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    Anxiety surges as Donald Trump may be indicted soon: Why 2024 is 'the final battle' and 'the big one'​


    WASHINGTON – It looks like American politics is entering a new age of anxiety, triggered by an unprecedented legal development: The potential indictment of a former president and current presidential candidate.

    Donald Trump's many legal problems – and calls for protests by his followers – have generated new fears of political violence and anxiety about the unknowable impact all this will have on the already-tense 2024 presidential election


    I’ll reframe this is a more accurate way, Are Presidents above the law? This new age was spurred into existence when home grown dummies elected a corrupt, mentally ill, anti-democratic, would be dictator as President and don’t bother to hold him responsible for his crimes, don’t want to because in the ensuing mayhem and destruction, they think they will be better off. The man is actually advocating violence (not the first time). And btw, screw democracy too. If this feeling spreads, we are In deep shirt.

    This goes beyond one treasonous Peice of work and out to all his minions. This is on you or should we be sympathetic to the idea of they can’t help being selfish suckers to the Nation’s detriment? Donald Trump is the single largest individual threat to our democracy and it‘s all going to boil down to will the majority of the GOP return to his embrace and start slinging his excrement to support him?
     
    You could try thinking of it as possibly being a totally BS twitter and bigsky story. Otherwise you are playing a game of telephone with folks online, and you are adding you own speculation to that BS.
    I made it clear in both of my posts that I didn't assume the information was accurate.

    If we all refrained from commenting on things posted here from social media, then none of us would be saying much of anything. It's odd to me that you choose to single out this issue as "playing a game of telephone with folks online" and me adding to the BS with my speculation.

    You have speculated on unconfirmed information and I don't recall anyone singling you out as playing telephone or adding to BS with your speculations.
     

    That youtube video doesn't help. Whenever I see YouTube with big yellow lettering on the splash screen I throw it out as a source because I have found they almost always are fake news if they go with the supper large screaming yellow text.

    I generally rate this Youtube source as being fake news. I looked up Midas Touch, this was the second video they posted 7 years ago, they've become more and more outlandish over time.

     
    I made it clear in both of my posts that I didn't assume the information was accurate.

    If we all refrained from commenting on things posted here from social media, then none of us would be saying much of anything. It's odd to me that you choose to single out this issue as "playing a game of telephone with folks online" and me adding to the BS with my speculation.

    You have speculated on unconfirmed information and I don't recall anyone singling you out as playing telephone or adding to BS with your speculations.
    Sure we all speculate. And I have been singled out in the past for doing so, and will be singled out in the future as well.

    You did add to it.

    When I see a fake story I say so. If I see three people here taking up a fake story and are playing telephone with it here , I say so.
     
    Sure we all speculate. And I have been singled out in the past for doing so, and will be singled out in the future as well.
    I have not singled you out, so there's that.

    You did add to it.
    I discussed it. I did not confirm it was happening. I only speculated on if it happened, why I thought it might be happening. That was clear.

    When I see a fake story I say so.
    It would be helpful if you posted current photos or videos of those areas that are objective proof it's fake. In the past, it has taken news outlets a few hours to confirm or deny these things. I can not at this time find a confirmation or denial regarding barricades.

    If I see three people here taking up a fake story and are playing telephone with it here , I say so.
    It's a fake story by you that I was playing telephone. It was clear in both my posts I wasn't assuming it was true and just wondering why it would be happening IF it were happening. I'm never surprised by the people who miss or ignore the word IF.

    I did misspeak in the first post when I wrote "What on earth is he about to do..." when I meant what would he do that for. So get the confusion on that post. However, in my second post you quoted to accuse me of "playing telephone," I very clear said "if it's accurate."
     
    That youtube video doesn't help. Whenever I see YouTube with big yellow lettering on the splash screen I throw it out as a source because I have found they almost always are fake news if they go with the supper large screaming yellow text.

    I generally rate this Youtube source as being fake news. I looked up Midas Touch, this was the second video they posted 7 years ago, they've become more and more outlandish over time.


    You should have looked up Meidas Touch. You want to make lite of their contributions based off a video they posted 9 years ago before they became MTN and ignore the credibility they have earned over the recent years since they started MeidasTouch in 2020. You, calling their efforts outlandish, shows that you know nothing of their work as MeidasTouch.

