disk Drives. The first 1 GB. A stunning achievement. It cost $83,000.
The size of a small refrigerator.

The CFexpress card for my Nikon Z9 camera is 512Gb. Cost $350.
It measures 1”x1.5”x1/8”

My last project pulled data from an array of SAP systems across Europe and transmitted via satellite to an array of non SAP Systems across Borth and South America. Nearly instantaneous.

As I said. I learned very quickly to subdue doubt.


Who knows. Maybe one day we’ll have fountains of Paradise.

 

[RobF]

I remember in late 1980 looking at our brand new IBM 3380 disk Drives. The first 1 GB. A stunning achievement. It cost $83,000.
The size of a small refrigerator.

The CFexpress card for my Nikon Z9 camera is 512Gb. Cost $350.
It measures 1”x1.5”x1/8”

My last project pulled data from an array of SAP systems across Europe and transmitted via satellite to an array of non SAP Systems across Borth and South America. Nearly instantaneous.

As I said. I learned very quickly to subdue doubt.


Who knows. Maybe one day we’ll have fountains of Paradise.

I'm trying to work out what the problem is here.

Do you just... not understand the basic concept of some things becoming possible not meaning literally anything else is possible?

Like, if someone had said at any point over the last many decades, "I don't think we'll have practical personal flying cars in the near future, and here's why," if you'd gone, "I witnessed 30+ years of naysayers finding out that, it can in fact, happen, I know better than to have that doubt," you would have been wrong to not have that doubt because we do not, in fact, have practical personal flying cars, even now. You get that, right? You understand that there are vast numbers of things people said weren't possible or sensible that did, in fact, turn out to not be possible or sensible? That basic concept can penetrate your brain, right?

Or do you understand it, but just don't want to admit it because then you'd have to get into the specifics of why you think data centers in space aren't a bad idea, or even acknowledge that yes, there are in fact multiple reasons why they may indeed be a bad idea, instead of babbling about data storage advances and satellite transmissions across 'Borth America', and you just, y'know, can't?

 

[TampaJoe]

No, that's not how anything works.

Because there are also lots of things we thought impossible 20 years ago that are still impossible now, regardless of what people were imagining.

Whether a specific thing that has not previously been done is potentially viable - as in, not only capable of being done, but worth being done - is down to the specifics of that particular thing.

Whether it's possible now is not down to the general notion of other things having become viable, any more than it not being possible now would be down to the generality of other things not having become viable.

Because that's not how that works.

"Other things were possible, so this is too," is an empty argument proffered only by those incapable of offering anything else.

Yeah well I guess you are an expert on how everything works.

 

[Sendai]

I'm trying to work out what the problem is here.

Do you just... not understand the basic concept of some things becoming possible not meaning literally anything else is possible?

Like, if someone had said at any point over the last many decades, "I don't think we'll have practical personal flying cars in the near future, and here's why," if you'd gone, "I witnessed 30+ years of naysayers finding out that, it can in fact, happen, I know better than to have that doubt," you would have been wrong to not have that doubt because we do not, in fact, have practical personal flying cars, even now. You get that, right? You understand that there are vast numbers of things people said weren't possible or sensible that did, in fact, turn out to not be possible or sensible? That basic concept can penetrate your brain, right?

Or do you understand it, but just don't want to admit it because then you'd have to get into the specifics of why you think data centers in space aren't a bad idea, or even acknowledge that yes, there are in fact multiple reasons why they may indeed be a bad idea, instead of babbling about data storage advances and satellite transmissions across 'Borth America', and you just, y'know, can't?

And you don’t seem to understand the issues of data centers in space might well be solvable. And there are a lot of folks out there inventive enough to solve those problems. Fortunately they don’t think the same as you.

There’s a 3,5” solid state board that’s a 5 TB drive in my 8”x8”x2” 32GB desktop that 20 years ago didn’t seem remotely possible.

 

[TampaJoe]

I remember in late 1980 looking at our brand new IBM 3380 disk Drives. The first 1 GB. A stunning achievement. It cost $83,000.
The size of a small refrigerator.

The CFexpress card for my Nikon Z9 camera is 512Gb. Cost $350.
It measures 1”x1.5”x1/8”

My last project pulled data from an array of SAP systems across Europe and transmitted via satellite to an array of non SAP Systems across Borth and South America. Nearly instantaneous.

As I said. I learned very quickly to subdue doubt.


Who knows. Maybe one day we’ll have fountains of Paradise.

I remember those drives. They sounded like planes spinning up. We went from a room full of those to something about the size of a two drawer file cabinet. Now days we carry more computing power than that in our pockets. I’m sure some expert back then thought that impossible or impractical as well.

They are probably spend a lot of time posting on message boards giving expert opinions criticizing billionaires as people with no vision.

