Law be damned, Trump asserts unilateral control over executive branch, federal service (2 Viewers)

[superchuck500]

Following the Project 2025 playbook, in the last week, Trump and his newly installed loyalists have moved to (1) dismiss federal officials deemed unreliable to do his bidding (including 17 inspectors general) - many of which have protections from arbitrary dismissal, (2) freeze all science and public health activity until he can wrest full control, (3) freeze all federal assistance and grant activity deemed inconsistent with Trump's agenda, and (4) moved to terminate all federal employee telework and DEI programs.

The problem is much of this is controlled by federal law and not subject to sudden and complete change by the president through executive order. Most notably is the Impoundment Control Act of 1974 that simply codifies what is the constitutional allocation of resources where Congress appropriates money to the executive branch for a specific purpose, the executive branch must carry out that statutory purpose. This is indeed a constitutional crisis and even if Congress abdicates to Trump by acquiescing, the courts must still apply the law - or rule it unconstitutional.

And meanwhile the architect of much of this unlawful action is Russell Vought, Trump’s OMB nominee who the Senate appears ready to confirm.

120. The Impoundment Crisis of 2025

The Trump administration's Monday spending freeze is likely to provoke a crisis over the constitutionality of "impoundment"—one that the justices could well have to resolve *very* soon.

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[DJ1BigTymer]

And yet, Tim Scott and Byron Donalds continue to kiss arse.

That's because they know that the only "black job" in this government has been filled.

Scott Turner, HUD Secretary | HUD.gov / U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD)

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[Sendai]

So Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Chief of Naval Operations, Air Force Vice Chief of Staff, and the Army, Navy, and Air Force JAGs were all appointed by Democratic Presidents.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

So Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Chief of Naval Operations, Air Force Vice Chief of Staff, and the Army, Navy, and Air Force JAGs were all appointed by Democratic Presidents.

What is your point??? The US Armed Services are apolitical!

BTW, Gen Brown was appointed Air Force Chief of Staff by, wait for it..........................................................................................TRUMP!

So, he was good enough to be on the JCoS but not its chairman and this 3 star guard guy, that has never held a command is more than qualified. Raizen Caine is going to have a hard time trying to convince his new peers that he has anything to offer them. They bring more to the table that he can even fathom. They know this to be true and so does he.

 

[Sendai]

What is your point??? The US Armed Services are apolitical!

BTW, Gen Brown was appointed Air Force Chief of Staff by, wait for it..........................................................................................TRUMP!

So, he was good enough to be on the JCoS but not its chairman and this 3 star guard guy, that has never held a command is more than qualified. Raizen Caine is going to have a hard time trying to convince his new peers that he has anything to offer them. They bring more to the table that he can even fathom. They know this to be true and so does he.

That they are getting rid of Democratic appointees.

 

[RobF]

That they are getting rid of Democratic appointees.

Two questions then: One, is it your contention that they're getting rid of these appointees solely because they were appointed under a democratic president?

Two: how far back do you think we have to go to find, let's say, a Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, being replaced within, ooh let's be really generous and say, sixth months of an inauguration?

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

That they are getting rid of Democratic appointees.

Joint Chiefs are not a political position, their job is to advise POTUS, SECDEF on military matters and they have ZERO operational authorities. As I pointed out earlier, Gen Brown was appointed to JCS by Trump, Biden promoted him to Chairman.

THE MILITARY IS NOT POLITICAL...well, it wasn't supposed to be, but I guess that changed when a National Guardsman chose to don a MAGA hat in uniform.

4.1.2. A member of the Armed Forces on active duty shall not: 4.1.2.1. Participate in partisan political fundraising activities (except as permitted in subparagraph 4.1.1.7.), rallies, conventions (including making speeches in the course thereof),management of campaigns, or debates, either on one’s own behalf or on that of another, without respect to uniform or inference or appearance of official sponsorship, approval, or endorsement. Participation includes more than mere attendance as a spectator. (See subparagraph 4.1.1.9.)
4.1.5. Activities not expressly prohibited may be contrary to the spirit and intent of this Directive. Any activity that may be reasonably viewed as directly or indirectly associating the Department of Defense or the Department of Homeland Security (in the case of the Coast Guard)or any component of these Departments with a partisan political activity or is otherwise contrary to the spirit and intention of this Directive shall be avoided.