    The committee was founded in March 2020 by three brothers from Long Island while in quarantine due to the COVID-19 pandemic.[15][16] One of the brothers, Ben Meiselas, is an attorney who represented former NFL player Colin Kaepernick.[17][18][19] Another brother, Brett Meiselas, is an Emmy-winning video editor who worked for The Ellen DeGeneres Show.[20] The third brother, Jordan Meiselas, is a marketing supervisor living in Brooklyn, New York.[20]

    The group name and slogan come from their mother and father, combining their surname and their mother's maiden name, Golden,[16] alluding to the mythological Greek king Midas known for his ability to turn everything he touched into gold.

    On July 21, 2023, MeidasTouch filed paperwork to rename itself to Democracy Defense Action,[21] and later that year, news reporting indicated the MeidasTouch name was being used for a news network called MeidasTouch Network.[22][23]
    [2]
     
    You should have looked up Meidas Touch. You want to make lite of their contributions based off a video they posted 9 years ago before they became MTN and ignore the credibility they have earned over the recent years since they started MeidasTouch in 2020. You, calling their efforts outlandish, shows that you know nothing of their work as MeidasTouch.

    The committee was founded in March 2020 by three brothers from Long Island while in quarantine due to the COVID-19 pandemic.[15][16] One of the brothers, Ben Meiselas, is an attorney who represented former NFL player Colin Kaepernick.[17][18][19] Another brother, Brett Meiselas, is an Emmy-winning video editor who worked for The Ellen DeGeneres Show.[20] The third brother, Jordan Meiselas, is a marketing supervisor living in Brooklyn, New York.[20]

    The group name and slogan come from their mother and father, combining their surname and their mother's maiden name, Golden,[16] alluding to the mythological Greek king Midas known for his ability to turn everything he touched into gold.

    On July 21, 2023, MeidasTouch filed paperwork to rename itself to Democracy Defense Action,[21] and later that year, news reporting indicated the MeidasTouch name was being used for a news network called MeidasTouch Network.[22][23]
    [2]
    DJ, 7 years ago Midas Touch was more reputable in the past than they seem to be today. I do see people posting their stuff. I generally find their reports to breathless over the top hype. As a news source I consider them to be trash.

    I do make a single exception for someone who does use the screaming yellow text in their videos. It's Denys Davydov from Ukraine. He only uses screaming yellow text occasionally, with the subject matter being war sometimes a bit of yellow screaming isn't out of line.
     
    I have not singled you out, so there's that.


    I discussed it. I did not confirm it was happening. I only speculated on if it happened, why I thought it might be happening. That was clear.


    It would be helpful if you posted current photos or videos of those areas that are objective proof it's fake. In the past, it has taken news outlets a few hours to confirm or deny these things. I can not at this time find a confirmation or denial regarding barricades.


    It's a fake story by you that I was playing telephone. It was clear in both my posts I wasn't assuming it was true and just wondering why it would be happening IF it were happening. I'm never surprised by the people who miss or ignore the word IF.

    I did misspeak in the first post when I wrote "What on earth is he about to do..." when I meant what would he do that for. So get the confusion on that post. However, in my second post you quoted to accuse me of "playing telephone," I very clear said "if it's accurate."
    Quoted from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_game

    "Players form a line or circle, and the first player comes up with a message and whispers it to the ear of the second person in the line. The second player repeats the message to the third player, and so on. When the last player is reached, they announce the message they just heard, to the entire group. The first person then compares the original message with the final version. Although the objective is to pass around the message without it becoming garbled along the way, part of the enjoyment is that, regardless, this usually ends up happening. Errors typically accumulate in the retellings, so the statement announced by the last player differs significantly from that of the first player, usually with amusing or humorous effect. Reasons for changes include anxiousness or impatience, erroneous corrections, or the difficult-to-understand mechanism of whispering."

    "It is often invoked as a metaphor for cumulative error, especially the inaccuracies as rumours or gossip spread, or, more generally, for the unreliability of typical human recollection."

    "The telephone game has also been simulated using Large Language Models (LLMs). Research indicates that AI systems exhibit a similar phenomenon: information gradually distorts as it passes through a chain of LLMs. This occurs when the same content is continuously refined, paraphrased, or reprocessed, with each output becoming the input for the next iteration."
     