 

[RobF]

Yeah well I guess you are an expert on how everything works.

You don't have to be an expert to understand that some things being possible doesn't mean that everything is possible, you just have to not be spectacularly dense.

 

[Sendai]

I remember those drives. They sounded like planes spinning up. We went from a room full of those to something about the size of a two drawer file cabinet. Now days we carry more computing power than that in our pockets. I’m sure some expert back then thought that impossible or impractical as well.

They are probably spend a lot of time posting on message boards giving expert opinions criticizing billionaires as people with no vision.

I knew some of the naysayers. There’s always naysayers.

The air conditioning systems necessary to support a data center were enormous.

 

[LA 2 L.A.]

Yeah well I guess you are an expert on how everything works.

You're confusing SendAI and RobF. SendAI is the self-proclaimed expert on how everything works. Not surprised you quote SendAI to support him while ignoring SendAI's constant claim of infinite expertise in everything, but mak a snarky remark to RobF, who's never claimed to be an expert on everything, like SendAI constantly does.

 

[LA 2 L.A.]

They are probably spend a lot of time posting on message boards giving expert opinions criticizing billionaires as people with no vision.

The projection is very strong in this comment. Elon Musk has never had anything to do with any successful business that wasn't made successful by someone who wasn't Elon Musk. Elon Musk has the same "vision" as leaches and ticks. He definitely deserves credit for being one of the most successful parasites at being a parasite that the world has ever seen.

 

[Sendai]

https://www.euronews.com/next/2026/01/03/spacex-to-lower-thousands-of-starlink-satellites-in-2026-as-collisions-rise-company-says

Imagine if what can happen if Musk or others put multiple huge datacenters with a solar arays the size of multipe football fields up in this. Do you really trust a man who is so focused on his goal that he cuts corners everywhere to succeed.

Well, these folks aren’t musk.

Knowledge beyond our planet: space-based data centres

Space is changing, and the number of actors operating in orbit is increasing. Meanwhile, the amount of data collected by satellites is increasing as well. This data-treasure is priceless, supporting human and robotic exploration of space, helping us to take care of our planet as well as to...

www.esa.int

 

[LA 2 L.A.]

I knew some of the naysayers. There’s always naysayers.

The air conditioning systems necessary to support a data center were enormous.

You and TampaJoe are being really dense about this and as usual are twisting what's been said to fit the narrative you want to push, regardless of reality and truth.

Musk claimed he would be putting millions of data centers into space, because it would be more efficient to have them in space. That is false. Even if it's possible to put data centers in space right now, it will be inherently more difficult to operate a data center in space than it is on Earth, because of the laws of physics.

RobF posted two credible sources pointing out how the laws of physics make a data center in space more difficult to operate than it is on Earth.

SendAI then went to "it's possible" and posted a bunch of links he apparently didn't bother to read, because the articles SendAI linked to confirmed that it's more difficult to have a data center in space, let alone a million of them.

SendAI always defends Musk when Musk is critized. As is the case with everyone that SendAI defends, SendAI has to twist and distort the truth to defend the person they are defending.

 

[J-DONK]

Well, these folks aren’t musk.

Knowledge beyond our planet: space-based data centres

Space is changing, and the number of actors operating in orbit is increasing. Meanwhile, the amount of data collected by satellites is increasing as well. This data-treasure is priceless, supporting human and robotic exploration of space, helping us to take care of our planet as well as to...

www.esa.int

"It has been a visionary project," says Nicolas Longépé, ESA Earth Observation Data Scientist and ESA lead of the project. "We tried to predict how technology will be in 10 years to make space data centres reality."

I work in a datacenter.

I'll give you two major points:

1. Already talked about: cooling - it's going to be really hard in space.
2. Latency - the use cases will be limited.

 

[Dragon]

Well, these folks aren’t musk.

Knowledge beyond our planet: space-based data centres

Space is changing, and the number of actors operating in orbit is increasing. Meanwhile, the amount of data collected by satellites is increasing as well. This data-treasure is priceless, supporting human and robotic exploration of space, helping us to take care of our planet as well as to...

www.esa.int

No because Musk don't care about collateral damage - neither to humans or other infrastructure which his long history has proven.

This was a tiny starlink satelite.
https://www.reuters.com/science/sta...nication-with-one-its-satellites-2025-12-18/?

What do you think would happen if a major space installation like a datacenter would suffer a major incident? A Data center far bigger and heavier than anything we have sent in space before? Musk is more known as someone who cuts corners to "achieve" what he wants - remember the burning Teslas or the so called self driving cars which killed people?

Or his "intelligent" robot which had a man inside?

 

[TampaJoe]

You don't have to be an expert to understand that some things being possible doesn't mean that everything is possible, you just have to not be spectacularly dense.

Gee Rob. I didn’t say that. So you can stop picking nits.