4.6.4. This is a lawful general regulation. Violations of paragraphs 4.1. through 4.5. of this Directive by persons subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice are punishable under Article 92, “Failure to Obey Order or Regulation,” Chapter 47 of Reference (b).

https://www.esd.whs.mil/Portals/54/Documents/DD/issuances/dodd/134410p.pdf

MERIT!!!

 

[Sendai]

Two questions then: One, is it your contention that they're getting rid of these appointees solely because they were appointed under a democratic president?

Two: how far back do you think we have to go to find, let's say, a Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, being replaced within, ooh let's be really generous and say, sixth months of an inauguration?

Sure seems like it.

I don’t know.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

Sure seems like it.

I don’t know.

Sure you do. You just don't care that Republicans have politized our Armed Forces.

 

[bird]

Are we becoming a military state?

On the verge but, likely yes. MAGA does not care until it impacts them directly.

I look for checkpoints at every road that crosses state borders as well as at the Southern and Northern borders.

 

[DaveXA]

That they are getting rid of Democratic appointees.

And it's a crock of sheet. This doesn't really have any precedent that I'm aware of.

 

[DaveXA]

Joint Chiefs are not a political position, their job is to advise POTUS, SECDEF on military matters and they have ZERO operational authorities. As I pointed out earlier, Gen Brown was appointed to JCS by Trump, Biden promoted him to Chairman.

THE MILITARY IS NOT POLITICAL...well, it wasn't supposed to be, but I guess that changed when a National Guardsman chose to don a MAGA hat in uniform.

4.1.2. A member of the Armed Forces on active duty shall not: 4.1.2.1. Participate in partisan political fundraising activities (except as permitted in subparagraph 4.1.1.7.), rallies, conventions (including making speeches in the course thereof),management of campaigns, or debates, either on one’s own behalf or on that of another, without respect to uniform or inference or appearance of official sponsorship, approval, or endorsement. Participation includes more than mere attendance as a spectator. (See subparagraph 4.1.1.9.)
4.1.5. Activities not expressly prohibited may be contrary to the spirit and intent of this Directive. Any activity that may be reasonably viewed as directly or indirectly associating the Department of Defense or the Department of Homeland Security (in the case of the Coast Guard)or any component of these Departments with a partisan political activity or is otherwise contrary to the spirit and intention of this Directive shall be avoided.

4.6.4. This is a lawful general regulation. Violations of paragraphs 4.1. through 4.5. of this Directive by persons subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice are punishable under Article 92, “Failure to Obey Order or Regulation,” Chapter 47 of Reference (b).

https://www.esd.whs.mil/Portals/54/Documents/DD/issuances/dodd/134410p.pdf

MERIT!!!

Not actually unprecedented. If I recall correctly, during Trump’s first term he waved a Bible outside a church near the WH and there was a General who later admitted he regretted being there because it compromised his being apolitical.

 

[MT15]

So Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Chief of Naval Operations, Air Force Vice Chief of Staff, and the Army, Navy, and Air Force JAGs were all appointed by Democratic Presidents.

Boy you are just fine with Trump politicizing everything aren’t you? What a sell out you are of your country.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

Not actually unprecedented. If I recall correctly, during Trump’s first term he waved a Bible outside a church near the WH and there was a General who later admitted he regretted being there because it compromised his being apolitical.

It was Gen Miley and he didn't just regret that action, he issued a public statement and an apology after that happened because he knew it to be against DoD regulations.

"As many of you saw, the result of the photograph of me at Lafayette Square last week, that sparked a national debate about the role of the military in civil society," Milley said in a prerecorded address at a commencement ceremony at the National Defense University in Washington. "I should not have been there. My presence in that moment, and in that environment, created a perception of the military involved in domestic politics."


"As a commissioned, uniformed officer, it was a mistake that I have learned from, and I sincerely hope we all can learn from it," he continued. "We who wear the cloth of our nation come from the people of our nation. And we must hold dear the principle of an apolitical military that is so deeply rooted in the very essence of our Republic. And this is not easy. It takes time and work and effort. But it may be the most important thing each and every one of us does every single day."

 

[DaveXA]

It was Gen Miley and he didn't just regret that action, he issued a public statement and an apology after that happened because he knew it to be against DoD regulations.

Yep, that's the one.

 

[bird]

It was Gen Miley and he didn't just regret that action, he issued a public statement and an apology after that happened because he knew it to be against DoD regulations.

In contrast to the piece of schlitz Michael Flynn.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

Are we becoming a military state?

I'd like to believe that there are some military leaders that are truly weighing whether or not to continue to serve these clowns..