    DJ, 7 years ago Midas Touch was more reputable in the past than they seem to be today. I do see people posting their stuff. I generally find their reports to breathless over the top hype. As a news source I consider them to be trash.

    I do make a single exception for someone who does use the screaming yellow text in their videos. It's Denys Davydov from Ukraine. He only uses screaming yellow text occasionally, with the subject matter being war sometimes a bit of yellow screaming isn't out of line.
    Seven years ago, they did not exist. Again, I'm talking about MeidasTouch not Midas Touch (whatever that may be). MeidasTouch is one of the highest ranked media podcast in the country.
     
    I know how the telephone game works. I was taught it as a youth to illustrate miscommunication.

    Quoted from https://open.lib.umn.edu/goodreasoning/chapter/if-then-arguments/

    If–then arguments, also known as conditional arguments or hypothetical syllogisms, are the workhorses of deductive logic. They make up a loosely defined family of deductive arguments that have an if–then statement—that is, a conditional—as a premise. The conditional has the standard form If P then Q. The if portion, since it typically comes first, is called the antecedent; the then portion is called the consequent.
     
    Seven years ago, they did not exist. Again, I'm talking about MeidasTouch not Midas Touch (whatever that may be). MeidasTouch is one of the highest ranked media podcast in the country.
    Spellcheck wants to correct your usage of MidasTouch, it want's a space between the two words like I have. I found that seven year old video in the Midas Touch Youtube channel. Below I will post an 11 year old video from that same channel. Notice that is says it's a Midas Touch video, at the bottom of the video.

    I'm vaguely aware of that rating. Like I said I do see people sticking their videos into their posts. A rating of highest ranking podcasts would be more of a measure of viewership, popular appeal, than a rating of their news content.


    I will point out that Trump is one of social media's highest ranked user in the whole world. That rating doesn't say anything about his truthfulness.

     
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    Spellcheck wants to correct your usage of MidasTouch, it want's a space between the two words like I have. I found that seven year old video in the Midas Touch Youtube channel. Below I will post an 11 year old video from that same channel. Notice that is says it's a Midas Touch video, at the bottom of the video.

    I'm vaguely aware of that rating. Like I said I do see people sticking their videos into their posts. A rating of highest ranking podcasts would be more of a measure of viewership, popular appeal, than a rating of their news content.


    I will point out that Trump is one of social media's highest ranked user in the whole world. That rating doesn't say anything about his truthfulness.


    Whatever dude. Posting an 11 year old video from the YT page that was likely created by one of the brothers before they created MeidasTouch Network, doesn't prove your point. There are just THREE videos on that site that was posted before MTN, you've already posted 2 of them. You are aware that you could change the name of your YT page? It's likely that the "marketing" brother opted to continue using his old account, with his originals followers, when they formed MeidasTouch Network in the year 2020.


    The committee was founded in March 2020 by three brothers from Long Island while in quarantine due to the COVID-19 pandemic.[15][16] One of the brothers, Ben Meiselas, is an attorney who represented former NFL player Colin Kaepernick.[17][18][19] Another brother, Brett Meiselas, is an Emmy-winning video editor who worked for The Ellen DeGeneres Show.[20] The third brother, Jordan Meiselas, is a marketing supervisor living in Brooklyn, New York.[20]

    Executives and Contributors to MeidasTouch News and the MeidasTouch Network at large include but are not limited to:
    • Ron Filipkowski - Editor-in-Chief, Former Federal Prosecutor
    • Ben Meiselas - Co-founder of MeidasTouch, Owner of LA Magazine
    • Brett Meiselas - Co-founder of MeidasTouch
    • Jordy Meiselas - Co-founder of MeidasTouch
    • Karen Friedman Agnifilo - Former Chief Assistant District Attorney of the Manhattan District Attorney’s Office and CNN Analyst
    • Michael Popok - Renowned Trial Attorney and Executive Managing Partner of Zumpano Patricios & Popok
    • Kenneth Harbaugh - Senior Correspondent
    • Anthony Davis - Former BBC Broadcaster
    • Dina Sayegh Doll - Senior Legal Analyst
    • Harry Litman - Former Federal Prosecutor at the Department of Justice
    • Brian Karem - White House Reporter, Former CNN Correspondent
    • Denver Riggleman - Former U.S. Congressman and Intel Expert
    • Acyn Torabi - Researcher and Senior Digital Editor
    • Troy Matthews - Senior Writer
    • J.D. Wolf - Researcher
    • Francis Maxwell - International Correspondent
    • Dave Aronberg - Former Florida State Senator and Current State Attorney for Palm Beach County
    • Fred Wellman - Combat Veteran and former Executive Director of The Lincoln Project

