Musk Droppings (3 Viewers)

[Huntn]

SpaceX’s Starship explodes in second failure for Musk’s Mars program

Back-to-back mishaps indicate big setbacks for program to launch satellites and send humans to the moon and Mars

www.theguardian.com

The failure comes just more than a month after the company’s seventh Starship flight also ended in an explosive failure. The back-to-back mishaps occurred in early mission phases that SpaceX has easily surpassed previously, indicating serious setbacks for a program Musk has sought to speed up this year.

 

[Sendai]

This isn't answering the question. Is the car totalled because you're replacing the entire, or half of the frame? You understand why other car manufacturers never went this route? Why this wasn't genius?

I feel like my point was extremely clear.

This seems to be a partial answer to yes.

https://www.kbb.com/car-news/insurers-are-writing-off-lightly-damaged-teslas/

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Who is using Tesla patents? That's a bold claim.

In China players such as BYD, Zeekr, Xpeng, Nio, and Li Auto are all using giga casting.
Volvo and its EV brand Polestar, have since decided to follow the same path and also invested in giga-presses (but Volvo calls the components mega-castings).
Other notable car companies who are publicly known to be following this trend (or plan to) include Mercedes-Benz, Volkswagen, Toyota, General Motors, Hyundai, and Chinese electric vehicle start-ups Nio and Xpeng.5Many other OEMs are at least looking at giga-castings or are already secretly working on it.

 

[TampaJoe]

In China players such as BYD, Zeekr, Xpeng, Nio, and Li Auto are all using giga casting.
Volvo and its EV brand Polestar, have since decided to follow the same path and also invested in giga-presses (but Volvo calls the components mega-castings).
Other notable car companies who are publicly known to be following this trend (or plan to) include Mercedes-Benz, Volkswagen, Toyota, General Motors, Hyundai, and Chinese electric vehicle start-ups Nio and Xpeng.5Many other OEMs are at least looking at giga-castings or are already secretly working on it.

Repair costs on many “luxury” brands can be really expensive. Many require you to take your vehicle to a brand certified body shop. If one isn’t in your area then you might not be able to buy parts locally and/or be forced to ship the vehicle to another city or state to a certified body shop. I would recommend asking before you buy.

 

[Sendai]

A lot of those recalls are due to serious saftety issues and are usually found after people has been involved in accidents. So how can you just dismiss them because they are "software updates" - Safety issues can kill people regardsless of what the cause of tthose issues are and in an electric car, software is the most critical system.

Five Star safety rating

https://cdn.euroncap.com/media/77930/euroncap-2022-tesla-model-y-datasheet.pdf

 

[Dragon]

A car magazine providing a five star rating on a test vehicle says nothing about the real issues with Tesla - namely its software

As of 2024, there have been 51 reported fatalities involving Tesla's Autopilot function, with 44 verified by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) or expert testimony, and two involving Full Self-Driving (FSD) mode. These incidents have raised concerns about the system's ability to detect stationary emergency vehicles and other obstacles.

Court Rules Tesla’s Autopilot Defective For Normal Use After Phantom Braking​

https://www.carscoops.com/2025/02/german-court-finds-teslas-autopilot-defective-after-lawsuit/

 

[MT15]

A car magazine providing a five star rating on a test vehicle says nothing about the real issues with Tesla - namel its software

As of 2024, there have been 51 reported fatalities involving Tesla's Autopilot function, with 44 verified by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) or expert testimony, and two involving Full Self-Driving (FSD) mode. These incidents have raised concerns about the system's ability to detect stationary emergency vehicles and other obstacles.

Court Rules Tesla’s Autopilot Defective For Normal Use After Phantom Braking​

https://www.carscoops.com/2025/02/german-court-finds-teslas-autopilot-defective-after-lawsuit/

And what should be noted is that Musk made the decision to oversell Tesla capabilities on this front, directly leading to these deaths. He has been documented to have circumvented safety measures as well.

Without someone as irresponsible as Musk at the helm, it’s quite possible that Tesla would have made more achievements and in a safer manner.

Sendai - it’s possible to separate Musk from what his companies have achieved. I am related to a teaching physicist - he had disdain for Musk well before all this political stuff. Physicists are a very small community. The word was out on Musk years ago.

 

[RobF]

Guess we can put this in here:



What's being referenced there is Musk posting on X, in response to an increasing number of protests outside Tesla dealers, that an "investigation has found 5 ActBlue-funded groups responsible for Tesla “protests”: Troublemakers, Disruption Project, Rise & Resist, Indivisible Project and Democratic Socialists of America. ActBlue funders include George Soros, Reid Hoffman, Herbert Sandler, Patricia Bauman, and Leah Hunt-Hendrix."

Obviously there's a lot wrong with that. The Tesla protests are being organised by individuals - you can see it happening in realtime on BlueSky - not random groups with billionaire funding, and Herbert Sandler died in 2019 and Patricia Bauman last year.

But the individually naming and blaming wealthy people with Jewish backgrounds for it is clearly, strikingly, wrong.

