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Anxiety surges as Donald Trump may be indicted soon: Why 2024 is 'the final battle' and 'the big one'​

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Anxiety surges as Donald Trump may be indicted soon: Why 2024 is 'the final battle' and 'the big one'

Donald Trump's many legal problems – and calls for protests – have generated new fears of political violence and anxiety about the 2024 election.
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WASHINGTON – It looks like American politics is entering a new age of anxiety, triggered by an unprecedented legal development: The potential indictment of a former president and current presidential candidate.

Donald Trump's many legal problems – and calls for protests by his followers – have generated new fears of political violence and anxiety about the unknowable impact all this will have on the already-tense 2024 presidential election

I’ll reframe this is a more accurate way, Are Presidents above the law? This new age was spurred into existence when home grown dummies elected a corrupt, mentally ill, anti-democratic, would be dictator as President and don’t bother to hold him responsible for his crimes, don’t want to because in the ensuing mayhem and destruction, they think they will be better off. The man is actually advocating violence (not the first time). And btw, screw democracy too. If this feeling spreads, we are In deep shirt.

This goes beyond one treasonous Peice of work and out to all his minions. This is on you or should we be sympathetic to the idea of they can’t help being selfish suckers to the Nation’s detriment? Donald Trump is the single largest individual threat to our democracy and it‘s all going to boil down to will the majority of the GOP return to his embrace and start slinging his excrement to support him?
 
Optimus Prime said:
Former FBI director James Comey is being accused of ‘threatening the life’ of Donald Trump after posting an Instagram picture of seashells on a beach.

“Cool shell formation on my beach walk,” Comey captioned the post, which depicted seashells spelling out the numbers “8647.”

But conservatives were quick to suggest that their formation was intended as a veiled threat against the commander-in-chief, as “86” has a history of being used as a verb in American slang to mean removing someone from a venue and Trump is the 47th president of the United States.

Comey subsequently deleted the image and explained in a separate post: “I posted a picture earlier of some shells I saw on a beach walk, which I assumed were a political message.

“I didn’t realize some folks associate those numbers with violence. It never occurred to me but I oppose violence of any kind so I took the post down.”

He did not clarify what “political message” he assumed the shells alluded to and his attempt to address the controversy only served to stoke Republican fury.

Tennessee GOP Rep. Andy Ogles moved swiftly to announce he had written to Secret Service Director Sean Curran and FBI Director Kash Patel “urging an immediate joint investigation,” adding: “If Comey broke the law, he shouldn’t get a pass. He should be in handcuffs.”

Patel responded on X that the bureau was aware of Comey’s post and was “in communication with the Secret Service and Director Curran.”

“Primary jurisdiction is with SS on these matters and we, the FBI, will provide all necessary support,” he added...............

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Ex-FBI director James Comey accused of ‘threats’ against Trump with seashell post

Former intelligence official’s seemingly innocuous post provokes MAGA outcry alleging it contains veiled threat against the president’s life
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The Trump Admin is full of unserious people. Blundering idiots who should never be in the positions they hold.
 
MT15 said:
I feel like this quote belongs here in this thread. Also, I hope there is a special place in one of the levels of Dante’s Inferno for people who defend this sociopath.

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This could be relevant in several threads.

Trumpism has its roots in the rise of Christian nationalism, as described in this excellent piece https://religioninpublic.blog/2025/...n-nationalism-and-the-anti-abortion-movement/, reveals a disturbing shift: away from the teachings of Jesus toward authoritarianism cloaked in faith. Jesus preached compassion, humility, and care for the vulnerable — not dominance, patriarchy, and state control. They’re not just misinterpreting Christianity — they’re twisting it into a tool for dominance and division. While political disagreement is part of any democracy, religion carries a unique weight. When ministers claim “the Bible says so,” it can override people's own sense of morality and compassion, even when their heart tells them otherwise.

This is the real danger: not just political manipulation, but spiritual manipulation. Faith — once a source of love, grace, and justice — is being corrupted to justify authoritarian control, misogyny, and exclusion. That’s not religion. That’s power dressed up as piety.
 
TampaJoe said:
How do you consistently apply a standard unless you are willing to draw a line somewhere? In order to claim independence as a CPA, I can’t own a single share of stock in a client. I had to sell an interest in an investment that I inherited from my father when I went to work for an international accounting firm. My office was in TN and the client was out of CO. I would never have worked on that engagement but the firms standard was zero.

As I said earlier, my wife couldn’t accept anything more than 25 dollars. In my current position, I can’t accept lunch from a customer or a vendor. Zero. So maybe the standard should be zero. Otherwise people will find ways to exploit it.
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There is 0 tolerance for regular people, but ultra wealthy and powerful people are never going to be totally innocent. We have always accepted low levels of corruption. The problem is Trump’s corruption is orders of magnitude greater, and it is threatening democracy.
 