     
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    Whatever dude. Posting an 11 year old video from the YT page that was likely created by one of the brothers before they created MeidasTouch Network, doesn't prove your point. There are just THREE videos on that site that was posted before MTN, you've already posted 2 of them. You are aware that you could change the name of your YT page? It's likely that the "marketing" brother opted to continue using his old account, with his originals followers, when they formed MeidasTouch Network in the year 2020.


    The committee was founded in March 2020 by three brothers from Long Island while in quarantine due to the COVID-19 pandemic.[15][16] One of the brothers, Ben Meiselas, is an attorney who represented former NFL player Colin Kaepernick.[17][18][19] Another brother, Brett Meiselas, is an Emmy-winning video editor who worked for The Ellen DeGeneres Show.[20] The third brother, Jordan Meiselas, is a marketing supervisor living in Brooklyn, New York.[20]

    Executives and Contributors to MeidasTouch News and the MeidasTouch Network at large include but are not limited to:
    • Ron Filipkowski - Editor-in-Chief, Former Federal Prosecutor
    • Ben Meiselas - Co-founder of MeidasTouch, Owner of LA Magazine
    • Brett Meiselas - Co-founder of MeidasTouch
    • Jordy Meiselas - Co-founder of MeidasTouch
    • Karen Friedman Agnifilo - Former Chief Assistant District Attorney of the Manhattan District Attorney’s Office and CNN Analyst
    • Michael Popok - Renowned Trial Attorney and Executive Managing Partner of Zumpano Patricios & Popok
    • Kenneth Harbaugh - Senior Correspondent
    • Anthony Davis - Former BBC Broadcaster
    • Dina Sayegh Doll - Senior Legal Analyst
    • Harry Litman - Former Federal Prosecutor at the Department of Justice
    • Brian Karem - White House Reporter, Former CNN Correspondent
    • Denver Riggleman - Former U.S. Congressman and Intel Expert
    • Acyn Torabi - Researcher and Senior Digital Editor
    • Troy Matthews - Senior Writer
    • J.D. Wolf - Researcher
    • Francis Maxwell - International Correspondent
    • Dave Aronberg - Former Florida State Senator and Current State Attorney for Palm Beach County
    • Fred Wellman - Combat Veteran and former Executive Director of The Lincoln Project

    I know Harry Litman from that list, I would listen to him for legal matters. The rest of them I don't know, or know of.
     
    I cannot find any reputable news outlets reporting on new barricades around the WH and the Treasury. The sources reporting it are The Hindustan Times, Teen Magazine, and Mathrubhumi English. There are also a Facebook post and a Tweet about it. I’m going to say it probably isn’t true.

    It’s a real shame we have to wade through rumors and speculation like this.

    here are my search results:

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    I cannot find any reputable news outlets reporting on new barricades around the WH and the Treasury. The sources reporting it are The Hindustan Times, Teen Magazine, and Mathrubhumi English. There are also a Facebook post and a Tweet about it. I’m going to say it probably isn’t true.

    It’s a real shame we have to wade through rumors and speculation like this.

    here are my search results:

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    And this isn’t the first time there was fake news about barricades a few years back as well. Took a drive to DC and it was business as usual last time. That it’s a repeat isn’t surprising.
     
    Donald Trump on Sunday threatened to cut New York City off from federal funds if favored mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani, a democratic socialist, “doesn’t behave himself” should he be elected.

    Mamdani, meanwhile, denied that he was – as the president said – a communist. But he reaffirmed his commitment to raise taxes on the wealthiest New Yorkers while saying: “I don’t think that we should have billionaires.”

    In an interview with Fox News host Maria Bartiromo, Trump argued that a Mamdani victory was “inconceivable” because he perceived the candidate to be “a pure communist”.