Of course, I'm sure Sendai will be along in a minute to point out that some of the people he blamed aren't Jewish, and there's lots of other wealthy Jewish people he didn't blame, so it "just happened to be" that a majority of the people he's blaming have Jewish heritage...

 

[bird]

Guess we can put this in here:



What's being referenced there is Musk posting on X, in response to an increasing number of protests outside Tesla dealers, that an "investigation has found 5 ActBlue-funded groups responsible for Tesla “protests”: Troublemakers, Disruption Project, Rise & Resist, Indivisible Project and Democratic Socialists of America. ActBlue funders include George Soros, Reid Hoffman, Herbert Sandler, Patricia Bauman, and Leah Hunt-Hendrix."

Obviously there's a lot wrong with that. The Tesla protests are being organised by individuals - you can see it happening in realtime on BlueSky - not random groups with billionaire funding, and Herbert Sandler died in 2019 and Patricia Bauman last year.

But the individually naming and blaming wealthy people with Jewish backgrounds for it is clearly, strikingly, wrong.

Of course, I'm sure Sendai will be along in a minute to point out that some of the people he blamed aren't Jewish, and there's lots of other wealthy Jewish people he didn't blame, so it "just happened to be" that a majority of the people he's blaming have Jewish heritage...

Musk can take a flying fork at a rolling doughnut. I don’t care about his alleged business success. That success doesn’t translate at all to government. In that realm he is a simpleton as well as a cancer and he needs to be excised.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Guess we can put this in here:



What's being referenced there is Musk posting on X, in response to an increasing number of protests outside Tesla dealers, that an "investigation has found 5 ActBlue-funded groups responsible for Tesla “protests”: Troublemakers, Disruption Project, Rise & Resist, Indivisible Project and Democratic Socialists of America. ActBlue funders include George Soros, Reid Hoffman, Herbert Sandler, Patricia Bauman, and Leah Hunt-Hendrix."

Obviously there's a lot wrong with that. The Tesla protests are being organised by individuals - you can see it happening in realtime on BlueSky - not random groups with billionaire funding, and Herbert Sandler died in 2019 and Patricia Bauman last year.

But the individually naming and blaming wealthy people with Jewish backgrounds for it is clearly, strikingly, wrong.

Of course, I'm sure Sendai will be along in a minute to point out that some of the people he blamed aren't Jewish, and there's lots of other wealthy Jewish people he didn't blame, so it "just happened to be" that a majority of the people he's blaming have Jewish heritage...

They want to be able to do Nazi-ish stuff without being called Nazis

 

[Sendai]

A car magazine providing a five star rating on a test vehicle says nothing about the real issues with Tesla - namely its software

As of 2024, there have been 51 reported fatalities involving Tesla's Autopilot function, with 44 verified by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) or expert testimony, and two involving Full Self-Driving (FSD) mode. These incidents have raised concerns about the system's ability to detect stationary emergency vehicles and other obstacles.

Court Rules Tesla’s Autopilot Defective For Normal Use After Phantom Braking​

https://www.carscoops.com/2025/02/german-court-finds-teslas-autopilot-defective-after-lawsuit/

The European New Car Assessment Programme (Euro NCAP) is a European voluntary car safety performance assessment programme (i.e. a New Car Assessment Program) based in Leuven, Belgium. Formed in 1996, the first results were released in February 1997.[1] It was originally started by the Transport Research Laboratory for the UK Department for Transport but later backed by several European governments, as well as by the European Union (EU).[2][3] Their slogan is "For Safer Cars".

Not a car magazine

 

[bird]

The European New Car Assessment Programme (Euro NCAP) is a European voluntary car safety performance assessment programme (i.e. a New Car Assessment Program) based in Leuven, Belgium. Formed in 1996, the first results were released in February 1997.[1] It was originally started by the Transport Research Laboratory for the UK Department for Transport but later backed by several European governments, as well as by the European Union (EU).[2][3] Their slogan is "For Safer Cars".

Not a car magazine

None of which has anything to do with Musk.

 

[RobF]

The European New Car Assessment Programme (Euro NCAP) is a European voluntary car safety performance assessment programme (i.e. a New Car Assessment Program) based in Leuven, Belgium. Formed in 1996, the first results were released in February 1997.[1] It was originally started by the Transport Research Laboratory for the UK Department for Transport but later backed by several European governments, as well as by the European Union (EU).[2][3] Their slogan is "For Safer Cars".

Not a car magazine

Once again, you've completely missed the point.

Dragon has pointed out that:

As of 2024, there have been 51 reported fatalities involving Tesla's Autopilot function, with 44 verified by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) or expert testimony, and two involving Full Self-Driving (FSD) mode. These incidents have raised concerns about the system's ability to detect stationary emergency vehicles and other obstacles.

You've linked to the NCAP tests, which are based on relative crash protection. They do not assess the reliability of autopilot or other software systems, related recalls, or the relative likelihood of being in a crash, just what happens in some crash scenarios. They do not at all refute @Dragon's point of there having been "51 reported fatalities involved Tesla's Autopilot function".

Could you stop, y'know, being repetitively wrong? I do actually have better things to do than being a Sendai-checker.