Law Enforcement Reform Thread (1 Viewer)

[First Time Poster]

So I got busy the other day with the intention to revisit this topic and answer some of the responses put forward but I realized the thread was deleted. But, I felt we had good dialogue happening before I left so I wanted to restart the topic to get the conversation going again. We started some dialogue about it on the liberal board but I feel this topic transcends party lines so I'm making a MCB thread. Post #2, or my next post, is the post I made on the liberal board when asked to elaborate how I felt.

 

[Taurus]

They have always been at war with Eastasia - or whatever the equivalent would be

Psst...it rhymes with 'flack people'

 

[zztop]

Remember the uproar from republicans when the "defund the police" stuff was going on?

House Republicans Announce Budget Cuts To F.B.I. A.T.F. and D.O.J. Congress is expected later this week to take up and approve a package of six spending bill…

Congress is expected later this week to take up and approve a package of six spending bills to fund half the government through the fall, after months of bit…

www.isidewith.com

Speaker Mike Johnson:

"We also advanced cuts to some of the agencies that have been turned against the American people. We are going to cut 3% from DOJ, 7% from the ATF, 6% from the FBI, and 10% from the EPA."

 

[Taurus]

Remember the uproar from republicans when the "defund the police" stuff was going on?

House Republicans Announce Budget Cuts To F.B.I. A.T.F. and D.O.J. Congress is expected later this week to take up and approve a package of six spending bill…

Congress is expected later this week to take up and approve a package of six spending bills to fund half the government through the fall, after months of bit…

www.isidewith.com

Speaker Mike Johnson:

"We also advanced cuts to some of the agencies that have been turned against the American people. We are going to cut 3% from DOJ, 7% from the ATF, 6% from the FBI, and 10% from the EPA."

Who do these Q-nuts think is going to arrest the baby-eating lizard people?

It's not going to be Sheriff Bubba

 

[bird]

Remember the uproar from republicans when the "defund the police" stuff was going on?

House Republicans Announce Budget Cuts To F.B.I. A.T.F. and D.O.J. Congress is expected later this week to take up and approve a package of six spending bill…

Congress is expected later this week to take up and approve a package of six spending bills to fund half the government through the fall, after months of bit…

www.isidewith.com

Speaker Mike Johnson:

"We also advanced cuts to some of the agencies that have been turned against the American people. We are going to cut 3% from DOJ, 7% from the ATF, 6% from the FBI, and 10% from the EPA."

“Have been turned against the American people”? Flock Mike Johnson. He is a dangerous, worthless piece of schlitz.

 

[fooferdoggie]

Who do these Q-nuts think is going to arrest the baby-eating lizard people?

It's not going to be Sheriff Bubba

yep Or but those pedo groups in the basements of pizza shops. man so much yporitc thignsin this. all for trump nothing for the actual Americans. Mike is so far up trumps arse he knows what he ate 5 minutes after trump ate it.

 

[Farb]

Remember the uproar from republicans when the "defund the police" stuff was going on?

House Republicans Announce Budget Cuts To F.B.I. A.T.F. and D.O.J. Congress is expected later this week to take up and approve a package of six spending bill…

Congress is expected later this week to take up and approve a package of six spending bills to fund half the government through the fall, after months of bit…

www.isidewith.com

Speaker Mike Johnson:

"We also advanced cuts to some of the agencies that have been turned against the American people. We are going to cut 3% from DOJ, 7% from the ATF, 6% from the FBI, and 10% from the EPA."

One is Federal and one is local. MCAB is a fair description in this situation.

 

[Farb]

https://www.foxnews.com/us/suspects...er-jonathan-diller-identified-lengthy-records
The suspected shooter, 34-year-old Guy Rivera, has at least four prior arrests, according to the source.

The driver of the vehicle, 41-year-old Lindy Jones, has at least 12 prior arrests. His last arrest was in April 2023 for a loaded firearm, the NYPD source told Fox News.

"Less than a year gun charge," New York City Mayor Eric Adams said at a press conference. "He's back on the streets. April 2023. This is what you call not a crime problem, a recidivist problem. Same bad people doing bad things to good people. Less than a year, he's back on the streets with another gun."

With the new alt-left push of bail reform what is the magic number to actually keep a career criminal in jail so he/she doesn't pose a threat to to the society?

Not entirely sure what the answer is but I can guess this is not it.

