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    Anxiety surges as Donald Trump may be indicted soon: Why 2024 is 'the final battle' and 'the big one'​

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    Anxiety surges as Donald Trump may be indicted soon: Why 2024 is 'the final battle' and 'the big one'

    Donald Trump's many legal problems – and calls for protests – have generated new fears of political violence and anxiety about the 2024 election.
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    WASHINGTON – It looks like American politics is entering a new age of anxiety, triggered by an unprecedented legal development: The potential indictment of a former president and current presidential candidate.

    Donald Trump's many legal problems – and calls for protests by his followers – have generated new fears of political violence and anxiety about the unknowable impact all this will have on the already-tense 2024 presidential election

    I’ll reframe this is a more accurate way, Are Presidents above the law? This new age was spurred into existence when home grown dummies elected a corrupt, mentally ill, anti-democratic, would be dictator as President and don’t bother to hold him responsible for his crimes, don’t want to because in the ensuing mayhem and destruction, they think they will be better off. The man is actually advocating violence (not the first time). And btw, screw democracy too. If this feeling spreads, we are In deep shirt.

    This goes beyond one treasonous Peice of work and out to all his minions. This is on you or should we be sympathetic to the idea of they can’t help being selfish suckers to the Nation’s detriment? Donald Trump is the single largest individual threat to our democracy and it‘s all going to boil down to will the majority of the GOP return to his embrace and start slinging his excrement to support him?
     
    TampaJoe said:
    Is there a breach of law which can be proved in court? That is the standard around here. If so then the remedy is impeachment.
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    Yep.

    No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State. In this instance "The term emolument refers broadly to any profit, gain, or compensation"

    When Trump receives business deals for his company, while on an official trip as president and simultaneously with negotiating official US business. There is a clearly proven pattern

    On May 15, 2025, President Trump announced that India proposed a trade agreement eliminating tariffs on American goods.

    Simultaneously, Trump's business ventures in India were greenlighted, including plans for new real estate projects in major cities. The overlap between these business interests and trade negotiations has led to scrutiny regarding potential conflicts of interest.
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    In May 2025, President Trump embarked on a Middle East tour, promoting significant U.S. investments from Gulf nations. Concurrently, Trump org. secured Trump Organization deals in Saudi Arabia, Dubai, Qatar, and Oman. These included real estate projects such as Trump Tower Dubai and a luxury golf resort in Qatar. Additionally, a Trump-affiliated stablecoin was selected to back a $2 billion investment in Binance, potentially benefiting the Trump family financially.
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    Trump is an outlier and don't belive that he need to follow the law
    Other presidents has

    • Placed their investments in blind trusts to ensure they can't influence or benefit from financial decisions
    • Presidents are required to file detailed annual financial disclosures, but most go beyond the minimum legal requirements for transparency. Trump did not abide by this law
    • Past presidents either divested or refrained from engaging in private business activities while in office. Trump is still very much involved with his business and often makes personal business deals while abroad on US business

    But you knew all this already - and are just gaslighting. Funny how you are willing to spread any unsubstantiated rumor about Biden but almost demands a confession from Trump before accepting any kind of malferance by him.
     
    Dragon said:
    Yep.

    No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State. In this instance "The term emolument refers broadly to any profit, gain, or compensation"






    Trump is an outlier and don't belive that he need to follow the law
    Other presidents has

    • Placed their investments in blind trusts to ensure they can't influence or benefit from financial decisions
    • Presidents are required to file detailed annual financial disclosures, but most go beyond the minimum legal requirements for transparency. Trump did not abide by this law
    • Past presidents either divested or refrained from engaging in private business activities while in office. Trump is still very much involved with his business and often makes personal business deals while abroad on US business

    But you knew all this already - and are just gaslighting. Funny how you are willing to spread any unsubstantiated rumor about Biden but almost demands a confession from Trump before accepting any kind of malferance by him.
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    How exactly am I gaslighting? I said the remedy was impeachment. Is that true or false?
     
    TampaJoe said:
    The emoluments clause has never been enforced.
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    Funny choice of words here, "enforced". :ROFLMAO:

    Care to name an instance where Art.1 Sect.9 has been violated and not enforced? I know that there are several times where Congress has given approval for certain gifts, but I can only think of one person that Congress has failed to hold to account for their breach of oath.
     
    TampaJoe said:
    The emoluments clause has never been enforced. It carries no criminal penalties under the law. That said, a breach of the emoluments clause can be considered a high crime or misdemeanor under the Constitution for the purposes of impeachment.
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    So a law should never be enforced if no one had ever broken it before... Is that your logic? Trump is an outlier who believes he is above the law.

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    As it is clearly shown here
     
    TampaJoe said:
    I just stated a simple fact. Maybe it was over your head.
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    You never even answered the question. You wanted to know what laws Trump broke and your only answer is "it has never been enforced" - even though Trump is the only one who has broken it. Well - you are skating around like a dog on ice and keep finding new ways to avoid dealing with facts.
     
    Dragon said:
    You never even answered the question. You wanted to know what laws Trump broke and your only answer is "it has never been enforced" - even though Trump is the only one who has broken it. Well - you are skating around like a dog on ice and keep finding new ways to avoid dealing with facts.
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    Reread my answer. Slowly. You must have missed the part where I said quite clearly it could be considered a high crime and misdemeanor for purposes of impeachment. What part did you not understand.
     
    TampaJoe said:
    Reread my answer. Slowly. You must have missed the part where I said quite clearly it could be considered a high crime and misdemeanor for purposes of impeachment. What part did you not understand.
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    Asking for payback by public servants when making deals involving government decisions or contracts is corruption and criminal and against the law as well as unconstitutional. And several high ranking government officials are convicted of that every year. Since corruption is not a part of an official job description for a president he should not be afforded immunity. That said I have very little faith in this administration given the profound level of corruption done by some members of the SC
     
    TampaJoe said:
    Gifts or benefits. They can be direct or indirect.

    You brother the doctor. Owns his own business. That’s different and you obviously know it. You can’t take a hard hat. Public servants don’t own their own business. They have a fiduciary responsibility to those they serve. If you don’t understand the difference, I can’t help you.
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    Hunter Biden was not a public official when this happened, and nobody has offered anything remotely close to proof that Joe Biden took any gift or benefit.

    On the other hand, Trump is doing so openly, and you keep trying to equate it to situations that don't even compare because no US President in history has come close to. It's not even apples to oranges. It's apples to a raw sewage treatment plant.
     
    Dragon said:
    Asking for payback by public servants when making deals involving government decisions or contracts is corruption and criminal and against the law as well as unconstitutional. And several high ranking government officials are convicted of that every year. Since corruption is not a part of an official job description for a president he should not be afforded immunity. That said I have very little faith in this administration given the profound level of corruption done by some members of the SC
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    Okay. I won’t disagree. I think the SC will handle itself appropriately.
     
    cuddlemonkey said:
    Hunter Biden was not a public official when this happened, and nobody has offered anything remotely close to proof that Joe Biden took any gift or benefit.

    On the other hand, Trump is doing so openly, and you keep trying to equate it to situations that don't even compare because no US President in history has come close to. It's not even apples to oranges. It's apples to a raw sewage treatment plant.
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    I haven’t equated anything. If the standard is illegality then that is what it is.
     

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