    He added: “Let’s say this – if he does get in, I’m going to be president, and he’s going to have to do the right thing, or they’re not getting any money. He’s got to do the right thing or they’re not getting any money.”

    More than $100bn flows to the city from the federal government through different entities and programs, according to the city’s comptroller last year.

    Speaking Sunday with NBC’s Meet the Press on Sunday, Mamdani said, “no, I am not” a communist.

    He also said that he had “already had to start to get used to the fact that the president will talk about how I look, how I sound, where I’m from, who I am – ultimately because he wants to distract from what I’m fighting for”.

    Mamdani said he was inspired by the US civil rights activist Martin Luther King Jr, who once remarked: “Call it democracy or call it democratic socialism. There has to be a better distribution of wealth for all of God’s children in this country.”……..

     
    Vice President J.D. Vance, who previously spread conspiracy theories about the Black Lives Matter movement, said Saturday that its leaders and supporters should celebrate President Donald Trump because he's "done more to save Black lives than any leader in our country."

    Trump has called Black Lives Matter a "symbol of hate" and called its supporters "thugs." In 2020, Trump deployed the National Guard on people in Washington, D.C. protesting the police murder of George Floyd. He also allegedly said of the protesters, "Can't you just shoot them?"

    Vance's idea came up in the context of the peace agreement between Rwanda and Democratic Republic of Congo, which was brokered by the U.S. and Qatar on Friday. "The peace treaty signing yesterday between the Democratic Republic of Congo and the Republic of Rwanda was truly historic," he wrote on Bluesky, where he is the most blocked account. "That war has killed more than any since World War 2, almost all of them black." (He seems to be thinking of the death toll of the Second Congo War, which ended in 2003. )

    He continued: "I'm sure the leaders and supporters of the black lives matter movement will join me in celebrating President Trump today, who has done more to save black lives than any leader in our country."

    He then tagged New York Times opinion columnist Jamelle Bouie. Bouie became a target of Trump and Vance when he wrote about Vance's "blood and soil nationalism," a Nazi slogan.

    The Trump administration helped facilitate the peace deal in order to gain access to minerals in the region. Congo is estimated to have minerals worth up to $24 trillion.

    "They were going at it for many years, and with machetes - it is one of the worst, one of the worst wars that anyone has ever seen. And I just happened to have somebody that was able to get it settled," Trump said Friday.

    "We're getting, for the United States, a lot of the mineral rights from the Congo as part of it. They're so honored to be here. They never thought they'd be coming."

    Congo is a source of key minerals including cobalt, copper, and coltan, as well as diamonds and gold. Last year, Congo filed criminal complaints in France and Belgium, accusing subsidiaries of Apple of using "blood minerals" in its products.

    "These activities have fuelled a cycle of violence and conflict by financing militias and terrorist groups and have contributed to forced child labour and environmental devastation," Congo's lawyers said in a statement.

    The Trump administration has significantly harmed Africa by shuttering the U.S. Agency for International Development and cutting more than 90 percent of its foreign aid contracts.

    In response to USAID cuts to efforts in Congo, anti-poverty organization Oxfam said in a statement, "The health of up to 1 million people could be at risk due to the impact of this decision on the work of humanitarian agencies in the DRC. We will be forced to cut vital clean water and sanitation services, increasing the risk of the spread of cholera, measles, and mpox."

    Trump's foreign aid cuts have gutted the President's Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief (PEPFAR), which has saved tens of millions of lives. According to a recent study, millions are expected to die as a result of these cuts in countries supported by PEPFAR, which include Congo.

    Vance previously peddled the conspiracy theory that insurance companies and Amazon founder Jeff Bezos supported Black Lives Matter because that enriched their businesses. In a 2021 piece in The American Mind called "Fighting Woke Capital," he explained that "woke capital is when companies and businesses are more invested in a movement like BLM than they are in traditional American principles, and they are."


    He claimed that insurance companies funded the Black Lives Matter movement, with the theory being that Black Lives Matter was damaging businesses and property and then the insurance companies would refuse to cover those claims. (It is unclear why this would be lucrative, if it was true at all.).................


    J.D. Vance Thinks Black Lives Matter Should ‘Celebrate' Trump


     

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