 

[coldseat]

https://www.foxnews.com/us/suspects...er-jonathan-diller-identified-lengthy-records
The suspected shooter, 34-year-old Guy Rivera, has at least four prior arrests, according to the source.

The driver of the vehicle, 41-year-old Lindy Jones, has at least 12 prior arrests. His last arrest was in April 2023 for a loaded firearm, the NYPD source told Fox News.

"Less than a year gun charge," New York City Mayor Eric Adams said at a press conference. "He's back on the streets. April 2023. This is what you call not a crime problem, a recidivist problem. Same bad people doing bad things to good people. Less than a year, he's back on the streets with another gun."

With the new alt-left push of bail reform what is the magic number to actually keep a career criminal in jail so he/she doesn't pose a threat to to the society?

Not entirely sure what the answer is but I can guess this is not it.

Bail reform? Was he out on bail when he allegedly committed that crime?

 

[Optimus Prime]

Take a step back for a second. Basically you are saying that black Americans are either lying, are stupid or are criminals themselves. I know that isn't what you probably meant, but that is the net effect. Take a random sample of black Americans (particularly black men), and ask them if they believe they've ever been unfairly targeted by police. And then take a random sample of white Americans and ask them if they've ever been unfairly targeted by police. How do you think that will turn out?

 

[superchuck500]

 

[Optimus Prime]

After George Floyd’s murder by a Minneapolis police officer in 2020, protesters who swarmed the streets across the US shouted the refrain: “Defund the police.”

An idea that was once viewed as radical – to redirect money from law enforcement to other city departments and social services – became a rallying cry overnight.

As a result of continued pressure, dozens of jurisdictions throughout the nation promised to reduce their police budgets. While most of them backtracked and increased law enforcement funding in the next year or two, several cities changed policies or added new public safety and homeless services departments.

Milwaukee is one city where leaders diverted money to social programs that had a lasting impact: funding from the police department went toward affordable housing and youth programming.

After 2020 Seattle invested part of its police funding into participatory budgeting, a process in which the public votes on how to spend a portion of the city’s finances.

A few years later, inspired by calls for alternatives to policing from Black and brown organizers, Seattle leaders launched a third public safety department that responds to mental health crises.

And Austin has increasingly invested more money in its homeless services since the city diverted millions of dollars from the 2021 police budget to go toward permanent supportive housing instead.

Political organizers the Guardian spoke to said the abolitionist dream of divesting from police and reinvesting in social services is a long journey full of valleys. Backlash followed the 2020 protests, and public sentiment toward the movement quickly shifted.

According to a recent Pew Research Center survey, 27% of respondents said greater attention to racial inequality in the US improved Black people’s lives, compared with 52% who said it would lead to positive changes in 2020.

Though the success stories of the defund movement are not always clear, the groups behind it say they helped move the needle forward in sparking conversations about city priorities and reimagining what public safety looks like.

They hope the Trump administration’s commitment to capital punishment and increasing law enforcement will inspire people to again envision alternatives to policing.

“If spending money on policing were an effective way to deter crime, then the United States would be the safest country on the planet that has ever existed and it is nowhere near that,” said Marcus Board, an associate professor of political science at Howard University. “Meanwhile, healthcare suffers, childcare suffers, elder care suffers, public spaces are going away.”

Instead of recognizing that people need a social safety net, he said, society punishes people for their hardships as if it’s the key to transformation. But the punishment also robs people of their agency.

“That’s a world that will constantly suffer unless people step up to do something,” Board said, “which is why it’s so important to remember the movement for Black lives”.

In the spring of 2019, Devin Anderson was tabling on police reform in Metcalfe Park in Milwaukee when an older Black woman approached him.

Anderson, the campaign and membership director of the non-profit African American Roundtable, showed her a pie chart that revealed that 46% of the city’s general fund went toward the police department.

Shocked by the figure, the woman told Anderson that she wanted to see more money spent on opportunities for youth, as she feared that boredom would drive her grandson to get into trouble that summer.

“That is a politicizing moment. Even if people do believe in police and policing, they don’t think it should be getting that much money,” Anderson said.

“On a larger scale, what does it mean as a society when close to 50% of the money we spend has to go to police and policing, and it can’t go to make real investments into things that people want to see?”………

Critics say the movement to defund the police failed. But Austin and Seattle are seeing progress

The rallying cry from 2020 Black Lives Matter protests pushed some US cities to divert money towards housing and community services

www.theguardian.com