Lapaz said:
There is 0 tolerance for regular people, but ultra wealthy and powerful people are never going to be totally innocent. We have always accepted low levels of corruption. The problem is Trump’s corruption is orders of magnitude greater, and it is threatening democracy.
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The reason it will never be zero is because we allow it in the first place. But to your point, how much corruption per leader is acceptable? So it isn’t zero, what should it be? If there is no line to toe, how do you enforce a standard that does not exist?

That is where we are.
 
TampaJoe said:
The reason it will never be zero is because we allow it in the first place. But to your point, how much corruption per leader is acceptable? So it isn’t zero, what should it be? If there is no line to toe, how do you enforce a standard that does not exist?

That is where we are.
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No that is not where you are. The laws need to be followed. Break the law and get procecuted.

If the laws are not strict enough - vote for people who wants better laws. Simple as that.

In Denmark every elected politician has to have a public page detailing every donation, and every investments - (stock etc...) as well as prior employment history. Even the prime minister. That is the LAW.
And public officials/employees are not allowed to recieve ANY gifts above a $10 value and even then only on special occations like 25th anniversary of employment and EVERY gift has to be reported for tax records.

But good luck getting that through the Maga republican congress and especially past Trump who seem to want payback for everything he does. Remember they defunded the IRS so that there would be no money to go after the real bad guys
 
Dragon said:
No that is not where you are. The laws need to be followed. Break the law and get procecuted.

If the laws are not strict enough - vote for people who wants better laws. Simple as that.

In Denmark every elected politician has to have a public page detailing every donation, and every investments - (stock etc...) as well as prior employment history. Even the prime minister. That is the LAW.
And public officials/employees are not allowed to recieve ANY gifts above a $10 value and even then only on special occations like 25th anniversary of employment and EVERY gift has to be reported for tax records.

But good luck getting that through the Maga republican congress and especially past Trump who seem to want payback for everything he does. Remember they defunded the IRS so that there would be no money to go after the real bad guys
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If it were that easy it would already have been done. That is where we are. Some politicians, a few, would welcome higher standards. But it isn’t a majority in either party. If they were it would already be done.

I asked you a hypothetical question re: Barron Trump. I’m interested in your thoughts if you care to answer. How would a similar situation be handled in Denmark? How would you recommend we handle such a situation in this country.
 
TampaJoe said:
If it were that easy it would already have been done. That is where we are. Some politicians, a few, would welcome higher standards. But it isn’t a majority in either party. If they were it would already be done.

I asked you a hypothetical question re: Barron Trump. I’m interested in your thoughts if you care to answer. How would a similar situation be handled in Denmark? How would you recommend we handle such a situation in this country.
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I have not seen your question
 
Dragon said:
I have not seen your question
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Dragon said:
Let me ask you a hypothetical question. Let’s say that Barron Trump took a job consulting for the government of Quatar. And the government of Quatar decided to pay him 2 million dollars? Does that constitute a conflict of interest for POTUS? Is it a violation of the emoluments clause? I mean are you going to argue that it’s okay because Barron has expenses and can’t be expected to work for free? Keep in mind Barron isn’t a government employee. Is what Barron doing illegal? Would you and other Democrats question this arrangement? Wouldn’t you and other Democrats question Trump’s foreign policy decision as they relate to Quatar? How much proof would you require to do something about it?

What if Quatar donated the plane to Barron?
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It would definitely depend on the scale. If Barron Trump were paid a salary within the range of his age, experience and education - as was Hunter actually done (I asume that that is what you are trying to argue - Hunter is a cooporate lawyer who has founded and succesfully led multiple companies - even before working for Burisma - and the salary he received was not out of range given that). Baron Trump is a young man who hasn't even completed the first year of college. BIG difference. If he was getting paid 2 million $ the pay would not reflect his actual worth - not even within a factor 1000 and if that was the son of the Danish PM it would definitely get the Danish police very interested in the case.

So the gotcha does not work in this comparison.
 
Dragon said:
It would definitely depend on the scale. If Barron Trump were paid a salary within the range of his age, experience and education - as was Hunter actually done (I asume that that is what you are trying to argue - Hunter is a cooporate lawyer who has founded and succesfully led multiple companies - even before working for Burisma - and the salary he received was not out of range given that). Baron Trump is a young man who hasn't even completed the first year of college. BIG difference. If he was getting paid 2 million $ the pay would not reflect his actual worth - not even within a factor 1000 and if that was the son of the Danish PM it would definitely get the Danish police very interested in the case.

So the gotcha does not work in this comparison.
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Okay. So if it were Donald Trump Jr, you would be okay with the arrangement? You wouldn’t question it?

And fyi, if I were a decision maker and my brother was a board member with a customer or a vendor or a competitor, I would have to recuse myself. It is a conflict of interest. It would cause everyone to question my decisions and whether my decisions were influenced or informed by his association with the other company.

Is it illegal? Not in this country. Could I be fired over it. Absolutely. Happens all the time.
 

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